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Telstra Fears LulzSec Attacks, Hesitates On Internet Filter

After the earlier report that some of Australia's largest telcos (and ISPs) were to start censoring internet traffic based on a blacklist, rdnetto writes with the news that "Telstra is now hesitating to deploy the internet filter it had previously promised to implement, fearing reprisals from online vigilantes." The linked article specifically names LulzSec as the source of such reprisals.

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  1. Article is false. by bbqsrc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Never trust News Corp. Here's some real journalism: http://delimiter.com.au/2011/06/25/telstra-proposes-to-filter-interpol-blacklist/

    Not that the real answer is any better than what the Australian said, but the truth is what matters.

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    1. Re:Article is false. by countertrolling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dig it:

      In addition, the age of children depicted through content on the sites must be younger than 13 years of age, or perceived to be less than 13.

      Nice little catchall there

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  2. FUD by Ja'Achan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Step 1: Create a scary and unspecific enemy
    Step 2: Give it some publicity
    Step 3: Demand funding and protection based on speculation ('Maybe someone might attack us! Think of the children!')
    Step 4: Profit! And power, too.

    Looks like it still works.

  3. Congratulations Lulzsec by bky1701 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have already done more to protect the rights of common people than most governments in the world have in years.

    This really makes you wonder how a shadowy group of people on the internet have more influence than elected officials and regulatory boards. Of course, I guess that's because they have completely different goals... we are possibly seeing the dawn of a new world here.

    1. Re:Congratulations Lulzsec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't encourage these people.

      Don't tell someone what ideals they can and can't support... Lest you want to be labeled a Fascist. There's a lot of dolts on the Internet, and they're paying the price now for using the same password at 100 websites.
      I'm enjoying the show, to be honest. LulzSec haven't harmed anyone yet, and they've obviously got quite the audience. While only 270Kish twitter followers, I'm sure there's many more lurking it who don't use twitter that are following the story.

      Now, because of LulzSec, for the first time a western government is fearing a backlash on their stance on Internet censorship.
      That's a good thing in my book. /popcorn

    2. Re:Congratulations Lulzsec by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Y'know, in terms of 'collateral damage per unit freedom', Lulzsec is still doing pretty well...

    3. Re:Congratulations Lulzsec by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You have already done more to protect the rights of common people than most governments in the world have in years.

      The average Western government each allows tens of millions of people to enjoy basic freedoms under the rule of law with a reasonably impartial justice system. By the standards of perfection, everywhere is awful; by contrast with justice in many places 40 (Spain, if you're gay?), 50 (Southern US, if you're black?) or 200 (Britain or France, if you're poor and steal a loaf of bread?) years ago, governments are in some areas doing really well. And if we spend a moment imagining ourselves as a chattel-wife in Saudi Arabia for a moment or held at gunpoint for everything around us in Somalia, suddenly that horrible rights-denying US doesn't seem so bad.

      It's clear that things have been getting worse over the past 30 years in the West. It's clear that we could demand and do a lot better. It's also clear that lulzsec's civil disobedience is having some sort of effect, although it's not quite clear how it'll play out (maybe it'll just be used as an excuse to impose more stringent anti-terror[tm] laws on the Internet?). But, when compared with history and the world in general, protecting the rights of common people is something your government almost certainly does more of every day than lulzsec. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water, even if the baby is sick.

    4. Re:Congratulations Lulzsec by bky1701 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Don't tell me what I should encourage.

      Lulzsec is just another part of a bigger cultural shift (wikileaks and "anonymous" as well) away from servitude into actual civil awareness. Yes, they quite often catch people in the cross-fire. Yes, they often act without any real goals, just to humiliate. However, they serve a role that has long since been shrugged off by people around the world, that of an actual opposition to the status quo.

      I'm not an anarchist, but there is something poetic about a group of sarcastic hackers achieving what people want better than their government.

      If I were you, I'd get used to it, because people are tired of the corruption. If it takes people like Lulzsec to actually get something done, so be it. There is a time for everything and the time for quiet obedience is past.

    5. Re:Congratulations Lulzsec by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't encourage these people. They might be attacking some organizations that we all hate. But at the same time, they attack legitimate organizations just for the kick.

      I can't tell, are you talking about LulzSec or the government?

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  4. There's now... by taktoa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... a chilling effect on censorship

  5. Who gets to say what's on the list? by kawabago · · Score: 5, Informative

    Our local resource center for our less affluent residents provides free internet access. It is supposed to have a filter for porn, only porn. Someone asked me to help them find information on medical marijuana and it was blocked by the filter. It wasn't porn but it was blocked. I asked the manager what else is being blocked? They didn't know. They didn't know how to change it either. I just hope no one dies because of that filter. Filter's always filter out more than they are supposed to, including legitimate political dissent. How free is your country if the government can control what you see, hear and read?

  6. Re:Nice? by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And censorship never ends well either.

    Too much "protection" and you have a totalitarian regime.

    If you want to take out crime - do it at the source or check the cause for the crime first. Strangling the internet is like shooting the messenger.

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  7. Re:Oh Evil Telstra... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would argue that any decision made based in immediate fear is not really the right decision; even if the decision has a positive outcome, it was made it for the wrong reasons and is therefore not representative of any particular notion of "right." No lesson was learned, and any future decisions are unaffected. This is only effective if fear can be maintained indefinitely, which is nearly impossible. It's indistinguishable, in the long run, to a step backward.

  8. Re:Nice? by airfoobar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure, but that doesn't look like an overly hyperbolic statement. In a sense, it's the very definition of totalitarianism.

  9. Re:Conflicted by countertrolling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Conformity is the objective in most places.. Critical thinking is an anathema.. The fact is that government is a creation of those with the most capital, so naturally they will set the agenda to suit their needs

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  10. Re:Nice? by xero314 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Shouldn't be too difficult to rearrange the worlds wealth equally, distribute the workload evenly to the populace, remove humans innate competitiveness, get rid of all people that are insane / have no self control, control the crazy teenagers and rewrite the rules of most societies. Lets get to work on that....

    The people in the advanced countries now face a choice: we can express justified horror, or we can seek to understand what may have led to the crimes. If we refuse to do the latter, we will be contributing to the likelihood that much worse lies ahead. - Noam Chomsky

    The issues you raise are solvable, and each one has been addressed at some point in some culture (except competitiveness but that would be foolish to remove), we just need to be willing to look at the cause.