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British ISP Ordered To Block Links to Pirate Site

An anonymous reader writes "A UK High Court judge has ruled that BT must block access to a website which provides links to pirated movies. Justice Arnold ruled that BT must use its blocking technology CleanFeed — which is currently used to prevent access to websites featuring child sexual abuse — to block Newzbin 2. 'Currently CleanFeed is dealing with a small, rural road in Scotland,' ISPA council member James Blessing told BBC Radio 4's PM programme. 'Trying to put Newzbin and other sites into the same blocking technology would be a bit like shutting down the M1. It is not designed to do that.' Digital rights organisation the Open Rights Group said the result could set a "dangerous" precedent. "Website blocking is pointless and dangerous. These judgements won't work to stop infringement or boost creative industries. And there are serious risks of legitimate content being blocked and service slowdown. If the goal is boosting creators' ability to make money from their work then we need to abandon these technologically naive measures, focus on genuine market reforms, and satisfy unmet consumer demand," said ORG campaigner Peter Bradwell."

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  1. In other news... by FalconZero · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...court orders pavements(sidewalks) ripped up to prevent bank robbery.

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  2. Love it by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I love how trivial this is to get around for the pirates, too. First thing I thought was 'URL Shortener.'

    But of course, anyone that really cares would use a VPN and this wouldn't affect them in the first place.

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    1. Re:Love it by discord5 · · Score: 3, Informative

      But of course, anyone that really cares would use a VPN and this wouldn't affect them in the first place.

      Newzbin felt this coming on a long time ago and have set up their service on Tors .onion a while ago. I read about it a month or so ago, but I'm sure it's been up a good while longer.

      It's quite pointless to do this, and it sets a dangerous precedent legally for using a filter in place to stop kiddy porn (equally useless for the same reason btw) to protect corporate interests. Insert your favourite slippery slope argument here.

    2. Re:Love it by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The fantastically sad thing is that this is what we've always warned/complained about. Every time a child porn filter is mentioned on Slashdot as a proposed project, there's a cloud of "it's gonna be abused" comments following it. It happened in Australia, without too much open discussion until the blacklists were leaked. Here, we have a quintessential example—in motion, no less—of the precise same problem.

      I recall some stories about US lawmakers pushing for the Internet to become more regulated; that it's too lawless. For once, I agree with them: we need mandatory net neutrality.

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    3. Re:Love it by dintech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you want to avoid your ISP's tomfoolery, use a VPN. Giganews provide one with their platinum package. When I use the VPN, it gets round my ISPs bandwidth throttling and I get 1000% faster download speeds.

      By leap-frogging the ISP like this, you can work around some of the bullshit.

    4. Re:Love it by discord5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you want to avoid your ISP's tomfoolery, use a VPN.

      Until your ISP starts fooling around with the VPNs. It's trivially easy to throttle things like OpenVPN & co. My ISP is currently testing DPI combined with throttling, and they've been quite successful at it.

      By leap-frogging the ISP like this, you can work around some of the bullshit.

      And you become dependent on the company offering the VPN service, which also has to keep logs to be legally compliant to its local government. Hell, once the VPN service becomes the next target instead of your local privacy laws protecting you (if your country has such a thing), you now are subjected to the local policies of the company you're hiring the service from. Most companies have a policy in place to keep track of financial records, if you get what I mean.

      I'm very wary of companies offering me VPNs to "enhance my internet privacy".

    5. Re:Love it by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've read our law on data retention. The sensible thing for an ISP to do is to ignore it. The fine for failing to comply is lower than the implementation cost.

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  3. and this is what the IWF has always been for by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've endured half a decade of being told I'm a tinfoil-hat-wearing maniac for suggesting that the IWF - already in a strange, anti-competitive position of being a private charity endorsed by government and given special legal privileges - is a slippery slope and that technology based on its list would eventually be used at a judicial level to block other sites.

    It required lobby groups to step up the pressure in the courts. We've seen that over the past few years. It required an Act to consolidate the views of these lobby groups and set the legislative view of Internet censorship. That was the DEA. Next comes implementation.

    Abusing children is wrong and the law has a duty to stop it.

    Censoring 0s and 1s does not stop children being abused, but it does provide a framework for censorship.

    The IWF list's implementation has not stopped any child abuse, but it has sat as the foundation stone for the Great Firewall of the UK.

    Every one of you geeks who works for an ISP which has caved into government pressure to implement the list should be ashamed. You are the problem.

  4. Full text of judgment by Neil_Brown · · Score: 4, Informative

    is available on BAILII.

    (BAILII - British and Irish Legal Information Institute - is a very valuable resource indeed, for lawyers and those who simply want to understand the laws affecting their lives. legislation.gov.uk is another useful resource.)

  5. Google, Bing and Jeeves by ciderbrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How can I add Google, Bing and Jeeves to this list? I want to see how that works out?

  6. Re:No appeal? by Darkon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To protect their interest, they are trying to enforce laws that are currently being broken. Seems reasonable to me. Hopefully, this will deter the casual downloader who isn't particularly aware of the illegality of what they are doing.

    It's a slippery slope though. How long before Ryan Giggs or someone like him demands that they block Twitter to protect his super injunction?

  7. Re:No appeal? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To protect their interest, they are trying to enforce laws that are currently being broken. Seems reasonable to me.

    The Cleanfeed infrastructure was sold to the public on the basis that it would be used to block child abuse content and nothing else; it was specifically said time and again that this kind of thing absolutely and categorically would not happen. Even ignoring that, Newzbin simply provides links, they don't host any infringing material - blocking them seems a stretch of copyright law at best. Saying "it's the law, so it's right" is also dubious - the sites blocked by the great firewall of China are illegal under Chinese law, for example; does that make it right to censor them?