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Law Enforcement Still Wants Mandatory ISP Log Retention

Posted by Soulskill on from the they-know-how-often-you-google-bieber dept.

schwit1 writes with this snippet from CNet: "Law enforcement representatives are planning to endorse a proposed federal law that would require Internet service providers to store logs about their customers for 18 months. ... Michael Brown, sheriff in Bedford County, Va., and a board member and executive committee member of the National Sheriffs' Association, is planning to argue that a new law is necessary because Internet providers do not store customer records long enough. 'The limited data retention time and lack of uniformity among retention from company to company significantly hinders law enforcement's ability to identify predators when they come across child pornography,' according to a copy of Brown's remarks. Any stored logs could, however, be used to prosecute any type of crime."

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  1. And there it is... by sconeu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    hinders law enforcement's ability to identify predators when they come across child pornography

    The root password to the Constitution.

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  2. Law Enforcement Tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why don't they mandate the city keep garbage for 6 months, so it can be used to prosecute poeple?

  3. Would You Want To Be Followed Everywhere? by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would you want the government following you everywhere, taking notes of everything you do, all with the intent that they can later prosecute you for pretty much anything that they can come up with? And this extends to private companies and interests who should never have access to such data (RIAA, MPAA) now able to get it through the courts because it now exists in the first place? That's what this is all about.

    It becomes an argument for anonymous browsing on everything you do, until they figure out how to either track, or ban, that too.

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  4. It's ALWAYS about child pornography by euroq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every time there is a push to reduce our privacy rights online, it's ALWAYS in the guise of child pornography. I mean seriously, how serious of a problem is it? Why does law enforcement need to know I go to slashdot.com daily or watch porn every other day? Why don't they just store data for child pornography sites?

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    1. Re:It's ALWAYS about child pornography by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Anybody who questions the seriousness of child pornography is probably a baby-raper, or a communist. True fact.

    2. Re:It's ALWAYS about child pornography by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Every time there is a push to reduce our privacy rights online, it's ALWAYS in the guise of child pornography. I mean seriously, how serious of a problem is it? Why does law enforcement need to know I go to slashdot.com daily or watch porn every other day? Why don't they just store data for child pornography sites?

      See, I would phrase that as "So law enforcement is saying they are incompetent and utter failures at actually preventing children from being exploited in the production of child porn?" or "Why isn't law enforcement going after the source of this scourge?" or "Is Michael Brown, sheriff in Bedford County, Va., and a board member and executive committee member of the National Sheriffs' Association turning a blind eye to the production of child porn?"

      Not because it's true, or those questions are at all logical, but because you need to fight fire with fire. Seriously. Someone should write an opinion piece and go on Fox news and say "By taking this route, Michael Brown, sheriff in Bedford County, Va., and a board member and executive committee member of the National Sheriffs' Association is essentially giving up on child molesters. This government intrusion into internet providers' business does nothing to stop children from being sexually exploited. It is his job to stop children from being sexually exploited, not tell small businesses how to to run themselves. This will only increase internet fees and cost American jobs, and will do nothing to stop child molesters from murdering your children."

      Maybe tighten that up a little. It's a fine line between the type of crazy that those people believe and the type of crazy that even those people realize is crazy.

  5. Cool, let's make new law enforcement rules by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. All speed traps are video recorded and offer the ability to clock the car with a stopwatch to verify it was actually speeding. Sort of like reverse VASCAR.

    2. Every interaction with a police officer will be recorded with video and audio--they're doing this in Burnsville, MN. Thing is we need to have these videos recorded to WORM discs and those need to be made available to the public in every single situation without charge.

    3. Anytime a law enforcement officer tells a lie to scare someone they can be sued.

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    I could continue but it's pointless. It's easier for the ISPs to simply tell them 'no'.

  6. Discount by mbone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Any security claim that is solely motivated by child pornography I regard as bogus. Been to that well a few too many times.

  7. Yeah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Law Enforcement Still Wants Mandatory ISP Log Retention

    Yeah? And I still want every law enforcement officer perpetually monitored and recorded to prevent abuse of power ect. Yet, they're still fighting simply being recorded.