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Aussie Climate Scientists Receiving Death Threats
An anonymous reader writes "With the Australian parliament beginning the debate on setting a carbon price, climate scientists are reporting an increase in threatening phone calls and even death threats. The threats are serious enough that several universities have increased security for their ecology and meteorology researchers. The Australian government is seeking to introduce a carbon tax by July 2012."
I am just using the only data and evidence that I have available to me; mainly my own knowledge and experience. Admittedly I have only my have one sample point, and I hope that all the rest of the data is good ,as everyone is putting blind faith into it (although there is no reason to believe it is unless I want to believe that weather scientist are omniscient god like entities who never submit to societal pressure). However I don't have access to the rest of the data, and apparently it is proprietary information. So given the fact that I do not access to this proprietary data, and the only data that I do have is false, I have two choices. I can believe what ever the media is saying, or I can use my own common sense and the very limited data I do have. I have to look outside the window, and ask myself if the weather is going haywire. No. Is it likely that the climate of the planet is changing. Yes. Has it changed in the past. Yes. Would it be great to have a warmer climate, and have dinosaurs running around and shit like they did in the past. Yes. Does it make sense to throw all humanity's efforts into combating this weather change, that might in the end be inevitable? No.
Rather that snipping at each other and making snide character comments it would be better if humanity could work together to try to get off the planet. Rather than worrying about what impact humans have on the climate, climate scientist could be looking into Terra-forming Mars. The only way to eliminate the affect that humans have on the planet, would be to eliminate all the humans. Ohh wait, I forgot only conservative people affect the climate. OK, so just kill all the conservatives, and I a sure the planet will be happy.
-Regards freedom loving libertarian.
Oh dear, you've attacked the sacred almighty science reputation ! Kill the traitor ! Oh wait, it's climate "science" (I'm of the exact sciences persuasion, and well, they don't measure up) ! Exterminate the traitor, slowly, neuter his dog and kill his family !
You know, this repuation.
The sad fact is, attempt to hold up climate science to the standards of other exact sciences, like physics, and nothing remains. Predictions made by climate scientists in the past "with 95% certainty" (and higher) have failed to materialize. Do that in physics, and your theory gets laughed out of every conference.
What is by far the most disgusting bit about climate science is that "skeptic" has become an insult. Imho, the basis of science is doubt, and so everybody should be a climate skeptic, even when it comes to established theories. If anyone needs more proof that this science is overly politicized, there you have it. Everybody also knows that this is done for political reasons (the climate treaties) ...
this is disgusting
You haven't presented any arguments at all, just straw, FUD, and lies. Apparently what you don't like about anthropogenic global warming is that it presents a pessimistic scenario and you believe in optimism, right?
Well, the problem is that the outlook is bad, and no optimism will change that. And if you accept the oil industry theory that acting to substitute fossil fuels now will cause economic catastrophe, just wait till the fossil fuels run out and we don't have an alternative. Even assuming fossil fuels weren't causing global warming that would be reason enough to start developing alternatives.
It's funny how people like you disbelieve the studies done by scientists about global warming, yet are ready to believe anything the oil industry tells you about how much cheap fuel we will have when we start getting oil from tar sands and shale.
Do this sanity check, please: look for old articles on tar sands and shale. See how much they promised. I remember the first time I read about the Athabasca tar sands in Canada, in an article in Popular Mechanics in the 1960s. If those predictions had come to reality we would be swimming in oil by now, gasoline would be too cheap to meter.
That was over forty years ago and Popular Mechanics is still printing articles on how the vast oil resources in those sands will give us cheap gas. Talk about "in 10 years, no wait 30 years, no wait 80 years!!!"...