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Iowa Rejects Video Privacy Protection For Cows

Hugh Pickens writes "The Seattle Post Intelligencer reports that an effort to outlaw the undercover recording of animal abuse in livestock operations appears to have stalled in Iowa after previously failing in Minnesota, Florida and New York, with the pushback coming from citizens and activists complaining that the proposals were aimed at protecting an industry that doesn't exhibit enough concern for farm animal welfare. A bill introduced earlier this year to criminalize the actions of activists who make unauthorized hidden videos of animal abuse appeared to be headed for approval in the Iowa Legislature, with proposed penalties including fines of up to $7,500 and up to five years in prison. 'I feel it is wrong to absolutely lie to get a job to try to defame the employer,' says Iowa representative Annette Sweeney, a farmer and Republican legislator who sponsored the bill. But District Attorney James R. Horton, who filed animal cruelty charges against employees and the owner of a large-scale calf-raising farm, says he probably 'wouldn't have a case' if not for covert video provided by an animal protection group, and that 'we wouldn't have anything' in terms of evidence against the suspects in the beating deaths of dairy calves at E6 Cattle Co."

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  1. Bad logic again from a representative... by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the company is adhering to the rules of the law, they wouldn't have to worry about being defamed by people who lied to be hired and then made covert video tapes.

    What about THAT side of the argument, Annette Sweeney, farmer and Republican legislator?

    1. Re:Bad logic again from a representative... by Ironchew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So... if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear?

      Exactly. Corporations are not entitled to privacy. Rather, they know the regulations; they should damn well obey them.

    2. Re:Bad logic again from a representative... by xero314 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Corporations are not entitled to privacy.

      This would be true, but in the USA corporations are people and therefor have all the same rights as people, but not all the same morals and ethics.

    3. Re:Bad logic again from a representative... by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In one case they got caught, having failed to edit out their own participation from the film presented as "evidence of abuse" in court.

      ... says a guy on the Internet, without bothering to cite any names, dates or facts that can be checked. This wanker is modded up to "5 informative". Idiots everywhere.

      Clue: if this had really happened, there would be no problem prosecuting the fakers. They'd already be in jail. So name them. Or is this just something you saw on some blog and are passing on after embroidering it a little more?

  2. Re:Uh... by ccabanne · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In my humble opinion, as humans, if we have an opportunity to raise food in a humane way, we should strive to do it.

  3. Some american tell me by unity100 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    why is it that always republicans are behind the gravest, dastardliest shit, and they are behind less dastardly shit with a democrat close to their aisle ?

    a while ago, i heard that mccain and 30 other republican senators opposed a bill which would prevent companies from putting clauses into their contracts that would prevent female employees from suing the company if they were raped in company's employ overseas by company employees. that included john mccain, the presidential candidate. the justification was 'we think it is wrong to tell businesses how to do business'. so, its ok if a company legislates rape in its overseas operations by putting a clause in its contracts ?

    what the fuck is wrong with republicans ?

    1. Re:Some american tell me by joggle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, they're simply business-first, everything else second (including rape...).

    2. Re:Some american tell me by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      why is it that always republicans are behind the gravest, dastardliest shit, and they are behind less dastardly shit with a democrat close to their aisle ?

      a while ago, i heard that mccain and 30 other republican senators opposed a bill which would prevent companies from putting clauses into their contracts that would prevent female employees from suing the company if they were raped in company's employ overseas by company employees. that included john mccain, the presidential candidate. the justification was 'we think it is wrong to tell businesses how to do business'. so, its ok if a company legislates rape in its overseas operations by putting a clause in its contracts ?

      what the fuck is wrong with republicans ?

      Simple. They like gang rape. They are opposed to abortions.

      You work it out.

    3. Re:Some american tell me by guspasho · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When it comes down to stopping rape or protecting business, those guys chose business. That shows you how sociopathic they are.

    4. Re:Some american tell me by s73v3r · · Score: 5, Interesting

      a while ago, i heard that mccain and 30 other republican senators opposed a bill which would prevent companies from putting clauses into their contracts that would prevent female employees from suing the company if they were raped in company's employ overseas by company employees. that included john mccain, the presidential candidate. the justification was 'we think it is wrong to tell businesses how to do business'. so, its ok if a company legislates rape in its overseas operations by putting a clause in its contracts ?

      It wasn't even a regulation. It was just a restriction placed on government agencies saying that they couldn't spend money on contractors who did this. It wasn't stopping the contractors from actually doing it if they really wanted to, it was just the government "voting with its wallet" that they didn't want to support companies that did.

    5. Re:Some american tell me by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      why is it that always republicans are behind the gravest, dastardliest shit, and they are behind less dastardly shit with a democrat close to their aisle ?

      Democrats do some dastardly shit too. It depends a little on what you consider dastardly I guess. Some of my (sigh) inlaws would undoubtedly find this silly at worst, but will find the John Edwards (Democrat) affair to be the worst thing ever. Which one affects more people? The current abomination if it passes. Which one can those simpletons understand? The douche cheating on his dying wife. Which one will they complain about over christmas dinner? The democrat.

      Note to self, stock up on alchohol this Christmas...

      As far as why it seems republicans are always behind shit like this, that's confirmation bias. Misusing the law to benefit corporations happens on both sides of the aisle (democrats aren't sworn enemies of the RIAA or MPAA). As someone who is more sympathetic to democrats, you naturally find ways of writing it off as one bad egg, or not that bad when you hear about Democrats doing it, wheras when a republican does it, it's "Oh those fucking republicans!"

      I'm a democrat, and sometimes find myself doing that too.

      It's important to keep in mind, there's a clear difference between republicans and republican politicians. Republicans are nice people generally(except the ones that are going to go on and on and on about how society is going to hell because one politician cheated on his dying wife). I might find them a bit naive, and disagree with what they value more, but I know plenty of republicans, and they all are as opposed to rape as I would expect any sane person to be (wouldn't put it past one or two of my inlaws to blame the victim though).

      Republican politicians though are evil, but maybe only a little bit more than democrat politicians. Their constituents might be less concerned with the rights of individuals, and might pay more attention to their politicians' personal lives. I think in many cases that makes republican politicians more likely to sell out public interests in favor of corporate interests, like the case here.

      The short answer is "because 1. they're not and 2. they have different values than you."

    6. Re:Some american tell me by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, it is a willing agreement between people. Then again, the power distribution between an individual and a multinational corporation is not exactly symmetric, particularly in an economy with today's unemployment rates. I think one of the sides might need a tad bit more protection than the other here.

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  4. Re:Only in the US... by s73v3r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because God forbid their customers actually know what conditions the animals were kept in prior to slaughter.

  5. Ok to video farmers... by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 3, Interesting

    but not cops? Why can we gather evidence of animal abuse by videoing farmers, but we cannot gather evidence of human abuse by law enforcement?

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    Two of my imaginary friends reproduced once ... with negative results.
  6. Re:Uh... by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He doesn't have to define humane - it's already defined into law. A law that livestock operators know well, and are responsible for obeying.

    And in this case it wasn't healthy, pampered cows being slaughtered for food, it was a bunch of sick, frostbitten, starved calves that had been so poorly cared for, they were bludgeoned to death and dumped. I think only a psychopath would not agree that behavior is inhumane and unacceptable.

  7. and in florida by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a law was proposed which would make it illegal to film or photograph a farm as well.
    The problem is customers have grown to appreciate the warm wool pulled over their eyes that depicts farms as wholesome, good, and kindhearted.
    A place where animals die of natural causes and everyone attends church on sundays.
    The average consumer doesnt understand high density/high intensity farming and agriculture and when prompted, generally does not care to learn about it.
    the educated consumer understands high density/high intensity farming and agriculture, but still readily retreats to his Pepperidge farm fantasy.
    The facts stand and yet we ignore them in the pursuit of ever larger quarter pounders and ever more delicious ribs.
    A factory farm is a hell mouth, strewn with feces six-inches deep and animals literally one foot in the grave.
    chickens are too bloated from hormones to stand, cows too drugged to care about the gaping abscess that was once an eye,
    pigs boiled alive in pursuit of shaving seconds from a cycle time on a machine
    and immigrant labor too illegal to question a single action or decision for fear of losing their american dream.

    once in a while, just every so often, an undercover PETA investigation might bring light to these torture engines.
    workers may find comfort in this as a means to perhaps ending the suffering they witness daily but even with this bills defeat, the fact remains:
    consumers blissfully ignorant will fill in the blanks and avoid the truth;
    effectively marching lockstep in the corporate machine of factory farming.

    and if you dont care to know where your brisket or tenderloin or chicken nugget comes from, you have no right to contest your cancer, low sperm count, obesity and heart disease.

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    Good people go to bed earlier.