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Followup: Anti-Global Warming Story Itself Flawed

The Bad Astronomer writes "As posted earlier on Slashdot, a Forbes Op/Ed claims there is a 'gaping hole in global warming' theories, based on a recent paper. However, both the Forbes article and the paper on which it's based are themselves seriously flawed. The paper has been excoriated by climate scientists, saying the model used is 'unrealistic' and 'incorrect,' and the author has a track record of using bad models to make incorrect conclusions."

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  1. And many of the "climate" scientists... by Svartalf · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...have much of a better track record? You have fudged data from the last century or so and think you've got a model that shows anything whatsoever? Sorry, not buying it any better than you're buying this guy's statements.

    This is not to say AGW proponents are right or wrong- just that they haven't the foggiest as they've not honestly done any science with the subject yet. To say they do have a picture is being dishonest at best- they don't have enough of a sample set for starters...

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    1. Re:And many of the "climate" scientists... by hsthompson69 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Wow. The Church of Global Warming must've saved up their mod points :)

      Disagree != Troll

  2. Of course! by _newwave_ · · Score: 0, Troll

    Because anything that doesn't fall lock step into the religion that says we are on a path to human extinction within this century unless we start taxing corporations heavily, is obviously seriously flawed. If only environmental science had the same rigorous processes as the rest of the sciences...

  3. I downloaded the FOIA file and ... by Jerry · · Score: 0, Troll

    read the emails. Unlike Gore's contention to the CNN reporter that they were "10 years old and not relevant any more", the most recent was just days before the files were leaked. The emails exchanges between members of the CRC gang describe how they gained control of climate journals and stuffed the "peer review" committees with their own people, smeared highly acclaimed climatologists from MIT and other highly ranked institutions because they didn't genuflect to AGW, and attempted or did destroy careers of lesser known academics who dared publish or discuss ideas that disagreed with AGW. The tactics they described are exactly those used to attack this satellite study.

    Also in the FOIA files were documents of contracts between the CRC and the UN IUPPC which set up milestones for delivery of "data" from "experiments" which would support AGW. As one who did anti-metabolite cancer research in grad school, I find it incredulous that a group of scientists could sign a contract and promise to deliver "proof" of AGW in exchange for cash (a.k.a. "grant money"). One could call it bribe money.

    Despite all their claims to superior knowledge and skill I also read the HARRYREADME.TXT file. THAT was an eye opener. It explains how they could guarantee "deliverables" according to a preset time lines agreed to in their contracts with the IUPCC. A running dialog of how they manipulated, and then finally created imaginary data in order to product a "deliverable", as their contract with the UN IUPPC called them. They literally did try to "hide the decline" (the 0.7F decline in world temperature during the decade of 2000), and surpress the Maunder minimum in the middle ages. They fudged data from all over the globe and cherry picked a few data points while ignoring a vast mountain of contradictory data, always with a ready explanation as to why. They were also caught trying to changing the historical CO2 data collected at Hawaii.

    Al Gore's motive for Carbon Credits had less to do with controlling the release of CO2 into the atmosphere and more to do with plain old simply greed.

    All of this reminds me of the USSR trip into Bazzaro Land when Communist Party officially recognized the work of the Russian biologist Lysenko, whose theories dovetailed neatly with Marxist dogma. While Lysenko was spending government money to rig "experiments" and buy cronies willing to do the same, it set Soviet biology back more than 30 years. He was eventually discredited. Sooner or later the AGW theories will fall by the wayside as well, especially when their proponents realize that no one is going to be scared into giving up their personal freedoms and submit to Maxist/Socialist dogma, as the GreenPeace Activist and a CRC member discussed in one of their emails. The GreenPeace guy was the one whose article about Amazon deforestation was revealed to be totally bogus.

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