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Renewable Energy Production Surpasses Nuclear In the US

mdsolar writes "Renewable energy production has surpassed nuclear energy production in the U.S. according to the latest issue of Monthly Energy Review (PDF) published by the Energy Information Administration. ... During the first three months of 2011, energy produced from renewable energy sources (biomass/biofuels, geothermal, solar, hydro, wind) generated 2.245 quadrillion Btus of energy equating to 11.73 percent of U.S. energy production. During this same time period, renewable energy production surpassed nuclear energy power by 5.65 percent. In total, energy produced from renewables is 77.15 percent of that from domestic crude oil production."

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  1. That's really ironic by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since solar-caused skin cancer kills more people every year than leaks from nuclear energy plants does.

    1. Re:That's really ironic by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny
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  2. Re:Cost? by maxume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It just includes installed hydroelectric.

    There ain't more big rivers.

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  3. Hydro? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hydroelectric has been a big part of the US electric grid for the better part of a century now (Roll on, Columbia roll on). I realize it's "renewable", but lumping it in with the newer renewables (biodiesel, wind, et. al.) - the electric production of which is miniscule compared to that of hydro - and then pretending it's us making strides towards a great green future is a tad misleading.

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    1. Re:Hydro? by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      Note that they are also lumping in ethanol, which has already been shown to require more fossil fuel to produce that it can replace (or close to it, depending on the way it's calculated. And ethanol is 10% of all the fuel in all the cars, and is heavily supported by subsidies, so it's not only inefficient, but can't even pay for itself.

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  4. Re:So then. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can basically say renewable energy fsckin works, now ?

    Of course it works. The open question is, "can it scale?"

    Good luck tripling the amount of hydro or getting woodstoves into cities.

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  5. Great, but ... by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This sounds like great news for renewable energy buffs, except for one thing: if you're thinking this represents a success by high tech new power sources like wind, solar, etc., you're wrong.

    The two biggest components of "renewable energy" in EIA's report are hydroelectric dams and biomass -- the biomass sector is mostly industrial wood and paper plants which run on waste wood, plus people using wood-fired stoves at home. Good for them, but it's not exactly high tech.

    In 1990, before the wind-and-solar revolution, things broke down this way:
    Nuclear: 6.1 exajoules
    Hydro+biomass: 5.7 EJ
    Wind+solar: .09 EJ

    In 2000:
    Nuclear: 7.8 EJ
    Hydro+biomass: 5.8 EJ
    Wind+solar: 0.12 EJ

    In 2010:
    Nuclear: 8.4 EJ
    Hydro+biomass: 6.8 EJ
    Wind+solar: 1.03 EJ

    Or to put it another way: The "wind and solar revolution" that's taken place in the past 20 years now produces 1 EJ of energy per year. The nuclear power industry has managed to increase output by *twice* as much, without building a single new power plant, just running existing plants a little harder.

    This isn't intended to support nuclear power or to knock renewables. My only point is that wind and solar are much less significant than people on both sides of the debate think they are, and if we intend to use them as serious industrial power sources, we're going to have to start building them in a serious industrial way. What we're doing now is making a mountain out of a molehill.

  6. Re:So then. by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 5, Informative

    It also requires a massive amount of salt. Sodium thiosulfate, one of the favored salts for thermal energy storage due to low cost, practical melting point, high heat of fusion, and low toxicity, takes over one ton to store the energy required by the average household for one day. You can reuse it each day, of course, but that's still a buttload of salt for just one city.

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  7. Re:So then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    PROTIP: Operation DESERTEC.

    Yes, it does scale. And with 400 km^2 of CSP we can power the entire world. (Including nighttime through hydroelectric pumped-storage and winters.)
    (Connected with high-voltage DC lines to minimize losses btw.)

    To be honest, I think this project is awesome. Cheap, simple, elegant, easy to repair, only made of abundant and recyclable materials, never (well, not in any imaginable time frame) running out energy source... It's hard to imagine a better solution.

    And the best part: The mirrors allow water from the air to condense on them, moisturizing the ground below, which creates a whole flora and fauna thriving on it. So it's not only neutral to nature, but has a positive effect.

    P.S.: I have nothing against nuclear power, and know pretty well how it works. I don't think it's bad. I just think this is so much better! :)

  8. Re:Growth in nuclear is really prior waste. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not exactly. Since TMI, domestic construction of new nuclear power plants has ground to a halt here in the US. Since building a new plant hasn't been politically feasible, operators have learned how to squeeze every joule out of the existing fleet. Steam generator upgrades and thermal power uprates have increased the fleet's output substantially. Taking fuel to higher burnups through better in-core fuel management has allowed operators to squeeze a bit more energy from the fuel bundles. But mostly, plant operators have pretty much perfected the art of running a light water reactor. Capacity factors (the percent of time that the plant is operating and generating power) averaged around 75% or so in the US back in the 1970s. Last year it was more like 91%. That's like getting a few reactors "for free."

    It's not that operators in the 1970s were incompetent, it's that we've been continuously raising the performance bar. Par for the course is 90%+ capacity factors these days -- totally unheard of, and deemed impossible back then.