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Europe Set To Build Experimental Transport Spacecraft

coondoggie writes "Looking to take a giant step toward taking part in low Earth orbit transportation, exploration and servicing of orbiting space structures, the European Space Agency today said it would team with Thales Alenia Space Italia to begin building an experimental spacecraft for launch in 2013. 'The 2t lifting body will attain an altitude of around 450 km, allowing it to reach a velocity of 7.5 km/s on entering the atmosphere. It will collect a large amount of data (PDF) during its hypersonic and supersonic flight, while it is being controlled by thrusters and aerodynamic flaps.'"

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  1. The cheap option! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is cheaper to launch the Greeks into space then it is to bail them out!

    1. Re:The cheap option! by zill · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's hope they don't fly too close to the sun again.

  2. Just bitchin' by c0lo · · Score: 2
    (I really hate this morning, let's waste some time on /. Don't say I didn't warn you)

    TFA - contrast (with things taken out of the context)

    This goal will be achieved with IXV, which is the next step from the Atmospheric Reentry Demonstrator flight of 1998. More manoeuvrable and able to make precise landings, IXV is the 'intermediate' element of Europe's path to future developments with limited risks.

    Then

    The 2 t lifting body will attain an altitude of around 450 km, ...
    The craft will then descend by parachute and land in the Pacific Ocean to await recovery and analysis.

    Precise landing with a parachute, in the biggest ocean, awaiting then the recovery... yeah!

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    1. Re:Just bitchin' by rufty_tufty · · Score: 2

      I would guess that:
      * the US doesn't want to share all the details of shuttle technology.
      * In engineering there is no substitute for doing, you may think you know how something works, but until you build and fly it...
      * The shuttle design is antiquated, there are new materials, IT and functional developments that mean it makes sense to start again.
      * This ship has different requirements to the shuttle it is not trying to be a cargo ship, a space lab, a spy plane, no need for massive cross range, etc
      * By the logic of the shuttle works, why build a new design to do a similar thing; the 80386 processor works, why build an ARM processor?
      * Not invented here: on every level people would rather re-invent the wheel themselves because it is fun, cool, and theirs.

      Should I go on?

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  3. Re:Dang I misread this... by tloh · · Score: 2

    ...as experimental transparent spacecraft.

    Could not figure out why they would do that.

    Wonder Woman in space. duh!

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  4. Re:Landing zone by dlgeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes. You always launch spacecraft towards the east so that you get a velocity boost from the earth's rotation. This is a suborbital flight so it's basically a giant parabolic arc. If you're launching from Europe, it's not going to have time to go almost all the way around the world on an eastward path to hit the atlantic, so that leaves the Pacific.

  5. Link to actual press release by pnot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh good, I see we've got today's mandatory link to Michael Cooney's Layer 8 blog at NetworkWorld, the convenient middleman between Slashdot and news. This time he hasn't even bothered linking to the actual press release he's regurgitating, as far as I can tell. Still, more hits for NetworkWorld, that's what matters.

    Anyone know if he's done a post on Bitcoin yet?

  6. Re:Typical.... by Zironic · · Score: 2

    Actually France and Germany, the two biggest economies in Europe are supposed to be just fine and are probably the ones that provide most of the funding to this project. It's just Greece/Spain/Portugal/Ireland etc that nuked their economy.

  7. Re:Landing zone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Europe is going to land their spacecraft in the Pacific?

    It's harder to miss.

  8. Re:Landing zone by MacAnkka · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not going to be launched from Europe. The launch vehicle is going to be Arianespace's Vega, which is launched from French Guiana, in South America.

  9. Re:Typical.... by rufty_tufty · · Score: 2

    No, some European nations are bankrupt. France, Germany etc are doing very nicely thank you and they are the ones (along with the UK, Netherlands etc) who are providing the money to bail out the other EU nations.
    Besides, it's a stupid argument that because we can't cure poverty we shouldn't have a space program. That's like arguing that because we're starving we shouldn't write poetry, or try a new design of irrigation system, or work on that internal combustion engine we've been tinkering with.

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  10. Re:Landing zone by trout007 · · Score: 2

    Except for the Israelis. They launch to the west in a retrograde orbit because they don't want to drop launch debris on enemy countries.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavit

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