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Pakistan Tries To Ban Encryption

An anonymous reader writes "Pakistan has a new Telecoms Law going into effect, which requires widespread monitoring of internet usage. In response, new reports are saying that the country is banning encryption, including VPNs, because it would interfere with the ability of ISPs to monitor internet usage."

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  1. Cool! by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...now I just have to get hold of a few Pakistani bank IP addys, set up some sort of listener, and...

    Oh, you thought SSL would still be around after this little law gets into effect?

    (obviously I'm kidding, at least about wanting to do any such thing. OTOH, there are quite a few folks who probably wouldn't be kidding at all).

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    1. Re:Cool! by NFN_NLN · · Score: 2

      Why bother, when you can simply talk to a few people at the bank's ISP, exchange a bit of something under the table, and get a list of all the banks' customers' account numbers, PINs and login info.

      After some careful analysis, I've determined you could make off with tens of dollars by hacking the average Pakistani's bank account. It would be more lucrative and less effort to trick dumb and greedy Americans into Nigerian money laundering scams.

      http://www.einfopedia.com/per-capita-income-of-pakistan.php

    2. Re:Cool! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      It also means that every single password for every single system in India will have to be plaintext.

      What does India have to do with this?

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    3. Re:Cool! by lostsoulz · · Score: 2

      Oh, you thought SSL would still be around after this little law gets into effect?

      I, for one, welcome the arrival our new Telnet Overlords.

  2. ok guys, seriously by SpiralSpirit · · Score: 2

    no more secrets. at all. this time I mean it. now go back to putting your secrets on the internet, in plain text!

    1. Re:ok guys, seriously by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      I'm just wondering how the hell they're going to be able to tell images with steganographic messages from the ordinary variety.

      (the more I think about this, the more I'm forced to concldue that the Pakistani government isn't really thinking this thing through...)

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  3. What it comes down to by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The particulars may vary, but the essence is that you try to forbid people to have secrets from you.

    Once you see it in this light, the paradoxical futility becomes clear.

  4. with technology like that..... by scosco62 · · Score: 2

    They might actually hide the location of Osama Bin Laden....oh, wait.....

  5. Lack of technical acumen by Sprouticus · · Score: 2

    ...and I thought the US government was clueless.

  6. Re:coming soon.... by 0123456 · · Score: 2

    any bets this gives some idiot in the US Gov't an idea and they add this to the next save the children legislation.

    Presumably you've forgotten the Clipper Chip?

  7. Re:the password is "password" by Wingman+5 · · Score: 2

    Be sure to drink your ovaltine?

  8. Re:yeah ok by NFN_NLN · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They're interested in content rather than b/w utilisation. I suggest you RTFA...no-matter how preposterous it may sound.

    Instead of generic encrypted traffic now users will to resort to stenography. Just embed encrypted traffic in otherwise boring video streams and pictures.

    I take it no one does any actual work over the internet in Pakistan?! How about banking, stock trades, online purchases? How ass-backwards is this country?

  9. And for all you know India might be next .... by CalcuttaWala · · Score: 2

    Because after every terrorist exploit, the security agencies make threatening noises about Skype (most favourite) followed by Gmail and then mail in general. How to explain to our dumbos that banning automobiles is no solution to hit-and-run accidents !

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  10. Zero outsourcing jobs moving to Pakistan by jroysdon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, way to make sure your country can never have any outsourcing jobs. No business with a clue would ever set up operations in a country where all traffic has to be open to corporate espionage.

    They're going to be in the technological dark ages forever if this persists, vs. following India into the cheap outsourcing market.

  11. Re:yeah ok by lgarner · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure, since hardly anyone can read shorthand these days, that should work. I'm not sure how to get it encoded into e-mails & such, though.

  12. It's not encrypted by Intropy · · Score: 2

    It's not encrypted. We're just sending random, meaningless strings to one-another.

  13. Re:Good for the USA by Tanuki64 · · Score: 2

    Buahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

  14. Re:Good plan... by ewanm89 · · Score: 2

    I would like to point out that it's international telecommunications union regulations that ban encryption on amateur wavelengths, and it is fine as amateur radio is for the purpose of research and learning about radio technology. Not research into encryption systems.

  15. Re:Good plan... by ewanm89 · · Score: 2

    Hell, courtesans were popular in most European courts (including in Italy, right outside the Vatican) until about 150 years ago. It was the Victorian age that defined pornography and prostitution as bad.

  16. Foreign Agents, Attack! by meustrus · · Score: 2

    Isn't this one of those countries that's supposedly afraid of foreign agents infiltrating their country and attacking their citizens? At least, that's the excuse totalitarian regimes always use for imprisoning and torturing their own citizens. I'd say this is a call for some actual foreign assailants to launch an attack on Pakistan. All internet traffic is unencrypted. Let's steal some government accounts and passwords. Let's read the government's emails. Let's hack into their public utilities and make 'em explode. There's all kinds of havoc that can be done.

    Pakistan is evidently more concerned about its own law-abiding citizens than Chinese hackers, Russian mafia, and the American CIA combined.

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