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Researchers Design Memory-Strengthening Implant

Antipater writes "Researchers at Wake Forest University have created a brain implant that can imitate signals through the hippocampus, the part of the brain responsible for memory retention. Rats implanted with the device were able to remember information even after their hippocampus was shut down, reports the New York Times. Though still in its infancy, this technology could hopefully be used to help treat dementia or stroke victims."

72 comments

  1. Repeat after me... by erroneus · · Score: 2

    ...Borg!

    1. Re:Repeat after me... by stormen81 · · Score: 0

      I was thinking more of a Cyborg. :)

    2. Re:Repeat after me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah and that's why you get laid and the parent doesn't.

    3. Re:Repeat after me... by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Neither of them does. The cyborg, however...

    4. Re:Repeat after me... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Borg borg borg...
      (sung to the tune of the Swedish Chef muppet)

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  2. As long as I can delete stuff too by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Memory is good to have, and it'd be fun to remember all sorts of things instead of having to look them up, but with Internet shock pictures, I want an option to delete stuff from memory too.

    Also, is it possible to transplant this device from one rat to another, and give it fake memories? Maybe the way to see is let a rat solve a maze several times over, and then hook it up to another mouse and let it go. If that is the case, put WIFI on it, and let Rats have a communal memory bank too.

    1. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > put WIFI on it, and let Rats have a communal memory bank too.

      This is how the world ends.

    2. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by immakiku · · Score: 1

      And eventually we wouldn't need to spend a quarter of our life times in school.

    3. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And eventually we wouldn't need to spend a quarter of our life times in school.

      If we could do that, would children like this ever exist again?

      http://www.hulu.com/watch/219297/tedtalks-adora-svitak-what-adults-can-learn-from-kids

    4. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by CrazyDuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are differences between memory, experience, wisdom, indoctrination, and conditioning. I "know" how to drive a stick shift. I have never actually driven a stick shift. I am fairly certain that should I ever actually get stuck in a situation where I have to drive a stick without practicing first, I should upload the results to fAil Blog.

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    5. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by layer3switch · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I know Kung Fu."

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      "Don't let fools fool you. They are the clever ones."
    6. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Depending upon your standards and tolerance for repairing the damage, driving stick isn't hard. You can always restrict yourself to first gear and barely have to worry about shifting. The tough thing is that you probably don't want to have to buy several new transmissions as you perfect your skills. Motorcycle transmissions OTOH are a lot more forgiving as they're designed so that you ride the clutch frequently.

    7. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by geekoid · · Score: 1

      good move. That way you have no memory and get to experience the shock again.

      10 Girls and one cup? Sure I'll take a look.
      20 Horror
      30 Delete
      40 Goto 10

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    8. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Kozz · · Score: 1

      You are a naive fool. Internet shock pictures lose any power over you in seconds, unless you are such a backwards thinking individual that you cannot rationalize them. SOME PEOPLE LIKE SPREADING THEIR ASSHOLES WITH GIANT DILDOS THEN SHOWING THEM TO A CAMERA. Get over it.

      If that's the extent of your shock-picture experience, I can assure you there are far, far worse. Just keep browsing slashdot at -1 and eventually you'll see all of them.

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    9. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by NoSig · · Score: 1

      Far worse than the goatsx? Pics or it didn't happen!

    10. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in the UK, automatic transmission is pretty rare. It is certainly very unusual for someone to learn to drive in one, as they would then be unable (and, indeed, unlicensed) to drive the vast majority of vehicles. It might make learning to drive more difficult, but you almost certainly won't wreck your transmission (let along several) whilst learning. Generally, using the wrong gear results in a stall, and messing up a gear change will result in a bit of wear and tear on the clutch and a bumpy ride.

      As for driving everywhere in first gear: Perhaps US cars are geared differently, but that wouldn't work well over here, where top speed of an average car in first is usually around 30mph (or 40 if you want to red line your engine, and shout to your passengers over the sound of it tearing itself apart). It is extremely uncommon for a journey not to include stretches of road with speed limits higher than 40 miles per hour, so dawdling along in first the whole way is likely to result in some strange looks, at best.

    11. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the same over here - the poster you responded to has probably never driven stick (anything other than a motorcycle, at least.)

    12. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Pain_series

      That should keep you busy for a while.

    13. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by crow5599 · · Score: 1

      If that is the case, put WIFI on it, and let Rats have a communal memory bank too.

      So long, concept of personal identity. I always figured robots would be the ones to have a shared identity. It never occurred to me humans might too.

    14. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Where is here? Here in the US automatics are more common than stick by a large margin and have been for 20yrs. Unless you are traveling between cities you won't have to use anything but local streets with speed limits approaching but not passing 40mph.

    15. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Several new transmissions?!

      First (and most pedantically), rebuilt transmissions FTW.

      Second, maybe passenger car and/or late-model transmissions are different, but me and my 3 siblings learned to drive in the same old truck, and although we went through about a clutch apiece, it was still running the same tranny at the end. The syncro on 2nd was a bit dodgy by that point, but even considering it worthless at that point, that's 0.25 transmissions per driver, not "several". (Not towing package or anything, just the 3-speed that came standard in a '84 C-10.)

      I can't imagine how bad a learner one would have to be to wreck multiple transmissions.

    16. Re:As long as I can delete stuff too by Thiez · · Score: 1

      That wasn't shocking.

  3. IN this highly competitive World. .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll want one to get an edge over everyone else. And I'll keep getting upgrades.

    Then we'll need laws to allow poor people to afford these implants so they can be competitive too. Of course the rich will have the best ones and get their kids some when they're toddlers to beat the middle class kids in school.

  4. Real world test milestone by bobdotorg · · Score: 1

    Can it enable me to remember where the hell I put my sunglasses?

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    1. Re:Real world test milestone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YEEEAAAAAHHH!

    2. Re:Real world test milestone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you checked on your head? That's usually where they are when people lose them.

    3. Re:Real world test milestone by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Only if you remember first where you put your memory.

    4. Re:Real world test milestone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes! Everytime! That means you try and remember putting them down and recall over 100 times putting them on the dash, 200 times setting them on your desk, 50 times setting them on a table by the pool, 300 times putting them in your pocket, and finally the one time you put them on top of the car and drove off.

    5. Re:Real world test milestone by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Can it help you say something witty before putting on your sunglasses?

      YAAAAAAHHHHHH!

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  5. I have the perfect use for this! by m.shenhav · · Score: 1

    ...but I forgot it...

  6. Finally it begins. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ShadowRun or Borg. One of those will be our future. Somehow.
    I like both.

    (yup, I wouldn't mind being a Borg drone)

  7. as Johnny Mnemonic would say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hit me"

    This is the first man/machine implant technology I'd actually consider going for.. assuming it'd be eventually released for general use as an "add-on"

    1. Re:as Johnny Mnemonic would say by hedwards · · Score: 1

      I need to watch that, I've heard it's not good, but the effects looked kind of cool.

    2. Re:as Johnny Mnemonic would say by IonOtter · · Score: 1

      Seeing Keanu Reeves scream to the world, "I! WANT! ROOM SERVICE!" makes it all worth it.

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      [End Of Line]
    3. Re:as Johnny Mnemonic would say by cduffy · · Score: 1

      My impression is thus:

      If you haven't read much Gibson, then it's a mismash of half-baked ideas without the development and focus to carry it through.

      If you're a Gibson fan, by contrast, the context from the books/stories/etc make the movie make a good deal of sense, and thereby into a moderately fun flick.

  8. Great by bhcompy · · Score: 1

    Now all I need is 25 million ISK

    1. Re:Great by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      I would use my mod points, but I forgot where I put them. Darn it!

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      Life is not for the lazy.
    2. Re:Great by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It's only 2000 caps from the Followers of the Apocalypse.

    3. Re:Great by tibman · · Score: 1

      phew, that's a pricey memory implant. I'd start with +1's to make sure all is well first

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  9. Maybe now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Terry Pratchett shouldn't kill himself? The problem with making health judgments at this point in history is that there are these kinds of technologies in the near, albeit indeterminate future.

    1. Re:Maybe now... by Ricwot · · Score: 1

      He's clearly going downhill. He had a friend give his lecture on assisted suicide, and his books aren't what they used to be. Still better than I could write, but a day is coming when he won't be himself. If he wants to die before he has to face every day trapped in a mind that is no longer him, or wants to wait until he's gone and then can't do it himself, I see no reason that someone shouldn't help him.
      In the UK suicide is the only act which is legal alone, but not with assistance.

  10. Hippocampus grades for production, not retention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm a neuroscientist so I have to interject regarding an inaccuracy.

    The hippocampus is critical for generating declarative, conscious memory but not for retaining it. Long-term "storage" falls under the purview of parietal cortex, which as a system of neurons generally is involved with associations draw between sensory stimuli and the organism. You can teach a rat to spatially navigate to a platform to get out of a small pool (because rats hate being soaked), get them up to criterion, and then bilaterally ablate hippocampus. The rat will show a slight performance hit, but can still perform the task. However, if you move the platform elsewhere, they're now at chance.

    In the context of adding DIMM to your hippocampus, you'll be able to generate new declarative memories more effectively. How well someone retains that information depends on the degree of efficacy in sending memories from hippocampus to parietal cortex.

  11. Misread it as... by ark1 · · Score: 1

    "Researchers Design Mammary-Strengthening Implant" Unfortunately my brain can only make one association with the word Implant.

  12. Rats! by ISoldat53 · · Score: 1

    Great but what could a rat know that's worth remembering?

    1. Re:Rats! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky?

    2. Re:Rats! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I think so, Brain, but I can't memorize a whole opera in Yiddish

  13. Shut it Down by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

    ...researchers used a drug to shut down the activity of CA1. Without CA1 online, the rats could not remember which lever to push to get water.

    Weed. It was weed wasn't it?

    1. Re:Shut it Down by fragfoo · · Score: 1

      ...researchers used a drug to shut down the activity of CA1. Without CA1 online, the rats could not remember which lever to push to get water.

      Weed. It was weed wasn't it?

      They can't remember what was it.

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      Sig? Heil
  14. Your Kindle was just obsoleted. by blair1q · · Score: 1

    Hope you didn't sink too much money into books in e-reader form.

    Because you're just going to buy them again in e-recaller form.

  15. Too much memory? by itsenrique · · Score: 2

    I once read an anecdote about a person who could not forget to the point that it basically drove them insane. Having vivid memory of happy or otherwise useful experiences seems great to me, but imagine being unable to forget gritty details as well. You see some especially disturbing violence for example, and you are more likely to experience a cluster of symptoms known as PTSD. Imagine cues that trigger sad thoughts about a loss (death, breakup, etc) always triggering a full on PTSD-style reliving of the event. As I understand, we "forget", or are unable to access a lot of things we "remember". Would a constantly juiced hippocampus dispose you splitting, compartmentalization, and other phenomenon related to "detachment" from psychological stress? Certainly good science, and I can see a huge potential benefit, on the other hand, something like this really opens up a can of worms.

    1. Re:Too much memory? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      but imagine being unable to forget gritty details as well.

      For people that just don't care, that wouldn't matter (as in, people that aren't easily saddened or angered or people that don't feel emotions). I'd like to remember everything ("bad" things included).

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    2. Re:Too much memory? by hedwards · · Score: 3, Interesting

      PTSD is more about being unable to leave the memories, pretty much anything you spend that much time thinking about is going to stick. If you repeated think about a specific page out of the phonebook over and over and over again all day long, you'll store that information indefinitely. It's not likely to be of any use, but if you concentrate on in long enough for enough iterations that will be with you permanently.

      It's probably more closely related to the problems of schizophrenia, one of the hypothesis surrounding it is that it's caused by hyperlearning and an eidetic memory. I'm not sure ultimately what the verdict will be when all is said and done, but if you look at the symptoms, it wouldn't be surprising. Folks that are overwhelmed by information overload tend to have trouble sorting and assembling information in meaningful ways.

    3. Re:Too much memory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you repeated think about a specific page out of the phonebook over and over and over again all day long, you'll store that information indefinitely. It's not likely to be of any use, but if you concentrate on in long enough for enough iterations that will be with you permanently

      Oh man - how excited are you going to be the one day that it actually DOES come in to use...

  16. Good! My Scientology Brain Implant, Which Is Evil, by brilanon · · Score: 1

    forced me to take plasticized Dextromethorphan cough syrup ("Delsym") for fourteen days until I had a left frontal lobe hemorrhage!! AND... now my working memory is devastated! This is an even better development than the noise-cancelling implant I thought I'd need to make the first one go away. It could undo some of the damage!

    No-one listened to me! I complained about my scientology head chip for eight months before that happened! Now my brain hemorrhage is eight months old and allll of you let this happen! Oh, oh, ohhhhh....

    Not fake, OK? Thanks :D

  17. And what information do they remember? by Slicebo · · Score: 1

    "My hippocampus hurts!"

  18. Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? by JohnRoss1968 · · Score: 1

    "I think so, Brain, but where are we going to find a duck and a hose at this hour?"
    "I think so, but where will we find an open tattoo parlor at this time of night?"
    "Wuh, I think so, Brain, but if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels."
    "Uh... yeah, Brain, but where are we going to find rubber pants our size?"
    "Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a career ... ooh, it's all too much for me."
    "Wuh, I think so, Brain, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?"
    "Wuh, I think so, Brain, but burlap chafes me so."
    "Sure, Brain, but how are we going to find chaps our size?"
    "Uh, I think so, Brain, but we'll never get a monkey to use dental floss."
    "Are you pondering cheesesticks?"
    "Uh, I think so Brain, but this time, you wear the tutu."
    "I think so, Brain, but culottes have a tendency to ride up so."
    "I think so, Brain, but if we covered the world in salad dressing wouldn't the aspargus feel left out?"
    "I think so, Brain, but if they called them 'Sad Meals', kids wouldn't buy them!"
    "I think so, Brain, but me and Pippi Longstocking -- I mean, what would the children look like?"
    "I think so, Brain, but what would Pippi Longstocking look like with her hair straight?"
    "I think so, Brain, but this time you put the trousers on the chimp."
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but I can't memorize a whole opera in Yiddish."
    "I think so, Brain, but there's still a bug stuck in here from last time."
    "Uh, I think so, Brain, but I get all clammy inside the tent."
    "I think so, Brain, but I don't think Kaye Ballard's in the union."
    "Yes, I am!"
    "I think so, Brain, but, the Rockettes? I mean, it's mostly girls, isn't it?"
    "I think so, Brain, but pants with horizontal stripes make me look chubby."
    "Well, I think so -POIT- but where do you stick the feather and call it macaroni?"
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but pantyhose are so uncomfortable in the summertime."
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but it's a miracle that this one grew back."
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but first you'd have to take that whole bridge apart, wouldn't you?"
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but 'apply North Pole' to what?"
    "I think so, Brain, but 'Snowball for Windows'?"
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but snort no, no, it's too stupid!"
    "Umm, I think so, Don Cerebro, but, umm, why would Sophia Loren do a musical?"
    "Umm, I think so, Brain, but what if the chicken won't wear the nylons?"
    "I think so, Brain, but isn't that why they invented tube socks?"
    "Well, I think so Brain, but what if we stick to the seat covers?"
    "I think so Brain, but if you replace the 'P' with an 'O', my name would be Oinky, wouldn't it?"
    "Oooh, I think so Brain, but I think I'd rather eat the Macarena."
    "Well, I think so hiccup, but Kevin Costner with an English accent?"
    "I think so, Brain, but don't you need a swimming pool to play Marco Polo?"
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but do I really need two tongues?"
    "I think so, Brain, but we're already naked."
    Brain: We eat the box?
    "Well, I think so, Brain, but if Jimmy cracks corn, and no one cares, why does he keep doing it?"
    "I think so, Brain NARF, but don't camels spit a lot?"
    "I think so, Brain, but how will we get a pair of Abe Vigoda's pants?"
    "I think so, Brain, but Pete Rose? I mean, can we trust him?"
    "I think so, Brain, but why would Peter Bogdanovich?"
    "I think so, Brain, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"
    "I think so, Brain, but if we get Sam Spade, we'll never have any puppies."
    "I think so, Larry, and um, Brain, but how can we get seven dwarves to shave their legs?"
    "I think so, Brain, but calling it pu-pu platter? Huh, what were they thinking?"
    "I think so, Brain, but how will we get the Spice Girls into the paella?"
    "I think so, Brain, but if we give peas a chance, won't the lima beans feel left out?"
    "I think so, Brain, but I am running for mayor of Donkeytown and Tuesdays are booked." From an early Kids' WB intro.
    "I think so, Brain, but if we had a sno

  19. But Still by brilanon · · Score: 1

    To be clear, I'm glad this new thing exists.

  20. Singularity by SixDimensionalArray · · Score: 1

    Did anybody else read this and think of the singularity? I sure did.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

    SixD

    1. Re:Singularity by hexagonc · · Score: 1

      I sure did. But I was thinking more in terms of transhumanism and brain uploading, which isn't mentioned in the wikipedia article (perhaps, I should edit it). One of the key requirements for brain uploading is functionalism, and I think the original New York Times article presents evidence that this is possible. It shows that when one brain region communicates with another, all it cares about are gross inputs and outputs. Thus, if you replace one brain region with a computer that can produce the same outputs, the other one doesn't care. If you could gradually replace all important modules of the brain with software/hardware that is functionally equivalent, then you would be essentially uploading someone's brain. You don't need the biology at all, just the functions. Demonstrating that this works for memory is important since memory is one of the key components of consciousness. This is in stark contrast to the Penrose-types that believe that there are some spooky quantum mechanical effects that are essential to the human mind.

  21. Rodent overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hook that device up to the internet over wireless for real fun.

  22. Great... by jameslong06 · · Score: 1

    I have to have a stroke to get one of these?

  23. Re:Hippocampus grades for production, not retentio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, not quite. The hippocampus is more like a "hashtable". It stores the "indexices" into various parts of the brain, such as the parietal cortex, and certainly has a large role in retaining it. Systematic consolidation is certainly responsible for longer term memory in the range of years past initial formation, but by then it has also lost a lot of the fidelity.

  24. There's an app for that by giorgist · · Score: 1

    That is what I use my Android phone for. I have post-it notes under the term buy, movie , song and so more. When I come across something I would like to remember ... I just plug it in ...

  25. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dementia? Can I enlist my ex?

  26. Oh, no, marriage is gonna suck now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, no! Now men won't be able to forget what was on the grocery list, directions to anywhere, and their wedding anniversaries! What is the world coming to? We are going to remember everything was our fault, too. Write your congressman!

  27. Re:Hippocampus grades for production, not retentio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so you think faster, but you may not learn more?

  28. Awesome by SheridanR · · Score: 1

    I can remember where I put my wallet with this.

  29. F**king incredible?!?! by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

    This blows my mind. A good thing an implant can fix that.

  30. Wikipedia Implant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me know when I can get an encylcopedic implant please. I'll be first in line.