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What Happens After the Super-Hero Movie Bubble?
mattnyc99 writes "In the wake of a not-that-exciting Comic-Con come some (perhaps premature) reports on the so-called "Death of Superheroes" — what one financial group calls "the top of the (comic book) character remonetization cycle." In response, Esquire.com's Paul Schrodt has an interesting look down Hollywood geek road. From the article: "What happens after The Avengers, or Christopher Nolan's third and final Batman movie — after we've seen all there is to see of the best comic-book blockbusters ever made?""
They'll reboot the franchise and start again. Just like with Batman and Spider-Man.
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There is a recent movie called Super, which is really funny. It even has the "superhero" and his sidekick having sex with each other, true batman and robin style.
we've had disaster movies, monster movies, historical, fantasy, sci-fi and others.hollywood will find another genre and milk it.
plenty of books out there that haven't been made into movies or in need of a modern CGI refresh. Bible movies anyone?
Remakes, Reimaginings, Reboots...who says it EVER has to end?
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Heaven forbid they have to *gasp* come up with original material!
Galactus: a Tragedy of Universal Proportions.
Dr. Doom vs Mephisto. Yo Mama Fight. ("Yo Mama was so dumb, I stole her soul and am keeping it in Hell!")
Red Skull, an insightful look into the caring side of a Megalomaniac Nazi General.
Solomon Grundy vs "The Zombie" crossover film. A new cult classic!
The Osprey. What happens after the Osprey is rejected from the Frightful Four tryouts? It's a madcap whirlwind rush for a one page wonder from Marvel comics golden age!
Mr. Mxyzptlk. Four hours of a stationary picture of Mr. Mxyzptlk, with a rumor that there's a cliffhanger scene after the credits. There is not.
They already redid True Grit, which was better than the original. A remade Rio Bravo could be interesting, although the casting would be hard to do. And yes, I much prefer John Wayne westerns over Clint Eastwood westerns.
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Although they most certainly will, they don't have to. I think that the comic book corpus is deeper than you think. Fables was highly enjoyable to me and The Sandman wasn't bad. Are they perfect for a movie adaptation? Maybe not. But I can think of many comics with great story lines that aren't common household names. I really wouldn't mind seeing more comic book movies like The Watchmen. I guess the primary problem with that is they would most certainly have to be rated R and that stunts your market. I can think of examples suitable for children like Percy Gloom that I think Pixar could really run with ... of course, these aren't traditional superhero constructs (neither was The Watchmen), they're more complex than that.
I think that if Hollywood and the comic publishers had more fairly compensated the original artists that they wouldn't be facing a lack of material. Here's a research exercise I'll leave to the reader: Who personally profited more from Spiderman: ${Sony CEO} or co-creator Jack Kirby (and his estate)? If a large enough percentage of profit is pumped back into the creators, you'd see an explosion of people vying for that market with new and original ideas.
More and more with the creative art that I consume I strive to make purchases directly from the artist themselves because we have the internet and the internet enables this so why not? Hollywood and their accounting methods are absolutely horrible about this so why should I worry that they're not going to have anymore comic books left to rape soon?
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I have no doubt that Hollywood will lose its taste for the cash cow it's currently grinding into hamburger (note: not the mixed metaphor that it sounds like). But fretting over The Next Big Thing, simply because a clear winner hasn't emerged yet? That's pathetic.
For one thing, take a look at the movie listings. There's currently a lot more out there beside the "superhero" movie. Some of it is older genres, some of it is niche new stuff that someone felt was good to throw against the wall, just to see if it stuck. If the superhero genre can be said to be "dominating," it's only because they're making more money, not because they're filling every theater and pushing the ordinary genres off the screen.
Second, when their star finally does fade, who's to say it'll do so completely? Like I said, a lot of older genres are still being explored. Who's to say we won't get a satisfying drip of interesting empowered individual films in the future?
And third, it's entirely possible that the reason that the superhero film has dominated Hollywood's rather Asperger's-like focus is that the Next Big Thing hasn't come along yet. I have every confidence that when it does, filmmakers will jump upon it with both feet and kick the Current Big Thing to the curb.
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Independence Day 2 and 3, Men in Black 3, Jurassic Park 4, Twister 2(Supposedly Bill Paxton is pushing for this), Ghostbusters 3, etc. Seems they want to pull out franchises that are at least a decade old(or at least a decade since their last good movie) and start again. Supposedly they're even looking at making another Evil Dead sequel.
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There's not too many more superheroes the can make movies out of. Once you have to make a movie about Thor, you know you're reaching the bottom of the barrel. I bet you we'll see Aquaman soon.
Too late. Viacom has already stooped to that level of desperation.
What happens after the 'Bubble' bubble?
Is anyone else tired of hearing the term 'bubble' being used so ubiquitously and loosely now?
Look, this has been going on since the early 1990s with the Michael Keaton Batman movie. Its been 20 solid years. I'm not sure why its suddenly going to end.
Turns out audiences like simple-minded melodramas with clear-cut good guys and villains. They love fight scenes and over-the-top special effects. Comics fits perfectly with what most moviegoers want. Christ, Michael Bay can do this with something as worthless as a cartoon to sell toys. I think more well rounded characters are a shoo-in.
Of course there are lots of stinkers. Most notably Ang Lee's Hulk (sounds like simpsons parody) and the weird stalkerish Superman Returns. Hollywood's economics are setup in a way for them to easily absorb bad movies as long as they have a handful of hits every year.
Who wouldn't watch "Superman Vs. Batman" or "Wolverine Vs. Spider-Man"?
Now you have n! new movie "plots" to choose from.
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This is getting ridiculous. I have read comic books for 45 years, and hardly ever read an "origin" story. They are there, but THEN THEY MOVE ON!
The movies can't seem to get past origin stories, and their direct aftermath.
Why not do a Starwars? Just leap into the story, and let the audience figure it out? Maybe do a flash back here and there, and move on with the plot?
We have the technology to tell the stories now. But we can't get to the meat of what it means to be Spiderman when every time we have to switch out an actor, we are forced to see the one plot we (comic fans) really know well, over and over again. We know these heros had an origin. We know they have to come to terms with their power. We know they have to find balance between being a hero and being a person. There are so many possible stories to tell! Tell one of them already!
I would point out that if comic movies suffer the flaw of origin focus, fantasy suffers the flaw of world wide destruction. Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, the Matrix (really, this is just a tech fantasy), The Mummy, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars (really, another tech fantasy), etc. are all driven by the idea that unless the unlikely hero beats some terrible foe, the world will end.
There are many films that escape the terrible gravity wells of these plot paths, so maybe I troll when I say "All we have are...", but I just wish sometimes there were more standout exceptions to the rule....