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Company Fined €25,000 For Altering Wikipedia

hcs_$reboot writes "A French court ordered a company to pay 25,000 Euros to a competitor about which she had removed the name of a Wikipedia entry dedicated to her field. Hi-Media, the defendant, was identified thanks to her IP address found from the Wikipedia page."

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  1. Re:Horribly Summary by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sounds like Hi-Media specialized in field A. On Wikipedia page for Field A, Competitor B was mentioned. Someone at Hi-Media edited the Wikipedia page for Field A to remove all references to Competitor B. And I assume it was sanctioned by Hi-Media if they're getting in trouble for it

  2. Wikipedia admins beware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we can sue you for recommending our pages for speedy deletion. Take that!

  3. Re:So Wikipedia is a marketing website now? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since when is Wikipedia an appropriate place to advertise?

    Since Jimbo needed money?

  4. Attempted summary by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 3, Informative

    My French is rather rusty... but here's a go:

    A company (A) had removed the name of their competitor (B) form the (French) Wikipedia article on Micropayments. Thanks to Wikipedia's logs the company who had their name removed (B) was able to identify the culprit as their competitor (A) and sued, successfully claiming 25,000 € in damages.

    French natives, please correct me if I'm misreading here. :)

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    1. Re:Attempted summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I dropped out of this conversation on account of AC being insane. He/she would frequently burst into rants about his/her high school French teacher being insane.

  5. Re:What???? by erroneus · · Score: 5, Informative

    The triviality of an act does not mean it is trivial. For some people, it is trivial to steal a car. With a nice repo-man's tow truck, I can steal cars REALLY fast and it doesn't even require lock picking skillz. In fact, the relative ease in which a bladed instrument can be plunged into the heart of another human should be an even more dramatic example of something that is trivial to perform but is not trivial in nature.

    So when one company sets out to limit the exposure of another, this is trivial to do on wikipedia, but it is, in truth, anti-competitive behavior and should be punished fiercely. You can stack all kinds of ridiculous technological measures out there, but the party(s) involved already knew it was wrong and should have known it might even be criminal.

    In short, the idea that it's not "so" wrong because it's too easy is kinda weak.

  6. Re:Horribly Summary by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Correct. The field in question is micropayments. Hi-Media and Rentabiliweb are both companies that handle micropayments. The French Wikipedia page for Micropayments used to list both companies. Someone from Hi-Media edited the page, and deleted the name of Rentabiliweb. Court found in favour of Rentabiliweb for 25,000 euros (roughly $36,000). Edit logs from Wikipedia and reverse DNS was the main evidence.

  7. Re:Horribly Summary by smitty97 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Were they forced to make 5 million payments of 0.005 euros each?

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  8. Re:But do you have a right to be in a WP article? by improfane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Has nothing to do with Wikipedia per se. That's not the fundamental issue.

    Someone censored or supressed what was or is for selfish gain. It's wrong.

    That's the anti-competitive act.

    It's like me hiding your painting in a gallery so people buy mine rather than yours.

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  9. Re:Horribly Summary by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anglophones really hate using "it" to refer to people, thus you end up with "he/she needs to eat his/her food", instead of "it needs to eat its food"

    Most Americans use "they" instead of he/she, since he-she is sometimes used to refer to a transvestite. It's odd when you stop to think about using a plural for a singular pronoun of indeterminant gender, but it's better than it or he/she.