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Fake Apple Stores Mushrooming In China

siliconbits writes "A new worrying phenomenon has cropped up in China and Apple has been its first victim; meet the first fake Apple Stores, entire buildings that have been designed to look like the real ones. Chinese companies have long been known for being master copiers but this takes the concept of plagiarism and copying to a whole new level. As expected, everything, from the architecture of the building, the colour of the paint, to the products, the T-shirt worn by the staff down to the logo and the badge design come from Cupertino."

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  1. Incoming Bad Taste Wrong Ethnicity Joke by cosm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Rill somebody prease crawl da Genrioses!

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  2. Name by Rewind · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can the fakes be spotted by looking for the R in Appre?

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    1. Re:Name by Ruke · · Score: 2

      No, but I did find the "Stoer" a bit suspicious...

    2. Re:Name by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      STFU, pedantic asshore.

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  3. Not new but still worrisome... by grub · · Score: 4, Informative


    In 2006 NEC found that a group in China had cloned the NEC corporation. They had factories, office buildings, stationary... the whole nine yards.

    They were even receiving royalty payments.

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    1. Re:Not new but still worrisome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's one difference between that and this:

      This is one single piddly country crossing the Cult of Steve.

      Expect a single, buttonless, brushed-steel smoldering iCrater across Asia, while white-earbud-wearing acolytes swoop in to seal the land.

    2. Re:Not new but still worrisome... by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2

      The government will shut these places down as soon as Apple calls them up and says "So, do you like us producing all of our products at Hon Hai?"

    3. Re:Not new but still worrisome... by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2

      So what you're saying is that China would not care one iota about losing one of the world's largest PC hardware manufacturers, maybe the largest single manufacturer of hardware in the country? They would not care at all about losing them to shadebone counterfeiting operations that give them no taste at all? Communist China would not notice the phenomenal loss of revenue Apple generates for them?

      I think someone needs to take your little red book away...

    4. Re:Not new but still worrisome... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is correct. Apple does not have the balls to pull it's manufacturing out of china. To get the manufacturing up and running elsewhere will do two things.

      1 - bankrupt the company.
      2 - force a triple price increase.

      China has apple completely by the balls. Go ahead, get your iphones made in the USA,Europe,India or South america.. Oh wait none of them have the industries needed to make the device...

      Ohhh so sorry!

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    5. Re:Not new but still worrisome... by dslbrian · · Score: 2

      The government will shut these places down as soon as Apple calls them up and says "So, do you like us producing all of our products at Hon Hai?"

      Unlikely, the gov't there is so corrupt and moves so slow it could never effectively shut all these operations. The real takeaway here is that Apple now gets to realize the true benefits of outsourcing all its manufacturing to China. Namely that they have little power to really control their inventory and supply chain.

      Seriously, only in an environment where the gov't was complicit or completely corrupt and lazy could you have enough grey and black market goods to supply not only a single store, but an entire chain of retail stores.

    6. Re:Not new but still worrisome... by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      The government will shut these places down as soon as Apple calls them up and says "So, do you like us producing all of our products at Hon Hai?"

      "Okay, we still make all your products and sell them for less. You blink first."

  4. I am not worried by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Worrying phenomenon for who? Not for me, for you? No? Then it ain't worrying. A new famine looms in Africa, China swears to brutally surpres discent in Tibet, hundreds are tortured and/or killed in Syria, the western world is embroiled in a near global war now and I am supposed to be worried about some stores in China that might mean Steve Jobs income is a few dollars lower? He didn't worry much about all the loss in income to westerners when he outsourced all production to China but I am supposed to worry when what everybody warned would happen (what is produced in China is copied in China) is happening?

    Tell it to the marines, cry me a river, talk to the hand because the face ain't listening. I could go on but that might show I cared. Which I don't.

    Cue Apple fanboys defending their gadgets being produced in slave labor camps with reaganomics.

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    1. Re:I am not worried by vlm · · Score: 2

      Its funny when they clone an apple store to the tiniest detail. Not so funny when they get around to cloning a vaccine manufacturer, or any other pharmaceutical, except skipping that expensive testing part.

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    2. Re:I am not worried by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      I don't think anyone is saying this is some horrible world changing catastrophe.

      I'm guessing Steve Jobs is.

    3. Re:I am not worried by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2

      Or substituting melamine or lead for the more expensive actual ingredients.

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    4. Re:I am not worried by brit74 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Worrying phenomenon for who? Not for me, for you? No? Then it ain't worrying. A new famine looms in Africa, China swears to brutally surpres discent in Tibet, hundreds are tortured and/or killed in Syria, the western world is embroiled in a near global war now and I am supposed to be worried about some stores in China that might mean Steve Jobs income is a few dollars lower? He didn't worry much about all the loss in income to westerners when he outsourced all production to China but I am supposed to worry when what everybody warned would happen (what is produced in China is copied in China) is happening?

      Tell it to the marines, cry me a river, talk to the hand because the face ain't listening. I could go on but that might show I cared. Which I don't.

      Cue Apple fanboys defending their gadgets being produced in slave labor camps with reaganomics.

      Just so you know: anything bad that happens to you (whether rape, murder, theft, whatever) also measures pretty low next to famine in Africa, China in Tibet, torture in Syria, etc. I hope you use similar logic to remind people that they shouldn't have the least bit of concern for you no matter what the circumstances are.

    5. Re:I am not worried by Rich0 · · Score: 2

      Well, the melamine wasn't actually a substitute for the milk. Water was the substitute for milk, but melamine was used to get the resulting substance to past the quality tests (watered down milk would test low for protein). The problem with most compendial quality tests is that they are designed to control normal manufacturing variances, not detect outright tampering. If your process could contaminate a product with arsenic then you test for it. If your process doesn't involve cyanide at any point, then chances are the quality testing isn't set up to detect it.

    6. Re:I am not worried by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2

      The melamine was a substitute for protein , which is contained in real milk. So in effect, the melamine was a substitute for milk. All of which is a moot point and only serves to demonstrate the fact that shady Chinese manufacturers are willing to cut corners by substituting hazardous substances for non-hazardous ones. And also goes to show you that dangers can come from unexpected ingredients not caught during quality control and safety testing.

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    7. Re:I am not worried by twocows · · Score: 2

      While it is a dumb story that doesn't hold importance to 99% of /.'s audience, you're still making an appeal to bigger problems. The same thing you just said could be said about every single story on the front page today.

    8. Re:I am not worried by datsa · · Score: 2

      Huh? Why is rape, murder, or theft in America less bad than torture in Syria? It's just a question of scale. By contrast, a fake app store is qualitatively less bad than violence.

  5. Art installation? by enilnomi · · Score: 2

    Maybe someone didn't get the memo -- after you build a NuPenny store you're not supposed to open the doors ;-)

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  6. Re:Yep.. plagiarism is bad by localman57 · · Score: 2

    And even the Ask /. section copies the same "What's the best way to store my digital photos for the next 2000 years?" question every 2 months since it was first posted in like 2002.

  7. CEO by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is the CEO of the Fake Apple Stores Fake Steve Jobs?

  8. Modern cargo cult? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Decades ago, when military groups landed in places unfamiliar with airplanes and other technologies, groups would form with mocked up crude simulations of the things they saw. From imitating outfits, things they carried, etc. These people knew they wanted the same things these strangers had, and this was the best way they knew how to get to something like what they had. They just didn't have any grasp on the steps really needed to get there.

    The difference is that many folks in China do know how to get there... but they also understand realistically they can't provide the same things with the tools they have so far. But mimicking is still the most logical path under the circumstances - provide what they can, and use the income to grow to make that mimicry reality, like most emerging economies playing catch-up end up doing.

  9. Not so hidden cost of outsourcing by Nanosphere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Congrats giant corporations, maybe now you will see the dark side of outsourcing to a country like China. You fight so hard to acquire and defend patents and trademarks in the US, but guess what? The country you put all your manufacturing in doesn't care. And China has a growing economy unlike the US, so look at all that money you're losing! So you have a few choices: - Move manufacturing back to the US, where you can enforce your patent and trademark claims. - Give up the patent and trademark system and learn to make money without having a monopoly. - Keep losing money.

    1. Re:Not so hidden cost of outsourcing by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, because nobody's seen a fake rolex since it's manufactured in Switzerland. Sure, manufacturing makes it easier to get blueprints, machinery, parts, make extra production runs and so on but China will continue to imitate, even if you bring the production home. You'll never be able to sell to China as long as they continue to ignore IP law. They might give it lip service from time to time but on the whole they know ignoring it is good for their economy.

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    2. Re:Not so hidden cost of outsourcing by KahabutDieDrake · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do you really not understand this? No, I want you to stop and think about the chain of events for a few seconds...You still don't get it? Wow. Let me see if I can help... see, apple decided to make all their toys over in china. Shortly afterward massive numbers of counterfeit apple products started showing up in asian markets. Then, someone opened an entire store cloned off the apple store concepts.

      Do I actually have to draw a line between the shady as all fuck manufacturers that apple contracted with and the counterfeit products? Or are you simply unaware of typical Chinese manufacturing process? I can help there too. See, Manufacturer takes contract to run 12 hours a day at 150 units an hour. They use your source material, and their hardware to do the production run. Then, at the end of 12 hours, they shut down your production run and do another 12 hour production run, expect this time they use their own source material, and their own hardware, and they sell the fakes out the back door. Now, I know what you are thinking, this is BS, this isn't really how it happens. But it actually is.

  10. Re:Yep.. plagiarism is bad by Abstrackt · · Score: 2

    Even better is that half the replies still tell the person to use floppy disks.

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  11. They've already copied an entire town by bizso09 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think this takes their copying to a whole new level. They've already copied an entire city called Hallstatt in Austria. They've built the same houses, same streets. Compared to that, copying an Apple store is nothing remarkable.

  12. You smell that? by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It smells like...Karma.

    1. Re:You smell that? by royallthefourth · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, now Apple knows how Xerox feels.

      No joke about copying intended there...

  13. when you don't pay for software or maybe hardware by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    when you don't pay for software or maybe hardware then it's easy to high revenue.