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Wired Releases Full Manning/Lamo Chat Logs
bill_mcgonigle writes "After more than a year, Wired has finally released the (nearly) full chat logs between Adrian Lamo and Bradley Manning. Glen Greenwald provides analysis of what Wired previously left out. Greenwald writes: 'Lamo lied to and manipulated Manning by promising him the legal protections of a journalist-source and priest-penitent relationship, and independently assured him that their discussions were "never to be published" and were not "for print." Knowing this, Wired hid from the public this part of their exchange, published the chat in violation of Lamo's clear not-for-publication pledges, allowed Lamo to be quoted repeatedly in the media over the next year as some sort of credible and trustworthy source driving reporting on the Manning case.'"
Wired just lost all credibility for journalistic integrity. Don't expect anyone to talk to them off-the-record now. I wouldn't be surprised if advertisers pulled their ads too, just like they did with the News of the World when the full extent of the hacking scandal came to light. Within days the paper was shut down for good.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The oath that one takes when enlisting is:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Very early on Lamo states that his ex is/was a 97B That is Counterintelligence, not the 97E/35M that Manning thought it was be. Lamo was smart, he hinted very early that he had connections to Army Counterintelligence and Manning drove on, so Lamo fed him the BS to let the punk hang himself.
/. children claim, there is nothing heroic or noble about what manning did. He leaked our nations secrets, that's espionage, he did it while we are at war (even if undeclared) in two nations, that's treason. And he should face the full penalty. We have no right to those classified documents. The existence of secrets != the existence of wrong doing. Nations have secrets to enable diplomats to converse with each other and to aid negotiations. The Military has secrets because we don't want the enemy to know exactly what we plan on doing next. Nowhere is there any promise or statement that says every single bit of information collected by or created by the government belongs and should be open to the people. Any such government would be used and abused by the nations of the world, it would be unable to have any military successes as the enemies of that country would always know exactly what it was targeting and how it was planning to attack.
Good on Lamo, manning is a traitor, despite what the
Manning is a Traitor, Lamo may have his past history of criminal acts, but in this case he is the real Hero.
However it DID show a lot of reprehensible behavior on the part of the US government,
Not just reprehensible. Illegal.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
The military is not a Constitution-free zone: The UCMJ actually makes it quite clear that they're implementing the same rules, just within a military structure.
For instance, since he's military, his trial may be in front of a court-martial, rather than in front of a civilian judge. Similarly, his right to counsel may be fulfilled by JAG rather than a civilian attorney. There are limits within military law on what a commander can do to punish somebody under their command (e.g. your CO can't just shoot you without repercussions).
You can read the UCMJ for yourself if you don't believe me:
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm
I am officially gone from
FTFA:
That sure sounds like a fucking solemn oath to me.
... they contain a significant amount of important information.
1) Lamo stated the he was a journalist and a priest, so the chat logs would be secret.
2) They further show Manning's intent for releasing the documents.
3) Julian Assange had very limited communications with Manning in an effort to protect his sources.
4) Manning wasn't simply a low level employee as the government has tried to portray. He had direct communications with high level officials.
5) Wired misled the public by concealing this information for a year and allowed Lamo and others to spread lies about Manning.
But yeah, besides all that, there is nothing new or revealing.