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Space Shuttle Atlantis Last Night In Space Orbit
techtribune writes "Tomorrow will be a bittersweet day for the crew aboard the NASA Space Shuttle Atlantis as they begin their return home to Earth. This will be the last space shuttle re-entry, the last landing, and the very last crew to pilot the shuttle in U.S. history. The Atlantis Space Shuttle undocked from the International Space Station (ISS) yesterday after delivering a lot of supplies, batteries, and other hardware to the station. They are bringing a lot of trash and everything else that needs to be brought back to Earth, as it's the very last opportunity for NASA to do so on its own." In a related topic, MarkWhittington wrote in with a story about why we stopped going to the moon and why there are no plans to go back.
I say we all put on ape costumes and greet them at the shuttle door just to screw with their heads.
Mr. Whittington's article is written with very little depth. He doesn't even answer his own question. Nixon siad it was too expensive... really? that's it?
Sure the space shuttle program ended up being truly massively expensive, but the entire world surrounding the space program also changed in the mean time and far more valuable things occured in science than "going to the moon"
Going back to the moon from then until say now... wouldn't have had half the scientific value of say Hubble or zero G experiments of the 80's.
It's exciting... yes. And we should go back. There's a pratical side to a moon base that would be extremely valuable in the future. Far less fatigue for atronauts, a fantastic opportunity at power and heat generation at the boundary between the near and far sides of the moon. the ability to use local building materials for some things. A grand opportunity indeed. I'm just scratching the surface.
Is any of this in his article? No. It's just whining.
People stopped going to the moon and skylab because they ran out of useful things to do there.
The reason for people in space is because it makes for better marketing.
All the science is done by unmanned probes. The Mars rovers have been a huge success. Sure they are less capable than a human, but they are much cheaper, they can stay there a long time, you don't have to bring them back and if something goes wrong on Mars at least nobody gets hurt hence you can tolerate a modest risk of failure.
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with unreliable history of that death trap, might be the last shuttle to burn up, the last crew to die
2 Failures out of 135 launches makes it an unreliable death trap?
The reason that our space program is dead in the water is that we are pathologically afraid of the risk of anyone dying. If there's an accident, the entire program shuts down. Not for a couple of weeks, but for nearly a decade while congress has meeting after meeting, and even more bureacracy is put into place to hamper all programs. The solution is a lean, mean, risk taking NASA that can get a new vehicle out there flying every year to test out the technologies and toughen up the astronauts for the conquering of space, which will be the most difficult thing that the human race has done to date.
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Orbiting on land would probably make a huge mess.
If your car exploded once a month while driving to or from work, what would you call it?
A Ford Taliban?
Geeks are so full of shit that "beating the crap out of them" takes a whole new meaning.
2 Failures out of 135 launches makes it an unreliable death trap?
If your car exploded once a month while driving to or from work, what would you call it?
NASA would laugh at SpaceX if they were offering a 'man-rated' transport to ISS which would kill the crew one time in sixty flights.
Talk to me when the car is being launched in to orbit or doing re-entry, THEN we will compare notes.
There was no reason to go back.
With the technologies available in the 1960s all the research done on the lunar samples and from orbit showed the Moon to be a dead, worthless rock in space.
The Mercury program was about increasing heavy lift to Low-Earth Orbit, the Gemini program was about working and maneuvering in Low-Earth Orbit while Apollo was about getting very large loads into Low-Earth Orbit and to the Moon.
Of all those programs, Gemini is the one we should have continued, an affordable and maneuverable system that could stay up for two weeks, more of a sports car in space while the Soyuz is a remote controlled car.
The current collapsed of NASA's manned space flight program isn't the fault of Bush, or Obama, it's the fault of NASA, since Challenger failed NASA has screwed up every attempt to make a successor to Shuttle. The day Scaled Composites flew to space, NASA should have sunk a billion dollars (one shuttle flight) into Scaled Composites to build an orbital space craft. But NASA didn't just like NASA never got a super-heavy lift rocket off the ground despite Congress telling them to in 1987 or NASA balling up two shuttle replacement programs in the 1990s.
I'm an engineer who can reason and point out truths that make wimpier people uncomfortable. 2/5 of all shuttles launched have killed people.
Specific Impulse is more important than energy density. Lithium/Flourine/Hydrogen liquid propellant is the best. No worries, once off earth better to burn "longer" than "harder" and we have other technologies with higher specific impulse, 8 to 25x that of liquid chemical
It's not in Low Earth Orbit?
It's actually higher than that. Middle Earth Orbit.
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It wasn't ice... it was a foam bi-pod ramp that detatched from the ET, and hitting the wing at high speed, creating a hole in one of the TPS tiles.
May you have fair (solar) winds and following seas. You will be missed, you and your sister ships served very well and performed better than expected, even with the casualties. May you come home safely and get the rest you deserve.
As some one who grew up in central Florida right along side the shuttle program I must admit that this brings tears to my eyes. Not so much because its going away, but because its going away with no replacement. We've basically given up. It'd bother me far less if there was already another operational program to fill its place. Too bad we've lost our edge.
And yes, sometimes its okay to anthropomorphize objects for they are often backed by people who gave the objects those human qualities. So what I really mean is, thanks to all the NASA crew that made this program work, and thanks for all the benefits you've given us from it. My job and in fact the company I work for only exists because of NASAs work.
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