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Marooned Off Vesta

mcgrew writes with this quote from an AP report: "After four years sailing through space, the Dawn spacecraft was expected to slip into orbit late Friday around a giant asteroid to begin a yearlong investigation into the origins of the solar system. It is the first of two scheduled tour stops for the NASA probe that almost never made it to the launch pad. Because of its stunted growth, Vesta holds 'a record of the earliest history of the solar system,' said the mission's lead scientist Christopher Russell of the University of California, Los Angeles." Dawn's mission homepage has all the information and pictures collected so far. On July 9th, it snapped our best look to date at the ~530-kilometer-wide Vesta, from 40,000 kilometers away. When it arrives, it will take observations from successively lower orbits, the final one being only 460km above Vesta's surface. Next May, Dawn will break orbit and head to Ceres. (mcgrew adds, "The submission's title is a nod to Isaac Asimov. Lets hope Dawn doesn't get marooned!")

55 comments

  1. Wow by spacenut1 · · Score: -1, Troll

    First pictures of the vesta as the spacecraft approaches!

    1. Re:Wow by creat3d · · Score: 0

      I'm just curious what gratification you get from this... do you jerk off to your hit counter?

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    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Click on that dudes link if you want to be both trolled and disgusted.

    3. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      So now you're pretty pathetic, as you actually wasted a considerable amount of time to sign up for three different accounts to post a fucking goatse link. I mean, I get it, I troll too, there's some enjoyment to be had there, but there's a limit to how much time you can invest into it before you're just a sad, pathetic waste of a human being.

    4. Re:Wow by FrankSchwab · · Score: 0

      What an ass.

      Warning: Unpleasant picture in the link.

      That's what I get for browsing at 1, I guess.

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    5. Re:Wow by spacenut7 · · Score: -1

      So now you're pretty pathetic, as you actually wasted a considerable amount of time to sign up for three different accounts to post a fucking goatse link. I mean, I get it, I troll too, there's some enjoyment to be had there, but there's a limit to how much time you can invest into it before you're just a sad, pathetic waste of a human being.

      Its not a hard thing to create new accounts, my python script does that for me. I only enter the nick and capcha, and in a second new account is in clipboard.
      Then only tree days of trolling this link got me 1700 victims.

      In addition to that I am going to update that script a lot, add posting from within it, create a pool of accounts to preload it once manually and let it switch accounts, also automate IP switching when I am banned (I have dynamic IP mhaaa....), watch for comments and repost then automatically when they are modded down, notify me of victim rate, etc. Lot of work, but at least with current python script, it saves me a lot of work and makes trolling pleasant, so it worth every second of these 2 days I spent on it.

      I troll usually about 1~2 hours during time I would waste otherwise. I mean what better: watch a (usually) ass suck movie than to make ~200 slashdotters hate you.
      Also food served here is quite good. Every day I get 2~3 comments I laugh my ass off.

      I keep a list of these comments, and post it here time form time:

      Funny:
      "What an ass. Warning: Unpleasant picture in the link. That's what I get for browsing at 1, I guess."
      "I'm just curious what gratification you get from this... do you jerk off to your hit counter?"
      "O neat, you quoted me! Now I have to ask, why do you do this? seriously whats the motivation?"
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      "Not gonna click it to find out, but I'd be surprised if parent's link wasn't goatse... It appears you would be correct sir. Why oh why do I always forget..."
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      "I tried to post warnings about the goaste loving jerk yesterday but was modded into oblivion as a karma whore"
      "Posting your picture online again?", "Really? Are you not tired of this yet?"
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      "Can you not afford normal entertainment?" "This is grown up talk, 4chan is that way ->"
      "Oops. goatse link" - "The AC speaks truth! (Well I didn't let it finish loading, but the browser was connecting to goatse.ru...)"
      "He likes his urinal cakes nice and sudsy, so he tries to piss us off."
      "Link is Goatse" - "Thanks. Does nerd soccer attract nerd hooligans?"
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      Hate:
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      "I hate your guts.", "WTF you fucking asshole.", "Fucking troll, do not click there"
      "I hope you die

    6. Re:Wow by wagnerrp · · Score: 1

      The amusing bit is that is spacenut7. He's already trolled the exact same message on this same story using spacenut1-6.

    7. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't post it multiple times- you'll get modded redundant!

    8. Re:Wow by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      Troll warning: link in the above post is (probably) Goatse.

    9. Re:Wow by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      Persistent on this story, just in case you didn't see one of the above posts, don't click on the link in parent it's Goatse (or something similar,)

    10. Re:Wow by cptdondo · · Score: 0

      Wow dude, and this makes you feel worthwhile? It must really suck living in your grandma's basement.

      Why don't you get out and try to do something worthwhile with your life?

    11. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL. I haven't laughed at something like this since... shit. What was that? George of the Jungle? That type of funny where it's so ridiculously stupid that you just can't help but laugh out of nothing other than sympathy for the poor soul who has to come up with this shit. Tell your supervising adults (which obviously you do have, right?) that they need to give you some new toy to play with. You're getting too bored with the ones that you have. Maybe try... oh, I don't know. Here's a link to look at and get some ideas: http://besttoysguide.com/top-toys-for-babies

  2. So, Dawn is Marooned Off Vesta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  3. The titled seems overly negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I read it and thought "Oh sh*t!" (including the "*", I tend to censor my thoughts that way.)

    1. Re:The titled seems overly negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first glance reading was "marooned in Vista" - "Oh sh*t" is right.

    2. Re:The titled seems overly negative by avandesande · · Score: 1

      My first thought was what is this trans-vesta spacecraft wearing?

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  4. Wow by spacenut2 · · Score: -1, Troll

    First pictures of the vesta as the spacecraft approaches!

  5. They are going to be disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should have targeted the Wendows 7 asteroid.

  6. In standard distance units. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:In standard distance units. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, 530 km = 330 miles. Any further precision is irrelevant and misleading.

    2. Re:In standard distance units. by camperdave · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice try. Miles are defined in terms of metres, making metres the standard distance unit.

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    3. Re:In standard distance units. by bhcompy · · Score: 2

      imperial is sometimes called standard... GP didn't say "the standard".. durrr

    4. Re:In standard distance units. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or 329 miles, depending on convention.

      This is why you should always use exponential notation, so you can tell 5.3E5 km from 5.30E5 km...

  7. Wow by spacenut3 · · Score: -1, Troll

    First pictures of the vesta as the spacecraft approaches!

  8. Marooned??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    maroon 2
    verb [ trans. ] (often be marooned)
    leave (someone) trapped and isolated in an inaccessible place, esp. an island : a novel about schoolboys marooned on a desert island.

    Yeah, so where is the part about Dawn being trapped???

  9. Someone smack the artist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why is it that an artist rendition done in the name of science is so poorly done? You get the impression that there are big chunks of rock floating every couple of miles/kilometeres in space. This is one reason why we can't get kids straight about science... and this is approved by the scientists!

  10. Wow by spacenut4 · · Score: -1, Troll

    First pictures of the vesta dwarf planet as the spacecraft approaches!

  11. Framing Camera Runs RTEMS by joelsherrill · · Score: 4, Informative

    The pictures that are being shown like this one (http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/dawn_vesta_image_070911.asp) are from the Framing Camera. It is using the free RTOS RTEMS (http://www.rtems.org) and using a space hardened SPARC V7. It was launched in September 2007. Congratulations to all the people involved!!

  12. Isaac Isamov did it first by RCC42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just in case anyone wanted to know 'Marooned off Vesta' was the title of Isaac Isamov's first published (short) story. As I remember it was fairly good.

    1. Re:Isaac Isamov did it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to not RTFS! - There's even a link to the wikipedia article on Asimov's story.

  13. Wow, by spacenut6 · · Score: -1, Troll

    First pictures of the vesta as the spacecraft approaches!

  14. Past Tense by c++0xFF · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The combination of the submission title and the quote being in past tense ("After four years sailing through space, the Dawn spacecraft was expected to slip into orbit late Friday around a giant asteroid...") made me think something went wrong!

    Here's hoping all goes well!

    1. Re:Past Tense by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Well, that was Asimov's first published title and I've been an Asimov fan for half a century. Should I have titled the submission The Robot of Dawn?

  15. Interesting real estate for aliens by MetricT · · Score: 1

    I've often thought that if I were an alien intent on long-term observation of the solar system, I'd plant myself on either Vesta or (more likely) Ceres due to abundant construction material and (on Ceres) ice to crack to fuel, just enough gravity well to keep things from floating off, and just far enough away that you don't have to worry about the savages until they (hopefully) grow up.

    Yeah I know, it would be one of those one in a million sort of things, but a nerd can dream.

    1. Re:Interesting real estate for aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are those gooves there? Did ET strip mine for ice?

    2. Re:Interesting real estate for aliens by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Its funny because the same grooves are on other small bodies like the moons of Mars, however these grooves scale with the size of the asteroid. Its like objects like this have grooves on different scales so if you look very close you will still see grooves. I think they are likely caused by rolling rocks. In the light gravity rocks will bounce along the surface, touching down every revolution or so and leaving a crater in the soft surface.

    3. Re:Interesting real estate for aliens by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Not sure about the ample gravity, a 200 pound man would weight four pounds. A sneeze might be enough to escape its gravity. Ceres, otoh, would be better (Dawn visits Ceres next).;

  16. Wow by spacenut7 · · Score: -1, Troll

    First pictures of the vesta as the spacecraft approaches!

  17. Misleading title, a-- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I don't care if the name of the post is a nod to Asimov, it is completely misleading. As one of those who has been following this story, I saw your headline and suddenly was shocked at the possibility that there was some communication error or another problem that would cause the craft to actually be marooned. Well, you got your pageclick. I hope the added revenue of a misleading title is worth the loss in credibility to the website.

    1. Re:Misleading title, a-- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I nominate this person to be the first astronaut, "Marooned off Vesta."

  18. What's the problem? by JockTroll · · Score: 1

    Get into a spacesuit, walk to the water tanks and shoot them with a raygun. That will give you enough trust to land on Vesta. Gravity there isn't strong enough to crush a cookie. Here. Was it that hard, loserboy nerd? As soon as we make landfall, I'll shove your head down the last working toilet on the Silver Queen.

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  19. he missed the mark by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    he should have registered as spacenutter1 - 6 and then he could troll while he's trolling and Xhibit would come out to hand him the keys

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  20. Asimov Homage Story Link by cosm · · Score: 3, Informative
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    1. Re:Asimov Homage Story Link by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Whoa! I just DLed that and it looks legit. Is it legal or a pirate copy? Karma whore or not, somebody mod parent up!

    2. Re:Asimov Homage Story Link by cosm · · Score: 1

      Just came up on Google when I searched for filetype:pdf. I guess ICE should seize Google's servers now :). Like your sig BTW. Stranger in a Strange land is one of my favorites of all time.

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    3. Re:Asimov Homage Story Link by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Our Fair City is a really funny short silly story (fantasy more than sci-fi) lampooning political corruption. It's in his collection 6xH. Haven't read Stranger in decades, someone borrowed my copy and I never got it back. Heinlein was another of my all-time favorites, although I think I enjoyed his stuff a lot more when I was young. Asimov's still my favorite, but these days Pratchett's my 2nd favorite even though I'm not really into fantasy; the guy's books are hilarious.

    4. Re:Asimov Homage Story Link by cosm · · Score: 1

      I'll definitely check it out, thanks!

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  21. Credit where credit is due by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

    /. editors get a lot of flak (and I'm guilty myself sometimes), but I have to point out that the summary is far superior to what I submitted. Soulskill not only added relevant copy, but he also added all the links except the one to TFA. He did more work than I on it, and I'm pleased with what he did. Good job, sir!

    The nod to Asimov was for two reasons. First, I've been a rabid Asimov fan for half a century, and second, the Dawn spacecraft is man's first visit to Vesta, and Marooned off Vesta was Asimov's first published story.

    I see only 27 comments have been posted, and I hope the title isn't the reason for the lack of commentary, with people thinking it's some of my bad sci-fi.

    1. Re:Credit where credit is due by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      I was afraid something went wrong with the orbit injection and we lost Dawn. I was very relieved when I went to the mission homepage and found that was not the case. The title and the word, "expected," in the summary almost ruined my Friday.

    2. Re:Credit where credit is due by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      There's nothing wrong with the headline, it's not your fault that a bunch of slashdotters failed their poetic license test.

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  22. Now for the toast by Dr+Fro · · Score: 1

    I give you our million-dollar NASA probe we used to have!

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    1. Re:Now for the toast by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      Um, you might want to read more than the headline before posting. Dawn is alive and well; the title was a nod to my favorite writer, a science fiction writer who was also a scientist (PhD in biochemistry, did cancer research and taught at Boston University before dying of AIDS).

      Dawn's next stop - Ceres! (the second story Asimov wrote and the oldest still existing).

    2. Re:Now for the toast by Dr+Fro · · Score: 1

      The last line in "Marooned off Vesta" is "I give you the year's supply of water we used to have."

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  23. Dawn Images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, the Dawn website does not have all the pictures collected so far. It only has the images that the project scientists are willing to let the public see. Most of the images from Dawn have not been released. Unlike the Cassini project, which posts all their images promptly as they are received, the Dawn project has adopted a policy of releasing only one image per week during the approach to Vesta. For example, on July 1 Dawn was scheduled to perform a "rotation characterization", taking images throughout a Vestian day in order to view the asteroid from all sides. But only one image from July 1 has been released. Apparently this policy has been justified on the theory that it "piques curiosity more than showing everything". Members of the public who prefer not to be manipulated in this way, and who are unhappy about being denied the opportunity to share the excitement of taxpayer-funded planetary exploration through expeditious release of Dawn images, are encouraged to contact JPL, NASA, and their members of Congress to make their feelings known.

  24. Won't really know until Sunday morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It *should* be slipping into orbit at about 10pm Pacific time on Friday, July 15th -- i.e. in a few hours. But we won't actually know if it did until Sunday morning, when they stop thrusting with the ion engine and point the antenna towards Earth (the antenna doesn't pivot, so they have to choose between either communicating or using the engine). There's a pretty good "question and answer" at space.com with this and other tidbits. One of the coolest things is the way that even if they miss the insertion into orbit, they'll have plenty of time to try again -- unlike the usual high-acceleration orbital insertion burn for a non-ion-engine, where if you miss the orbital insertion you might have to go back around the Sun and try again. The two orbits (Vesta's and Dawn's) are already so close that Dawn is gently drifting into capture by Vesta.