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Teen Builds Nuclear Bomb Detector

DaneM writes "An enterprising teenage boy named Taylor Wilson, 17, has created a homemade, hand-held nuclear bomb detector. It utilizes a small fusion reactor that he made when he was 14, and detects nuclear materials by shooting neutrons at closed containers and exciting any nuclear materials inside — which, in turn, causes more radiation to be produced, and is detected by the device. This may provide a simpler, more effective alternative to searching containers visually, one-at-a-time. No information is given about how safe such a practice is. Taylor also has some choice things to say about how science is, in fact, very cool."

210 comments

  1. A small fusion reactor by starfishsystems · · Score: 4, Funny

    Must be nice to have your own portable fusion reactor.

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    1. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Necessity is the mother of invention. What if you need a portable neutron source and your local mad scientist supply shop doesn't stock any? You take a small detour to build a small fusion reactor and then get on with the project, of course!

    2. Re:A small fusion reactor by Lord+Lode · · Score: 1

      I wonder how much power it generates.

    3. Re:A small fusion reactor by icebraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Less than it consumes.

    4. Re:A small fusion reactor by operator_error · · Score: 1

      Yeah, talk about your buried lead! The kid has fusion going for him, egads! TFA says he did the fusion thing 3 years ago, but is otherwise mute on the details. I'm no nuclear physicist, so I had to google to make certain my own understanding of nuclear fusion was in the ballpark.

      http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/032399sci-cold-fusion.html

      Wait until Nature reads about this development at Gizomodo.com; they're gonna be pissed!

    5. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Seriously, people. Click all the way through to his actual article. Gods of Kobol--this is slashdot! Do it for Science!

      Not cold fusion. Not Science Fiction. Certainly not as exciting as it sounds.
      His fusion reactor:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farnsworth_fusor

    6. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next thing you know he'll be busting ghosts.

    7. Re:A small fusion reactor by SEE · · Score: 4, Informative

      I assure you, the people at Nature already know about the Farnsworthâ"Hirsch fusor.

    8. Re:A small fusion reactor by rwise2112 · · Score: 0

      Mr. Fusion?

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    9. Re:A small fusion reactor by Yvanhoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fusion reactor is within reach of a hobbyist. It consumes energy but produces fusion. It is not a power generator.

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    10. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd love to read it but all I see when I click the screen is the Gizmodo logo and a blank white page.

    11. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, that's Philo Farnsworth and not Hubert J. Farnsworth.

    12. Re:A small fusion reactor by cvtan · · Score: 1

      Your RequestPolicy Firefox plugin is blocking it.

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    13. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We even have Fusion CPUs now!
      Oh, wait...

    14. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hobbiests have been doing fusion for years. There's nothing new or exciting here. It might be exciting for you because you didn't know. Most of us who read Nature did.

    15. Re:A small fusion reactor by Idbar · · Score: 1

      Can you explain again, where in the airports are these detectors are going top be used? I can clearly see this can be helpful to the TSA... To get more budget again next year.

    16. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So to be hobbier, do you need to have more hobbies, or focus on one hobby? Does building a fusion reactor from scratch make you the hobbiest guy in the world by itself, or do you also have to build aircraft carriers in bottles and wrestle alligators while skydiving?

    17. Re:A small fusion reactor by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      its still cool that a kid that age has the interest to experiment at that level. Curiosity like this by youth is slowly being killed off, from several sources.

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    18. Re:A small fusion reactor by Ptolom · · Score: 1

      I don't know, it still looks pretty exciting to me.

    19. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Now if I only had a finglonger....

    20. Re:A small fusion reactor by PPH · · Score: 1

      When he turns 16, his parents will buy the DeLorean for him.

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    21. Re:A small fusion reactor by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Fusion reactor is within reach of a hobbyist. It consumes energy but produces fusion. It is not a power generator.

      Johnny! Are you running that damned Farmaninmal or whatever Fusion thing again! I'm trying to dry my hair!

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    22. Re:A small fusion reactor by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      Note the word "cold" in your URL. It's cold fusion we can't do -- hot fusion's perfectly normal stuff.

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    23. Re:A small fusion reactor by sjames · · Score: 1

      I imagine it's a fusor. A fine source of neutrons, but it consumes more power than it generates.

    24. Re:A small fusion reactor by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      Maybe someday more -- is the eCat a scam or is it real? We may know soon...
          http://pesn.com/2011/06/17/9501849_Defkalion_Announces_Energy_Catalyzer_Press_Conference/
      "By now, most people following exotic energy breakthroughs have read about Andrea Rossi's E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) cold fusion technology. It utilizes nickel powder, hydrogen gas, an undisclosed catalyst, heat, and pressure to produce large amounts of energy. The technology is capable of producing over 4 kilowatts of thermal power from a reactor vessel only fifty cubic centimeters in volume (about he size of your fist). Cold fusion research has been ongoing for two decades, and there have been thousands of successful experiments. However, Andrea Rossi's technology is the most promising cold fusion technology yet to emerge.
          Andrea Rossi's company Leonardo Corporation has licensed the technology to the Greek company Defkalion Green Technologies Inc., with sole purpose to sell, license, and manufacture industrialized commercially applicable products using the Andrea Rossi Energy Catalyzer with global exclusivity rights; except the Americas. Defkalion has recently sent out invitations to certain individuals to attend a press conference about the technology on June 23, 2011. The invitation is self explanatory, and is posted below."

      Too bad the economic development of this is so conventional; alternatives:
          http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Economic_Transformation

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    25. Re:A small fusion reactor by GrayNimic · · Score: 1

      The distinction is, this is a fusion reactor used to generate neutrons, not to be an electricity generator. It's the latter part that's such a difficult challenge.

    26. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would be more worried about this device detonating the devices it is supposed to detect...

    27. Re:A small fusion reactor by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

      Or rather, you build a Fusor. We are perfectly capable of building fusion reactors, despite what seems to be the prevailing opinion here on slashdot. They're just not Q>1 (in fact they're mostly Q = 1/10000000 or so).

      These reactors are the cheapest and easiest neutron source we know, and they come with a knob do select the speed of the produced neutrons. But neutron radiation is hardly ever used for detection or measurement of anything that has to do with living things. It's activating radiation : a large number of materials, most notably water, will transform into radioactive materials when hit with neutrons.

      Activation properties are the excuse green nuts use to oppose nuclear fusion reactors (nuts, because the environmental impact of a fusion reactor is much less than the environmental impact of solar or wind power, both in absolute values, and embarrassingly less when measured on a per-kWh basis).

      Though, of course, the industry has again made the terminal mistake : treat the "concerns" of green nuts as pseudo-serious and research neutron-free fusion reactions.

    28. Re:A small fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1.21Gw...

  2. Did he test it? by leuk_he · · Score: 0

    Did it work, or did it explode the bomb?

    1. Re:Did he test it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, it didn't detect any bombs, but there weren't any, so it has a 100% chance of getting the answer right when there are no bombs around.

    2. Re:Did he test it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

    3. Re:Did he test it? by ewanm89 · · Score: 1

      Luckily one technically needs to make the uranium/plutonium a critical mass to actually produce a chain fusion reaction, this is usually done by explosives that compact it when the bomb is triggered. Still, I'm a little worried about the nasty effects it could have it it does find a bomb, fundamentally this is we'll attempt to trigger a reaction and see if it does react. This means if I say, had a tungsten reflector sphere with a small hole in it and enough mass, we would a supercriticallity event when they try to test it this way (aka, boom).

    4. Re:Did he test it? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      You'd have to pass a radiation scanner first.

  3. Skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice to know that he used a "fusion reactor he built when he was 14". Just goes to show projects like ITER are a waste of time. We should let 14 year olds deign our nuclear plants. Sarcasm aside, i'm slightly skeptical about this claim. I rank it's crdibility somewhere between Fleishmann and Pons, that is.

    1. Re:Skeptical by MrQuacker · · Score: 1

      No, this is proof that anyone can make a fusion reaction. But nobody has yet to make a reactor that produces more power than it consumes.

    2. Re:Skeptical by NalosLayor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Tabletop fusion reactors have existed since the 1950s - created by Philo T. Farnsworth (who invented television as we know it, and who is paid homage to by futurama). They have never been (and likely never will be) able to produce more energy than it takes to fuse the atoms, thus making them impractical as a fusion *power plant* but a "reactor" nevertheless, and a practical source of free neutrons for research purposes, and projects like this.

    3. Re:Skeptical by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      but a "reactor" nevertheless, and a practical source of free neutrons for research purposes, and projects like this.

      Are the neutrons free as in speech, or free as in beer?

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    4. Re:Skeptical by mr_mischief · · Score: 2

      Free as in cats.

  4. unsafe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is plainly unsafe. uranium atom + neutron = barium + krypton + 200mev energy + 3 neutrons

  5. Neutron Activation Analysis by Unsichtbarer_Mensch · · Score: 1, Informative

    So this dude 'reinvented' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_activation_analysis and solved the problem of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion.Ra-ha-ight.... Yet if we just assume that he uses a regular neutron source like Californium 252 - so no breakthroughs in fusion physics are involved- it would still be interesting to see how he processes the data from the detectors. Maybe that's where the innovation lies.

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    1. Re:Neutron Activation Analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair the original says "built" not "invented". No contest on the fusion aspect though...

    2. Re:Neutron Activation Analysis by Captain+Segfault · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fusors are a standard neutron source, and they're fairly straightforward to build.

      The idea that you could throw hydrogen ions at each other with enough energy to fuse is fairly obvious. It turns out that the obvious ways of doing so are orders of magnitude short of generating net power, but they do generate neutrons.

    3. Re:Neutron Activation Analysis by semi-extrinsic · · Score: 1

      The interesting part would be the detection, yes. If it just detects "radiation/no radiation" it won't tell the difference between aluminum and uranium...

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    4. Re:Neutron activation analysis by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      I bet that wasn't built by a high school student.

    5. Re:Neutron Activation Analysis by Memnos · · Score: 1

      He did use a Farnsworth-Hirsch fusor to actively interrogate for special nuclear material, causing a subcritical fission reaction. This produces radiation of higher energies than are normally emitted by enriched u-235 (HEU) or weapons-grade plutonium (WGPu) or are significantly present in the background, but it is nothing new technologically. For detection, he is using another technique that is not new, but is perhaps novel in its application. He is using both a Thallium doped Sodium Iodide scintillation detector and a Cherenkov Water Detector doped with Gadolinium Chloride (in concert with photomultiplier tubes) to detect the Gamma radiation that is produced by any fission events that would be induced in HEU or WGPu (respectively) by active interrogation. This method has the benefit of high sensitivity AND high specifity. It is also more cost-effective than current passive methods, since it uses more commonly available materials (no He-3) and proven technologies. Currently the setup exceeds the amount of time allowed by DHS for a scan, but is useful to confirm or rule out initial tests. It is also being improved upon.

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    6. Re:Neutron Activation Analysis by Memnos · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I meant to say he's detecting the neutrons produced by fission as they move faster than light does in the detector medium, not gamma rays.

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  6. A fusion reactor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    lol?!

    1. Re:A fusion reactor? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Building a fusion reactor ain't so hard. At least as long as you do not care about power input and output.

      What science currently has troubles with is to create a fusion reactor with a net surplus of energy after the fusion. That's the thing that's hard. To harness the energy created by nuclear fusion in such a way that the chain reaction can remain stable (i.e. is at the very least self sustaining) is the holy grail of cold fusion power. Not getting atoms to fuse.

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  7. Get with it people ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He used his *time machine* to make the nuclear fission reactor. Geez, some people are so cynical !

    1. Re:Get with it people ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if he has a time machine then he doesn't need a detector now does he? He just waits for a bomb to go off and then goes back in time and points out where it is. Done and Done.

  8. nobel physics prize is sewed up by decaffeinated · · Score: 2

    Built his own fusion reactor...excellent...and also figured out a way to make sure that the resulting neutron flux doesn't turn his carcass into a smouldering ash heap. Bonus.

    1. Re:nobel physics prize is sewed up by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      and also figured out a way to make sure that the resulting neutron flux doesn't turn his carcass into a smouldering ash heap

      From TFS:

      No information is given about how safe such a practice is.

      So yeah...no.

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  9. The linked site by Noughmad · · Score: 0

    Of course, "Made on a Mac". I mean, where else can one find a reality distortion field strong enough to make a portable fusion reactor?

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    1. Re:The linked site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you feel stupid now you've read the other comments? :-)

    2. Re:The linked site by Noughmad · · Score: 1

      No, I feel corrected and (now) informed. I also feel surprised that as a physics student I've never heard of such a thing.

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    3. Re:The linked site by budgenator · · Score: 1

      The size of the distortion field depends more on how you define portable, than it does on how you define fusion reactor. There some hefty high voltage power supplies needed, an electrolysis unit to generate D2 gas from you heavy water and of course shielding, so I's guess it's more along the line of in a pickup truck portable rather than in you hip holster portable.

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  10. Another David Hahn in the making? by Fish+(David+Trout) · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:Another David Hahn in the making? by arogier · · Score: 1

      We'll find out if he gets enough radiation poisoning to look like a meth addict while he's knocking off people's smoke detectors.

    2. Re:Another David Hahn in the making? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      David Hahn's run in for the theft of apartment smoke detectors occurred 12 years after his famous (or infamous) incident. The sores depicted are not CRS related, but rather typical of heavy use of sympathomimetics. He looks like an amphetamine addict in the photo because he was an amphetamine addict, or didn't the geniuses at Wikipedia bother to delve that deep?

  11. DHS here by atari2600a · · Score: 1

    Why don't you have a seat...

  12. Back to the Future? by otaku244 · · Score: 1

    "It utilizes a small fusion reactor that he made when he was 14" (sic)
    OK, great job kid. I just have one problem...
    So after a quick rifle through my movie collection I recall a certain Doctor with DeLorean was powered by questionable amounts of radioactive plutonium in a home-made reactor. He had to trifle with a rowdy band of Libyans to get his material.
    So who did you trick and to I need to be worried?

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    1. Re:Back to the Future? by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Plutonium is used in fission reactor, not fusion.

    2. Re:Back to the Future? by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just read the article and related links?

    3. Re:Back to the Future? by Zawash · · Score: 1

      No, no - this is the more advanced version of the reactor in the car, the one at the end of the film - this is the Mr. Fusion version. Come on - a fission reactor is so last millenium!

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    4. Re:Back to the Future? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The fission reactor is used to power the fusion one.

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    5. Re:Back to the Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you explain what (sic) means and what prompted you to use it?

    6. Re:Back to the Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now hold hands and make peace.

  13. How very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This boy is clearly a genius with unlimited potential. How extraordinarily sad that he is applying all that potential to something as fucking idiotic as counter-terrorism.

    Sigh.

    1. Re:How very sad by srussia · · Score: 4, Funny

      This boy is clearly a genius with unlimited potential. How extraordinarily sad that he is applying all that potential to something as fucking idiotic as counter-terrorism.

      Well, there's not much potential use for a fusor in investment banking, so I guess counter-terrorism is where the money is.

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    2. Re:How very sad by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Relax. He could be even more useless and study BA or law and become the next manager or lawyer to not even be useless but actually a burden on society.

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    3. Re:How very sad by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Well, there's not much potential use for a fusor in investment banking

      If we brainstorm a little we might come up with something. It's worth a try...

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    4. Re:How very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Grow up, not all counter-terrorism is TEH EVIL. This is the kind of tech that could be genuinely useful, non-invasive, does not infringe privacy or personal liberty, and could save lives rather than being security theatre. It could also have uses beyond counter-terrorism.

  14. timothy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm worried that timothy might not be able to tell the difference between reality and comic books.

  15. Stop crapping up my RSS feed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why isn't there some sort of editorial filter between submission and front page?

  16. It's so cool by ikarys · · Score: 0

    "But the thing is, science is cool, and me and my friends who do science are cooler than the people who don't. I have to end this interview now as Mum needs to cut my hair."

  17. Reality check by pnot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As someone pointed out: building a fusion reactor, while not trivial, is routinely done by tinkerers worldwide: see e.g. this Instructables guide .

    No, the truly amazing thing here is what I found when I clicked through to the original story (as usual, not linked in the summary):

    ... here in Reno, we have the University of Nevada-Reno, and I went to the physics department. They offered to give me a bunch of parts, and after I got fusion, they offered to give me my own lab here to work in. So that was very helpful.

    Allow me to be the first to say, WHAT THE YELLOW RUBBERY FUCK? In every university department I've ever had experience of, researchers and grad students fight tooth and nail to get funding for anything more expensive than an alligator clip. Meanwhile, these guys have sufficient resources to start handing out equipment and lab space to enterprising teenagers for science fair projects! Hmm, time to start looking for a postdoc position there, I think...

    1. Re:Reality check by artor3 · · Score: 1

      His own lab? Please tell me they didn't let a little kid in the lab unattended. Undergrads are bad enough.

    2. Re:Reality check by mapuche · · Score: 1

      At least in the Bush administration, there was a lot of funding to any research related to "security" and "terrorism". Some universities understood that early and had very good financing.

    3. Re:Reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Taylor attends The Davidson Academy. A secondary school for profoundly gifted youth on the University of Nevada, Reno campus. My wife is his chemistry teacher. The Academy and University have a mutually advantageous relationship that allows motivated students like Taylor access to advanced resources not customarily accessible to the typical high school student.

    4. Re:Reality check by Compholio · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ... Meanwhile, these guys have sufficient resources to start handing out equipment and lab space to enterprising teenagers for science fair projects! ...

      A lot of funding agencies require a certain amount of your research budget to be spent on "educational outreach." It's likely that someone went "gee, here's a cool way to spend my outreach budget that won't require me to do anything."

    5. Re:Reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Allow me to be the first to say, WHAT THE YELLOW RUBBERY ...

      Go right ahead. In fact, you may very well be the first person to say that in the entire history of the world.

      If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.

    6. Re:Reality check by PPH · · Score: 1

      Do they have a football* team? This might explain why they have the time and resources to support gifted students.

      * Yeah, I know. What kind of football?

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    7. Re:Reality check by RogerWilco · · Score: 1

      Sometimes there is just stuff that's no longer useful for science, either because it can't be calibrated any more, or uses a technology that is no longer useful. But for someone tinkering, and not concerned about measurable, reliably repeatable outcomes, they can still be useful.

      For example I have an old oil based vacuum pump from a lab I used to work. It's no use in today's semiconductor physics, because things have gotten so small that the oil pollutes any experiment, and the vacuum it creates isn't high grade enough anyway, but if you only care about creating a modest vacuum for some tinkering, and don't care about scale or repeatability, than it's still fun to play with.

      Same thing with old amplifiers that can't be properly calibrated any more.

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    8. Re:Reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My daughter attended UNR 04 to 08 she remembers Taylor and a few other kids she would see on campus that were in the gifted students program there. I'm not sure of his age when she was attending UNR, She thought he was around 12.

    9. Re:Reality check by blincoln · · Score: 1

      They probably gave him older equipment that was due to be sold as surplus. It's easy to find that sort of thing on eBay or at university auctions for surprisingly low prices.

      As long as someone doesn't mind using a device that's a lot bigger and clunkier than the brand-new equivalent (and is off-warranty, and probably past due for calibration), it's a great way to get ahold of things that would normally be out of reach for non-professionals.

      The University of Washington has so much unwanted equipment like this that not only do they have regular auctions, but they actually have a large store that's open to the public on certain days of the month. The store is incredibly overpriced, especially since most of the equipment is incomplete and/or untested, but a lot of highly specialized (older) equipment is sold at very reasonable prices at the auctions.

      Anyway, given the low interest in fields like physics among the general population, I'm not at all surprised that staff there thought it was worthwhile to encourage someone who obviously has a talent for it.

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    10. Re:Reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Allow me to be the first to say, WHAT THE YELLOW RUBBERY ...

      Go right ahead. In fact, you may very well be the first person to say that in the entire history of the world. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.

      Yup, we will.

      What the yellow rubbery fuck? The phrase has 1300 hits on google dating back to at least 2004 that cites Stephen Fry's 1991 novel The Liar as the source. Happy 20th Birthday, you awesome little phrase, and now there are 1303.

    11. Re:Reality check by Calos · · Score: 1

      In my experience, it's actually the grad students... :p Often undergrads are still in the crap-their-pants-in-fear stage - either for their own safety or for damage caused to equipment. In grad school, the peak of the distribution hits complacency...

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    12. Re:Reality check by Calos · · Score: 1

      Oh, old oil pumps are still very useful in semiconductors - especially if they can use fluorinated oils. If nothing else, they can be used to rough a chamber before the hi-vac pump takes over, or to regen a cryo or rough out a diff pump. Use as a rough pump - and not for process - doesn't require any great precision, just that the pressure gets low enough for the hi-vac to take over.

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    13. Re:Reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taylor attends The Davidson Academy. A secondary school for profoundly gifted youth on the University of Nevada, Reno campus. My wife is his chemistry teacher. The Academy and University have a mutually advantageous relationship that allows motivated students like Taylor access to advanced resources not customarily accessible to the typical high school student.

      Yup, years ago in my 'gifted' high school program we had classes at the local University and got to meet professors and grad students. When I wanted to modify an FTIR I was able to talk to one of those professors and the next day I was in this old lab with a couple of no-longer-in-use FTIR's at my disposal. It's called encouragement. If you've spent your time dicking around there's not going to be justification for encouraging you with their resources.

    14. Re:Reality check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHAT THE YELLOW RUBBERY FUCK?

      This or this, or do you have something more exotic in mind, such as this?

  18. Yes, it's a fusion reactor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where it says "fusion reactor" it means "Farnsworth Fusor". Yes, it fuses hydrogen. No, it doesn't have net power output.

  19. Fusion Reactors aren't myth, people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the love of Science, fusion reactors are actually pretty easy to make. The problem is making them pass unity (ie, produce more power than they consume).

    Go look up a Farnsworth-Hirsch Fusor - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor . Kids have been making them for scout merit badges for years.

  20. Not sure if good idea... by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Neutron radiation leads to neutron activation. I don't know off the top of my head what intensity of neutron radiation would be needed, but exposure which forms long-lived isotopes is cumulative. Common isotopes of iron, nickel and copper are all susceptible to some amount of activation.

    Cross-section to spall neutrons off of U238 or Th232 are ~1barn with halflife of days, but the most common isotope of iron has a n-2n cross section of around half a barn and the result has a halflife of several years. Any nuke techs care to chime in?

  21. I've always wanted one of those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could've used one just the other day...

  22. Yes, fusion reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To all the idiots being smartasses and trying to claim he couldn't possibly have built a fusion reactor:

    Making a fusion reactor is easy. What is difficult is to create a fusion reactor that produces useful amounts of power at a reasonable cost. If all you want is the neutrons then power output is not important, making it relatively easy to do. You only need a few kV or electric potential, and every cathode ray tube or even just some flourescent light armatures contain the electronics needed. The reason this won't get you a power plant is that to make the thing produce more power than you put in you need a good energy confinement ( making sure most of the energy you put is not just radiated away and wasted ). Now THAT is very tricky, and generally involves the use of computer controlled magnets or extremely powerful lasers.

  23. Love it. by mustPushCart · · Score: 1

    Detecting nuclear bombs by shooting neutrons at it is like detecting dynamite by throwing fire at it right?

    1. Re:Love it. by ThunderBird89 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nope, the bomb's fissile material is subcritical until the point of explosion, when it's compressed by an explosive charge (in crude terms, actually an explosive lens) into supercriticality. While subcritical, no amount of neutron bombardment will trigger it.

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    2. Re:Love it. by azalin · · Score: 2

      You know that you can't set of dynamite that easily. Basicly the whole idea of dynamite is to have an explosive that doesn't blow in your face.
      C4 can even be used in some camping stoves to heat your dinner.

    3. Re:Love it. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Detecting nuclear bombs by shooting neutrons at it is like detecting dynamite by throwing fire at it right?

      Yes, more or less. As actually dynamite is not exploding when thrown into fire. It just burns (not very good btw) off.

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    4. Re:Love it. by random_ID · · Score: 1

      If this becomes a common means of detecting fissile material then any competent terrorist bomber would build in an anti-tamper trigger that blows the bomb when scanned...

    5. Re:Love it. by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      If this becomes a common means of detecting fissile material then nothing will change because building nuclear bombs is way too hard for terrorists to do on their own and isn't worth it when their entire concept is glorified publicity stunts, and most of them are incompetent anyway.

      There... fixed that for you.

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    6. Re:Love it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but also no. You are describing the plutonium-239 bomb, which is more desirable but harder to make. The cheaper alternative is the uranium "gun" bomb: no fancy implosion needed, just smack two sub-critical parts of sufficiently pure U-235 together at great enough velocity, and Blammo. Don't think it even needs a neutron trigger. Given that all the uranium you need is in there separated only by the length of a short gun barrel (search "Little Boy" on Wikipedia), who knows how this thing will respond to a beam of extra neutrons.

  24. Summary AND article misleading by ThunderBird89 · · Score: 2

    Okay, you might call it a fusion reactor, but it's just a fusor no matter how you look at it. It could most likely be replaced with any other neutron source, since what drives this is the neutron bombardment and the detection of induced radiation, the source of neutrons doesn't matter.

    Also, this is in no way revolutionary. What is revolutionary, however, is that the ICE and border guard hasn't managed to implement an automated neutron scanner yet, but a 17-years-old kid managed to. That is why I congratulate him, and hope the government takes notice of him.

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    1. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the father or mother likely as engineers or physicists its no surprise the kid was educated and/or helped building such equipment. If anyone asks me that's not worth praising, unless he never got help from the parents or teaches in any way beyond basic education, in that case, very good for him/her.

    2. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DTRA is the agency who develops these things, not ICE or CBP. And it has major problems ... the first is shielding; the second is false positives. If you make it sensitive enough to see through simple shielding (concrete) than your false-positive rate becomes unacceptably high. Sorry, physics sucks that way.

    3. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      being noticed by the government is rarely a good thing

    4. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because when I got a projectile (plane) flying at 1000 km/h, with a nuclear warhead inside, I fuckin' think "landing, and going through the checks", before detonating it. :P

      Guys, you know I like you. And that I respect everyone.
      But it is way beyond me, how most Americans can be so delusional about this. How do you even get the idea that anybody who wanted to nuke something would go through any checks? I mean hasn't 9/11 told you anything?
      Come on. You're way smarter than this!

    5. Re:Summary AND article misleading by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

      We definitely shouldn't praise kids for their interest in science. Rather, we should reward kids for being popular and their dreams of becoming like Paris Hilton.

    6. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is still a reactor, no matter what spin you try to put on it.

      A reactor is a container that has reactions within it.
      A fusion reactor is a container that, specifically, has fusion reactions happening within it.

      If it was being called a power generator, then there'd be a problem, but it wasn't.
      The term "nuclear reactor" has been misused by an ungodly number of people over the decades.

    7. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The government has indeed taken notice and he is offered a highly salaried position here in Beijing.

    8. Re:Summary AND article misleading by gbutler69 · · Score: 0

      is that the ICE and border guard hasn't managed to implement an automated neutron scanner yet, but a 17-years-old kid managed to

      Well, here is another example proving that most of what people say on the internet is complete bullshit. Everytime there is something I actually KNOW FOR CERTAIN BECAUSE I WAS THERE I see tons of comments by people, including reporters and new organizations, that show they don't know WTF they are talking about yet they shoot off their mouths like they actually know something. In fact, ICE/CBP DOES have automated neutron detectors, and they don't rely on radiating. They are passive. They use Sodium-Iodide Crystals to detect Gamma Radiation and Helium 3 detectors for Neutrons. They are highly sensitive. I know, because I worked as a contractor developing software for the management and control of the systems. I also helped to deploy them in England, Amsterdam, and place in the US, and helped to test them at Nevada Test Site. It's comments like the parent that reminde how full of shit most people, including so-called professionals, actually are. The problem is people actually believe whoever shoots off their mouth the loudest, most frequently, in the most obnoxious manner. Most people have never produced anything of value in their entire life and yet go around shooting off their mouth at every opportunity.

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    9. Re:Summary AND article misleading by ThunderBird89 · · Score: 5, Informative

      You might have misunderstood me. I didn't mean passive neutron radiation detectors, I meant something like this kid built: an active scanner, that's capable of analyzing the contents of the crate without opening it (that's what the article implies). I go a bit further, the real news is not making this, it's how he crunches the data to get the contents from the reflected neutron flux/induced radiation pattern, whichever he uses.
      A passive neutron scanner is all dandy and fine, but can be defeated with shielding. This active scanner, developed far enough for sensitivity/crunching capacity, could detect the presence of shielding (though not its contents), which itself would be grounds for suspicion. The passive scanner would just indicate a zero or very low flux, which might be mistaken for background radiation or other, similarly innocuous, explanation.

      Chill the f*ck out, and respond civilly, I did not insult you.

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    10. Re:Summary AND article misleading by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      That is why I congratulate him, and hope the government takes notice of him.

      You act like that would be a good thing.

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    11. Re:Summary AND article misleading by ThunderBird89 · · Score: 1

      Hey, if it means you get an advanced detection system for nukes on your border (not that there wouldn't be other ways, circumventing this, for the al Qaeda to smuggle one (or twelve, with one in Jericho)) into the US, it's a win-win situation.
      I see no problems.

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    12. Re:Summary AND article misleading by blincoln · · Score: 1

      "Okay, you might call it a fusion reactor, but it's just a fusor no matter how you look at it."

      How is a fusor *not* a fusion reactor? It is a device that causes nuclear reactions, even if it doesn't reach break-even in terms of energy output.

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    13. Re:Summary AND article misleading by BillX · · Score: 1

      Hmm... 17 year old kid playing with Teh Radiations, building fusors, shooting at potential fissile materials with neutron beams? From what I understand of our government, it will definitely, er, take notice of him.

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    14. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is why I congratulate him, and hope the government takes notice of him.

      Hopefully they won't do this by putting him on a watch-list for having "dangerous knowledge".

    15. Re:Summary AND article misleading by WNight · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because poor freedom fighters are going to have the resources the build nukes.

      Is there medication you forgot to take?

    16. Re:Summary AND article misleading by ThunderBird89 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because the al Qaeda are so poor and undersupplied...

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    17. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    18. Re:Summary AND article misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, we see him. He's glowing. Apparently leaving the thing on all night in your bedroom is a bad idea.

    19. Re:Summary AND article misleading by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Pakistan has nukes, Iran will eventually; Iran would probably entertain the notion of reestablishing the Persian Empire.

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    20. Re:Summary AND article misleading by SomeStupidNickName12 · · Score: 1

      Iran probably has ambitions of reestablishing the Persian Empire but they are not going by using Nukes - they nuke a neighbor or US/Israel and its game over the world declares war.

      Now days nukes are used to stop countries from invading. You wonder why Iraq was invaded but North Korea hasn't?

  25. What a foolish genius by elucido · · Score: 1

    If there is one thing not to mess with as a teen, it's nuclelar tech.

    1. Re:What a foolish genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is that a joke?

  26. Nevermind that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do so many alleged nerds not know the difference between cold fusion and fusion?

    People are so quick to take the piss out of something on here that half of them skip reading, comprehension, or both.

  27. I don't think so by ocean_soul · · Score: 0

    "It utilizes a small fusion reactor that he made [...]" That right there is a clear indication this is bullshit.

    1. Re:I don't think so by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Again: Fusing atoms isn't rocket science. Getting more energy out of it than you put in is the nontrivial part.

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    2. Re:I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This comment is a clear indication that you don't have a clue.

    3. Re:I don't think so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Stop reading slashdot and go read a science book.

      You are way behind the curve on a site filled mostly with folks that aren't.

  28. Re:No kidding by _merlin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Fusion reactor" is dumbed-down terminology for the masses. What he's built is probably a Farnsworthâ"Hirsch Fusor which can be made quite small. It's not useful for generating energy as it's very inefficient, but it's a good neutron source. Also, you're missing the point of how his contraption is supposed to work. The radiation detector isn't the part that uses the fusor. The fusor is used to send a neutron beam through the package under test. If it contains enriched uranium or plutonium, the interaction with neutrons will cause it to emit far higher levels of neutron flux and gamma radiation than most other materials. If you see this effect, you might want to inspect the package. I don't know how effective it is in practice, but the premise of operation makes sense.

  29. Re:No kidding by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fusion is actually trivial to achieve. Thousands of people have built units in their garage.. it's a common science fair project.

    Perhaps you're confused because you've heard that an effective fusion power plant is an area of active research and not currently available and have incorrectly assumed that this somehow implies that fusion must be hard.

    You're wrong, and I hope you feel like an idiot now for being so smug.

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  30. Re:No kidding by SEE · · Score: 4, Informative

    I assure you, Farnsworthâ"Hirsch fusors exist, fit the dictionary definition of "reactor", are well within the capabilities of teenagers to build, and do emit neutrons.

    And I also assure you that when you bombard fissile material with neutrons, its rate of activity goes up, and that increase in activity makes it easier to detect the fissile material with radiation detectors.

  31. I'm gonna barf SPIN SPIN by jimmydevice · · Score: 0

    What the hell is with his web page? Does he hate gays and incite them with all his crooked pictures?

  32. Re:No kidding by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 4, Informative

    The operating principle is given in the second sentence of the goddamn summary: Fire neutrons in, watch radiation from activation products. As others have pointed out, otherwise known as Neutron Activation Spectroscopy.

  33. Re:No kidding by metacell · · Score: 2

    Well, the article did clearly specify this was a different type of detector, which worked by emitting neutrons, exciting nearby fissionable material, and measuring the radiation given off by it after excitation. Still, it's unlikely the boy has has a portable nuclear reactor. Perhaps some of the article is true, and the journalist confused that part.

  34. Fission not Fusion by bl968 · · Score: 0

    If he had created a Fusion reactor both him and his familiy would be set for life...

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    1. Re:Fission not Fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh No, It's fusion. Simple magnetic compression in a spiral. 2 H fuse = N~ He? WTF don't ask me.
      Takes more energy to do the reaction then you get out, Like others said "Farnsworth fusor"
      . Some other quacks have tried to produce + energy from the reaction ( more like suckers + $ = profits for quacks )
      None have succeeded, from what I have read.

    2. Re:Fission not Fusion by RobinH · · Score: 1

      For goodness sake, please read the other comments above you. He probably has a Farnsworth Fusor.

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  35. Re:No kidding by ewanm89 · · Score: 2

    The fusion reactor is an neutron emitter is all, not a sustainable power supply that generates more energy than is needed to contain it. It's the second of these that's difficult, even the Sun's containment isn't too great, and at that mass, it has gravity doing a large amount of the work. We need to hold our fusion of levels needed to produce energy in strong magnetic fields to hold it together and not let it melt the reactor. The electromagnets needed to produce such magnetic fields use a lot of energy (until the more recent designs, more than the fusion reaction generates).

  36. Nothing new here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is nothing new here other than a kid decides he wants to become sterile.

  37. Gizmodo by indytx · · Score: 1

    I love the Gizmodo link. Nothing like having a blank screen when I follow the link because I have to allow scripts on the page for simple text to show up. Nice. Good work on the post.

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    1. Re:Gizmodo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gizmodo is 99% gossip and worthless tripe. I'm a starred commenter at lifehacker (my star works across all Gawker sites) and I simply cannot stand giz. Like you, I don't allow javascript there either and block 100% of their ads, even on LH due to the obnoxious nature of them. Any web property that has 15 external links for ad/graphical content is just "bad."

      I do allow javascript from 2 sites so LH will work, but no others. I don't allow javascript on /. either.

      You and I know that Javascript is very dangerous and shouldn't be allowed on 99.9999% of the web sites that we use, including /. If you can't achieve the look with CSS, then you really shouldn't do it.

  38. Nuclear Teens by Ironwolf · · Score: 1

    The Onion, of course, pointed out this disturbing trend some time ago:

    Report Finds Troubling Rise In Teen Uranium Enrichment

  39. Re:And his Dad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jealous much?

  40. Re:No kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow. Please don't vote parent up and please vote grandparent down.

    I expected better of people from Slashdot to not be your average moronic Americans who go batshit insane at the mention of anything nuclear.
    Seems I was wrong.

    Slashdot really needs a "Moron" rating. Seriously, add it, please.
    This kind of stupidity is just embarrassing.
    Same goes for all those other morons below here.

    It is a nuclear reactor that performs fusion. Get over it.
    It isn't efficient. It isn't for getting a profit in power. It is for generating neutrons.
    Fusion isn't hard to do if you don't care about what comes out of it, especially if all you want is a neutron source.
    Tabletop fusion has been done more times than most people here have probably had hot dinners.
    Since there are so many morons on here, I will link this.
    Because it seems fusion is seriously hard to do...
    SO hard.
    Sorry for my mockery, but due to the number of morons that appear to have collected on Slashdot recently, I'm sure you will understand why.

  41. I checked. It's not April 1. by stevegee58 · · Score: 0

    Sketchy fusion reactor is sketchy.

  42. Aiming for the TSA boondoggle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He can probably milk them for millions - further 'research' needed and all that.

  43. Aargh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why "utilize" - was the word "use" not long enough? Consultancy past shining through?

  44. Re:No kidding by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fusor is used to send a neutron beam through the package under test. If it contains enriched uranium or plutonium, the interaction with neutrons will cause it to emit far higher levels of neutron flux and gamma radiation than most other materials

    And if he does that trick on a barely subcritical mass of uranium 235 or plutonium, it goes bang.

  45. Another teenage fusor by aniefer · · Score: 2

    At first I thought the article was about this guy, another teenager building a fusion reactor.

  46. Re:No kidding by _merlin · · Score: 2

    And if he does that trick on a barely subcritical mass of uranium 235 or plutonium, it goes bang.

    Not likely - the amount of fissile material in a typical nuclear bomb has to be compressed to a fraction of its size by the detonation mechanism in order to achieve criticality. Exposing it to neutron flux won't set it off.

  47. Re:No kidding by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

    Yeah thats why I said a barely subcritical mass, not a normal fission bomb. And yes, I know that this is pretty unlikely. Such a mass would be sensitive to other factors such as humidity.

  48. ICE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ICE and border guard hasn't managed to implement an automated neutron scanner yet, but a 17-years-old kid managed to.

    That's because they are too busy taking down websites for the RIAA.

    1. Re:ICE by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      What abuot stopping US citizens within the US who hadn't left the country at random road checkpoints to "confirm they are US citizens" and have the drug dogs sniff their cars without reasonable suspicion? Yes, this happens in Texas. No, it's not constitutional.

  49. This could work by mbone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Read the paper. He bought or built a "Farnsworth Fusor" to send 2.5 MeV neutrons into a package, and then look for high energy products of neutron induced fission from the package. These would be high enough in energy that the natural background would be quite low, making false positives low. There is no reason why this shouldn't work (although whether its practical is another question.)

    He tested it on "20 grams of Natural Uranium Trioxide (UO3) containing - 99.3% U238 and 0.7% U235." (In other words, about 0.1 grams of U235.) The integration time he found he needed was 10 minutes, rather than the 15 seconds desired by DHS, but it's an interesting concept. He doesn't do any calculations as to the expected return from an interesting about of U235 (say, 100 grams), but it would be higher, and so integration times should be less.

    He also says that the incident beam is low enough not to be harmful : "the system has low enough does as to not affect the health or functionality of the cargo and operator, However, he doesn't state any dosage information, which I would fault him on if I were grading this paper.

    1. Re:This could work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you'd fault him on that when most of the other projects are probably potato batteries, baking soda volcanoes, or Mentos/Coke reactions? tsk tsk tsk :)

    2. Re:This could work by thermopile · · Score: 5, Insightful
      OK, Praise #1: This guy is awesome. He has the chops and wherewithal to build his own Farnsworth fusor by age 14.

      Praise #2: He's not satisfied with just building the thing, he wants to apply the thing. That's what I find truly commendable.

      So he goes off and learns a lot of good science and engineering in how to look for special nuclear material. Dennis Slaughter, of Lawrence Livermore National Lab, was featured on the front page of the American Nuclear Society's Nuclear News magazine in November of 2007 for his "nuclear car wash." Basically the same idea: use a neutron generator (a big one, in this case) and look for signatures of delayed neutrons in response.

      So, what Taylor has done isn't revolutionary, but I'm sure it's a lot cheaper than any other neutron active interrogation system out there. Good for him. And, again, awesome job for hunting for useful applications of technology.

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  50. Here's how it works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [points to the sky]

    Yep, it's a nuclear bomb.

  51. Re:No kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    At least it's not a Bitcoin article.

  52. Repost Next April by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Foolishness.

  53. Re:No kidding by blueg3 · · Score: 1

    Only if it was designed to be a bomb that triggered when you tried to detect it. Otherwise, the uncontrolled chain reaction would go something more like "zort" as it irradiated all the people nearby.

    People have accidentally made supercritical masses before. You can't just lump a sufficient amount of plutonium into one spot and magically it's a bomb.

  54. Science is cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And we're in this world to fulfill our destiny to survive (of course) and learn -- but let's use learning to survive further, not die younger.

    While science is cool, the examples of people studying radium and dying or experimenting with explosives with amazing losses come to mind.

    Except now the stakes are way higher: be careful to not blow up only your family, but your entire circle of friends... on Facebook!

  55. Re:No kidding by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 3, Informative

    People have accidentally made supercritical masses before. You can't just lump a sufficient amount of plutonium into one spot and magically it's a bomb.

    Nope. It'll seriously mess up your day, but a bomb it ain't.

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  56. "kid" proves it works Adults get tasked with the d by RobertLTux · · Score: 2

    I can see a group of engineers being told " Okay this kid showed us a plan on how to make this thing you need to figure out how to make it work in the field UNLESS I SHOULD FIRE THE LOT OF YOU AND HIRE THIS KID AND HIS FRIENDS"

    maybe the dosage info is not present because he did not have/take the time to get enough data for a legally/medically sound figure??

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  57. Science is cool... by nurb432 · · Score: 2

    Yes i agree, but its not approved knowledge by our federal government. Please come with us.

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  58. Re:No kidding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "The phrase "fusion reactor" should have set off the bullshit detectors right there."

    Only if you're stupid, pig-ignorant and are unable to Google.

  59. Re:And his Dad by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Do you know the kid? i was doing things like then when i was in high school 30 years ago and i did NOT have it handed to me to 'call it mine'.

    Creating what this kid does not require TONS of money, and besides is it a crime if his parents are funding his learning? Learning doesn't come free ya know.

    You have no clue what really took place here, so you just look stupid.

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  60. Re:No kidding by T+Murphy · · Score: 1

    Sure, this sounds like it would be good at telling you when you find U or Pu or whatever, but what happens to the benign stuff? Is it dangerous to people? Does it pose a risk to electronics and/or data?

  61. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2

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  62. My review... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worst.
    Haircut.
    Ever.

    Aren't there things that might be shipped in cargo containers that might be damaged by exposure to neutron radiation? Devices with firmware in flash memory, etc?

  63. U.S. Was Doing This 50 Years Ago... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in space! The US launched surveillance satellites containing a neutron source. They would "ping" foreign satellite and monitor the response signature. A correlated neutron spike response indicates the presence of fissile material.

    1. Re:U.S. Was Doing This 50 Years Ago... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      Making something more workable, smaller, and cheaper is also a form of innovation. I bet this system costs a whole lot less than the satellite-based system and we already know its more portable.

  64. Fusor, not reactor by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would guess that it is a Farnsworth-Hirsch fusor which is a commercially produced device to produce free neutrons. In terms of application I'd be a little concerned what this device is used to probe. Neutrons are readily absorbed by many nuclei and can produce radioactive isotopes. So scanning an object will result in making it radioactive. While I would hope the number of neutrons required would be small, and so the activation minimal, this is still probably a concern for foodstuffs since radioactive material is a lot more dangerous inside the body than outside. Same applies for clothing too probably.

    The other issue is that since a nuclear device is a sub-critical mass of fissile material bombarding it with enough neutrons may actually make it supercritical while it is in the beam if the beam balances the neutrons lost. This would let you "detect" the bomb put perhaps not in a very constructive way...although again I would guess that the number of neutrons used for scanning would probably be too small to do this.

    1. Re:Fusor, not reactor by isopropanol · · Score: 0

      Same applies for clothing too probably.

      Especially edible panties.

    2. Re:Fusor, not reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but you seem to be assigning magical qualities to radioactivity. The reason radioactive isotopes are dangerous is they emit particles which can damage the DNA strands in our cellular matter. This occurs all the time via natural background processes anyway, usually the bodies own healing and repair mechanisms cause this not to be a problem, occasionally mutations or defects in the cells can cause cancerous behaviour. The point I'm making is it's very relevant how many neutrons are being used, simply based on statistics, a single photon from the sun CAN cause cancerous after effects, but it's very unlikely. A few neutrons could cause radioactivity in the body, but only in a few atoms, which may be "more likely" to cause problems, but only in the way that you would put on "more weight" if you ate 2 grains of sand instead of 1.

    3. Re:Fusor, not reactor by cgenman · · Score: 1

      this is still probably a concern for foodstuffs since radioactive material is a lot more dangerous inside the body than outside. Same applies for clothing too probably.

      Radioactive clothing is definitely more dangerous inside the body than outside.

    4. Re:Fusor, not reactor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would guess that it is a Farnsworth-Hirsch fusor which is a commercially produced device to produce free neutrons.

      The device is in no way COMMERCIALLY produced... that's just being an ignorant fool. These devices are all handmade from hodgepodge parts and scroungings and not simply a "kit" or "unit" you can purchase from some store or website. All fusioneers have to hand-build and design their own, thus, each one looks different and operates differently from eachother but always at an energy loss.

    5. Re:Fusor, not reactor by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

      Why don't you google for commercial neutron sources. They are certainly commercially produced.

    6. Re:Fusor, not reactor by balaband · · Score: 1

      I would guess that it is a Farnsworth-Hirsch fusor ...

      Good news everyone!

  65. Not that hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surely detecting a nuclear bomb isn't that hard. Or does he mean before it goes off?

  66. Neutron activation analysis by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative

    This process is called neutron activation analysis. It's well known. The practical problems are 1) not putting in so many neutrons that the tested object becomes radioactive, and 2) detecting enough emitted particles in a reasonable length of time. There's an obvious tradeoff there. The second problem is solvable with a large number of detectors, which probably means a portal or tunnel setup, rather than a hand-held device.

    Here's a commercial luggage screening machine from Russia which includes nuclear material detection by neutron activation, along with regular explosive detection.

  67. Some problems why it won't work by meerling · · Score: 1

    At least not with non-homemade devices.
    Although it generates a neutrons, which pretty much ignore shielding, if it's portable it's not going to generate that much. Also, it's not a neutron detector.
    Now here's the fun part, properly manufactured nuclear devices are shielded to such a level you could use it to shield yourself from other radiation sources. They do NOT show up as radiation sources until you detonate them. Any neutron source that would cause the core to become so radioactive it can be detected is going to be impractical and probably be the source of other issues if used.

    As to uniqueness, the process being used is known, and various government agencies have multiple detection systems for nuclear weapons, but it's not like they openly talk about them.

    All in all, it's a neat thing he did. Hollywood is full of B.S., but it might still work on poorly made homejobs. Of course, one of those shadowy government groups may already have something like it.

    1. Re:Some problems why it won't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, brilliant. Except it doesn't work by NAA, but by exploiting the property of SNM to induce fission events and then compares the resulting neutron energy spectrum with known values for nuclides of interest.

      This neutron generator (a source would be radiochemical in nature, like Pu:Be) doesn't rely on making a core so radioactive, in fact relatively few fission events are needed to discriminate between ordinary material and material of interest. This isn't neutron activation analysis, which to address a common misconception, doesn't involve measuring NEUTRONS, but rather the induced radioactivity of an isotope caused by neutron capture event, based on the energy signature of the resulting particles of decay (alpha, negatron, positrons, etc.) or most often, the gamma spectrum signature of said activated isotope. This isn't to say neutron activation isn't occurring at all, but it isn't what's being evaluated. So yes, it does have a neutron detector--one so sensitive it has the ability to discriminate the different energies being received back (through use of a IC).

      Neutrons ignore shielding? You better hope not or we've all been in grave danger since Chadwick's experiments. Read them sometime, you'd be surprised just what attenuates a neutron.

      And yes, this is not new...neutron interrogation has been around, but it has mostly been confined to the use of radiochemical sources to produce neutrons (impractical for large volumes), or large neutron generators in a portal style configuration.

  68. Wait, has he thought this through? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps, just perhaps, firing neutrons at a near-critical mass of fissile material isn't the best of ideas. And I guess a nuke put together by some terrorist group etc is going to be a lot closer to critical than one put together by a respectable nation.

    1. Re:Wait, has he thought this through? by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Why would you have a near-critical mass in a nuclear bomb? Isn't the purpose of the standard explosives to shove two globs of roughl half that mass together suddenly? A dirty bomb almost certainly wouldn't be near critical even altogether, as its purpose is to disperse the radioactive material. You really think someone's sticking a slightly less than critical mass of fissile material in a crate somewhere and slapping a FedEx label on it?

  69. Did anyone else immediately think of... by Rhodri+Mawr · · Score: 1

    Dr Sheldon Cooper when reading the summary?

  70. Bad Idea by badass+fish · · Score: 1

    Isn't that like checking for dynamite with matches.

  71. A real browser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    get one

  72. Prodigy or Parents doing kids' homework? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm almost sick of these "child discovers/creates amazing scientific breakthrough!" type articles in the popular press.

    They make it sound like Dougie Houser did it all by himself in his parents basement, things which are supposed to be difficult or totally missed by adult researchers in the field.

    Meanwhile, the kid that "cracked" CSS only contributed the smallest fragment of code to a team project, but got all the credit in the press.

    A 17 year old "discovers" a medical breakthrough that could help prevent some cancers. What's not mentioned in the newspapers and buried 3 pages in on more detailed articles is that "her" research was based on her parents work, and she was little more than a hyped up lab assistant.

    Come on folks, these are NOT genius kids. These are the people everybody hated because they got A's in school because their parents did their homework projects for them, spending hundreds of dollars on fancy materials and slick presentation. This is Captain Kirk in the 2009 movie.

  73. Re:I checked. It's not April 1. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moronic post is moronic. Stick to software, it's more your speed.

  74. Re:No kidding by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

    Fusion is hard. It can be done, but if it was easy it'd be a net power source. ;-)

  75. Re:No kidding by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

    Damn it. Now we're going to have to read about a neutron emitter getting a pot growing warrant or someone using bitcoins to pay for a neutron emitter or something.

  76. Re:No kidding by blueg3 · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah. Anyone nearby will be seriously upset. For a short while. Pretty different from a bomb, though.

  77. Re:No kidding by budgenator · · Score: 1

    Sorry to piss in your boot, but when your have fissile material being irradiated with neutrons, it fissions and radiates gamma. Gamma rays are easy to detect and discriminating between gamma and neutrons is trivial.

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  78. "small fusion reactor" by Corson · · Score: 1

    Right, because we know that "small fusion reactors" can actually be built and run.

  79. Re:No kidding by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 1

    Such a mass would be sensitive to other factors such as humidity.

    And baggage handlers.

  80. Those scanners are very sensitive too by budgenator · · Score: 1

    Our office takes the dental insurance that DHS uses, so we get quite a few Customs and Boarder Protection agents as patients. One told me that when they had the radiation scanners operational, the trash trucks from Canada couldn't get threw for 3 days, they finally had to steam-clean all of the trailers to get the radiation levels low enough to enter the United States. Thallium stress tests causes problems at the boarder too.

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  81. "PROFOUNDLY Gifted"? by rlseaman · · Score: 1

    Snark on slashdot is business as usual. Being skeptical of the phrase "fusion reactor" tossed around lightly in the press is nothing to feel bad about. Why the writer wasn't more careful in phrasing the article to begin with is a more revealing question. Calling a fusor a fusion reactor misses the whole point of what a fusion reactor would be should one ever exist.

    Why no skepticism here, though, about the description of this purported "Little Man Tate" school:

    http://www.davidsonacademy.unr.edu/

    We're to believe 1) that a significant population of PROFOUNDLY Gifted (emphasis in the original) kids exists in Reno, a city of just 200,000, and 2) that for some reason such populations don't exist in your own city or state for your local University to turn into mutant leaders of tomorrow? This is just charter school hyperbole and "Mismeasure of Man" crap about standardized testing. The school has been around for five years. What are the Reno odds that it will still be around after another five?

    Regarding the science fair skepticism ("Daddy must have done it"), I might suggest that you seek out your local science fair with your own local population of regular old students. Annual judging day never fails to make me feel good about the future even given a general dearth of sources of neutrons irradiating the hall.

  82. Still not corrected? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It utilizes a small fusion reactor that he made when he was 14"

    Umm... wouldn't a fusion reactor be one heck of a story!?

  83. Let's clarify some things said in previous posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I need to clarify some things. First, yes a nuclear bomb can be blown up by neutrons pointed at them. In fact all nuclear weapons do this, even Fat man and Little Boy dropped on Japan. At first via a Beryllium-polonium pellet that would be mixed by the explosion giving off neutrons to make the explosion more efficient. Today this is done by electronic fusion/neutron generators similar to the fusion device mentioned but smaller.

    In fact, a way to destroy an incoming nuclear bomb which by ICBM touches the edge of space, is to blow up a nuclear bomb near it-this has been strongly considered and probably implemented into strategy. You don't have to hit it-the neutron flux-preferably from a low explosive, high neutron yield device such as a neutron bomb, will cause the weapon to self detonate by increasing the fission rate in the bomb and make it explode-not a full yield-just enough to make the enemy's weapon destroy itself by what is termed a 'fissile'. We are talking trillions and quadrillions times more neutrons, many times over, to do this than the fusor will produce-capable of 'just 10 million' neutrons peer second - one billion n/s if using deuterium and tritium instead of deuterium solely.

    So no, it will not make a weapon explode unless it is already just barely sub-critical in which case a natural ly occuring flux, or a neutron reflecting material too close such as steel, carbon, aluminum, etc close by would make it go critical too. But not explode, and no person would ever have a super-close-to-critical piece of radioactive material made. Any slight mistake would make it go supercritical and they'd be dead quite soon. Just google the 'demon core' to know what I'm speaking of.

    2. Although commercial electronic neutron generators/fusion devices are available, I know of no commercially available fusors-
    nobody buys them, this kid built his. I have conversed with him. I have built one as well. They are not dangerous, they are difficult to build-less than 50 private individuals in the world have done so-that number was under 25 a few years ago, and only 2 or 3 in the 1990s. The closest to a commercial version, which is still not technically a fusor is built by NSD-Fusion but plan on setting yourself back $100,000-$150,000. A homemade device could cost as little as a few thousand dollars.

    3. Yes radioactive material is easily shielded. Alpha rays, the primary type of radiation in a weapon, can't penetrate more than a couple inches of air, let alone a piece of paper. Beta rays can't penetrate a thin sheet of plastic or aluminum foil, and gamma or x-rays can be blocked by a few millimeters of lead. However neutrons can go through all of this stuff, lead, gold, everything, but low density materials especially rich in hydrogen slow them down and can block them with some difficulty. Also yes, radioactive material
    can be used to shield one from radiation. Strong gamma sources or x-ray sources in labs will often be shielded from workers by uranium plating as less is needed than lead as it is more dense.

    4. This is the point though, radioactive materials CAN be shielded so how do we find it? Well, since the neutrons given off are
    penetrative this is the obvious way. But not that many neutrons are given off as the half-life of bomb-grade material is measured in millions and millions of years and only a fraction of decays will be by spontaneous fission which releases neutrons naturally.

    However if you have a neutron producing device which can hit the nuclear material and induce fission, releasing extra neutrons on
    demand with a specific energy signature you can 100% guarantee what element or isotope the neutrons are coming from. Plus these neutrons will go right through a cargo hold and be detected by the massive neutron detectors already installed at ports and borders by homeland security to detect the very small amounts of neutrons given off by weapons-grade material naturally.

    Using this fusor-system, smaller neutron detectors can be built or

  84. Re:You're talking absolute shit again... by Lundse · · Score: 1

    I'll gladly admit I had no clue one could do fusion as a science fair project - I thought the journalist had either been taken in, or was reporting in the usual science-journalism-style where everything is exaggerated to its Star Trek equivalent.
    That building the fusor was part of the 'news' (which it appears it is not - newsworthy, that is), did give the impression that what had been achieved was something worth writing about; sustainable fusion.

    There is a second shite factor here, though. Using this to 'fight terrorism'. A geiger counter could do as well, and I do not see this guy running around containers either way. A student building a known source of neutrons, and using it as an active scanner where a passive already exists, is not a great step up for Homeland Security. I am, in other words, not convinced that he just saved us all from a Horrible Death...

    All respect for the kid though - I can't imagine an active scanner setup is simple, and he does have a great attitude towards science.

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  85. why the anonymity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, what's the point of posting "anonymous coward" when you claim outright that your wife is the chemistry teacher. It ought not be difficult to look up the professor of chimie at the university or academy...

  86. nobel prize for physics? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

    Um its only physics if he was testing a hypothesis.

    He took established physical law and known to work configurations and built one, solving the myriad of technical challenges.

    Thats engineering,

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  87. Fusion Reactor at 14 by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    He built his own fusion reactor when he was 14? Are we sure his name is Taylor Wilson and not Sheldon Cooper?

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