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Is There a Formula For a Hit Song?

moveoverrover writes "What happens when two Rutgers grad students analyze 50 years of Billboard Top 10 hits with MIT offshoot Echo Nest's API and turn the data into visualizations for an assignment? Great looking visualizations for one, and a fascinating look at 50 years of Pop music at the data level. Posing the question, 'Is there a formula for a hit song?' the students write, 'What if we knew, for example, that 80% of the Billboard Hot 100 number one singles from 1960-2010 are sung in a major key with an average of 135 beats per minute, that they all follow a I-III-IV chord progression in 4/4 time signature, and that they all follow a "verse-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus" sequence structure?' Using data extracted by Echo Nest on tempo, duration, time signature, musical key, as well as subjective criteria like "energy" and "danceability," the pair generated a number of visualizations with Google Motion Charts (warning: slow) and '(some) Tableau Results' for everyone to see and investigate. Curious about tempo and song duration trends in Pop music over 50 years? Correlation between record label and song tempo? Download the core data, the Tableau reader and look at it any way you want."

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  1. R&B Hit Generator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    R&B has a clearly worked out hit formula:
    http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4185/rnbcreator2tf9.jpg

    Might be applicable to other styles such as pop, trance, rock...

    1. Re:R&B Hit Generator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some time back I wrote a lyrics generator inspired by Destiny's Child. It didn't have nearly enough strings to draw from, and I never got around to setting up proper weighting for the various phrases, but it was definitely producing authentic Destiny's child gibberish. Here's an example:

      I gon' trippin'!
      I gon' frontin'?
      you's actin' and you's actin'!
      Nine out of ten cat owners are trippin' as You been doing playin'!
      Why I see you movin'.

      you's trippin' 'n' I gon' actin'?
      Girls be like knowin'?
      I lookin' that to' be braggin' but Keynesian Theory makin' me think You been doing knowin'.
      Shell restated their 2005 financial results cuz they be keepin' it real as We actin'?

      I gon' playin'.
      I gon' frontin' but Keynesian Theory makin' me think Why you thinkin' 'bout playin'.
      I trippin'.
      U frontin'?
      I trippin'.

      you's trippin' 'n' I gon' actin'?
      Girls be like knowin'?
      I lookin' that to' be braggin' but Keynesian Theory makin' me think You been doing knowin'.
      Shell restated their 2005 financial results cuz they be keepin' it real as We actin'?

      better da street if he be actin'?
      Thems knowin'!
      I gon' actin'!
      I actin'.
      I be knowin' U be braggin'!

      you's trippin' 'n' I gon' actin'?
      Girls be like knowin'?
      I lookin' that to' be braggin' but Keynesian Theory makin' me think You been doing knowin'.
      Shell restated their 2005 financial results cuz they be keepin' it real as We actin'?

  2. Axis of Awesome by jonas_haase · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here is the entertaining version of this important discovery:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

    --
    bad spellers of the world UNTIE
  3. Re:Correlation and causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hey there, I'm one of the authors of this study... the media picked this up and is sensationalizing the study. You are absolutely correct that we need to look at the misses too (in the form of a control group) to make any statistical correlations, which is what we are currently working on. What we did was simply make some observations of descriptive metadata using visualization tools. They have blown this way out of proportion by mistaking our hypothetical opening paragraph as the results of the study.

  4. I-III-IV? by jfengel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Something from the summary really irked me: I doubt they'd find that the best songs use a I-III-IV progression. Pop songs practically all start with a I-IV-V progression. (Remember the lyrics to Hallelujah? "It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth...")

    When the III is used, it's usually minor, though the minor vi is more common ("The minor fall.."). The I-vi-IV-V sequence has been the basis of rock and pop since the 50s. Learn those four chords, and you can play practically any top 40 hit. (You know the guy complaining about Pachelbel's Canon? Most of them are really just using the I-vi-IV-V, which happens to mesh nicely with Pachelbel's real progression: I-V-vi-iii-IV-I-IV-V.)

    So I checked their data and discovered... nothing. Nowhere in their data do they talk about chord progressions. That's not really surprising, since figuring out the chord progressions is much trickier than figuring out the tempo. But they mention it in the summary. Why?

    Because that progression is so universal, of course you'd see it in the top 40 hits. You're also going to see it in the songs you've never heard of. If they really had found that I-III-IV was a frequent hit, they'd actually have learned something.

    This wasn't really intended as news. It's old stuff with new visualization applied. It's a student exercise passed off as research by people who don't actually know the state of the art, like the stories about "Students build 9,000 mpg car; why can't Detroit do that?"

    It just irks me that they're talking a little music theory and betraying their lack of understanding of music theory in the process. What I've just talked about is something every, EVERY musician knows.