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Nevada Authorizes Development of Driverless Car Rules

DrEldarion writes "Via Forbes: 'The State of Nevada just passed Assembly Bill No. 511 which, among other things, authorizes the Department of Transportation to develop rules and regulations governing the use of driverless cars, such as Google's concept car, on its roads.' Pretty soon, cars will be able to dump their own dead bodies into the Nevada desert."

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  1. Re:How much lower could speeds go? by 0123456 · · Score: 2

    Actually, I believe that's prior AC's point: current freeway speeds are already quite a bit faster than any human can reasonably manage, insofar as not creating huge fucking traffic jams goes...

    So, uh, the traffic is going too slow on the freeways due to traffic jams caused by traffic going too fast?

  2. Re:How much lower could speeds go? by xMrFishx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think he means the bunch - spread - bunch - spread of traffic slowing and speeding up that you get with lane changers, idiot drivers, middle lane managers and so on. Breaking, when it's busy can have a mile long knock-on effect on cars behind you. Of course, when there's noone on the road, it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference. We as drivers, are fairly bad at being a swarm and acting as one. We're all very selfish. I'll take computer managed driving on motorways any day.

  3. Good by geekoid · · Score: 2

    ti's nice to see a lot of features i cars not only rolling out quickly, but the time it takes to go from a luxury car feature to a stand car feature is getting shorter with each technology..

    Can't wait to have my car drive me to work. So many advantages.

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  4. A step in the right direction by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the very long term, automated cars able to coordinate their driving will be more efficient. There will be fewer driving accidents and people will get where they are going faster. In the short term this sort of technology is more likely to be first actually used when it is limited to highway driving (which is comparatively simple) before it becomes useful for general driving. Unfortunately, it could take only a few bad accidents before people will start reacting strongly against automated systems even if the systems are safer than humans on average. This is sort of what we're seeing now already with nuclear power: the death toll from nuclear power is much smaller than coal, but nuclear power is treated as terrible because the accidents are rare and spectacular and involve a technology that is seen as novel, strange and unnatural.

    1. Re:A step in the right direction by DrEldarion · · Score: 2

      The real key will be getting insurance companies behind the new tech. If these cars truly are safer (and all evidence shows that they are), then insurers will love them (since they'll have to pay out fewer claims), and will be happy to ensure they succeed by lobbying whoever necessary.

    2. Re:A step in the right direction by William+Ager · · Score: 2

      The insurance company for the car company, most likely.

      It's likely, of course, that the costs of that insurance will be added into the price of the car, with car company's marketing department making the point that one would be paying a bit more for a car that resulted in paying vastly less for personal car insurance. It would have the added benefit of making car companies more worried about safety and accident prevention.

    3. Re:A step in the right direction by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2

      I think you underestimate the skill of the people designing these cars. I'm not an aggressive driver myself, and I've found that all you need to do when you're targeted is lift off the gas and let them get on their merry way. Plus the range of sensors means it can see the person 4 lanes over as he starts to go perpendicular to traffic to make his exit and start backing off way back then.

      Convincing people not to drive their own cars will probably take an entire generation. Once everyone who is alive today has passed on it will be mainstream, but everyone who's already driven will want to keep driving. Of course there will be pockets who educate their children that we used to drive our own cars and we should still be doing it, but we'll just laugh at them as though they're Amish.

    4. Re:A step in the right direction by rubeng · · Score: 2

      ...live drivers will target them, tailgating or cutting them off in ways the software can't compensate for.

      With all the sensors onboard watching in all directions, you'd think it'd be easy to keep the evidence of the other guy's stupidity. In the case of a crash you'd probably have all kinds or proof as to who was at fault. Maybe these cars should have a "report-an-asshole" button that sends data to the cops. Someone who gets pinged by that enough times would maybe get sent back to drivers training school. (someone who hit the button without good cause too many times would also get talked to)

      So maybe a live driver would have to be on better behavior around a robot car, knowing there's an unblinking eye recording exactly what's going on.

    5. Re:A step in the right direction by naoursla · · Score: 2

      And you will pay a lot more if you want to drive your car yourself. Once safety passes human ability, insurance companies are going to be the driving force behind adoption.

  5. Re:In Soviet Russia... by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 2

    As a current Nevada resident, I feel that driverless cars can only be an improvement from the massive influx of Californians escaping their debt-ridden state.

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  6. Dig the holes first by soundguy · · Score: 2

    Of course, before your driverless car goes out dumping bodies, you'll need a driverless backhoe to go out and dig the holes first.

    I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin' night.

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  7. First thing that comes to mind... by Burning1 · · Score: 2

    "Hello, I'm Johnny Cab. Where can I take you tonight?"

  8. Re:Driverless cars as verification testing by stinerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're a bit more keen on their chances than I am. People underestimate risks when they are in control.

    In 2009 there were 30,797 traffic-related fatalities in the USA. If we could cut that in half with self-driving cars that'd be amazingly good. But the public wouldn't go for it because now the machine is in control, so the risk is overestimated.

    How many stories would we see about "killer cars that account for 10,000 traffic deaths per year"? How many people wouldn't buy them because of how "unsafe" they are?

  9. Re:How much lower could speeds go? by QuasiEvil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually I'd agree. The average densely packed freeway moves at a rate and a following distance where pretty much the only choice in the event of anything bad happening is to plug the brakes. That causes a cascade effect, and you wind up with a slow spot that takes hours to dissipate. We need more space between vehicles and drivers trained to do something other than panic stop, or lower speeds to give people time to react more rationally. Or computerized drivers.

    Goddammit, I sound like a fucking eco-hippie. I'm a single guy with six cars, four of which are purely for fun, and I'm arguing for lower speed limits. Actually, I guess I'm arguing for better drivers.

    Personally, I wouldn't mind being able to hand control over to a computer in dense traffic, but I want control back when I exit onto surface roads or get out of congested freeway areas. I drive as much for the fun of it as to actually go anywhere.

  10. Re:I support this, especially in Nevada by Confusador · · Score: 2

    No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded?

    Kidding, I'm well aware that the only vehicles are the strip are taxis and non-locals who made a wrong turn. It'll be interesting to see whether taxi's are one of the first or last to get autodrivers.