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WiFi 802.22 Can Cover 12,000 Square Miles

tekgoblin writes "IEEE has just announced a new Wireless standard, 802.22, that can cover up to 12,000 square miles. The standard is actually for Wireless Regional Area Networks (or WRAN), which use the white spaces left in the TV frequency spectrum."

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  1. Finally by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Someone's finally planning to plan to do something with the spectrum? We didn't downgrade ourselves to digital TV for nothing?

    1. Re:Finally by robthebloke · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's pretty useless really. How many people can afford to buy a house that covers 12,000 sqr miles? What's the point in that? When will technology companies learn that enough is enough! It's just like the time Apple went and released the iPad. My iPhone squeezed in my trouser pockets just fine, but I had to get all my trousers upgraded to the 'apple approved trouser pocket size' when I got my iPad, and to add insult to injury, they only went and bloody removed the 'phone' part. This is just yet another unreasonable attempt at extracting more money from consumers, and I for one am disgusted! Right. I'd better go start saving for a larger house....

    2. Re:Finally by camperslo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually what they're talking about is ONE base station covering a radius of 62 miles (pi r squared = 12,000 sq miles). The 22 MB/S is based on use of one 6 Mhz tv channel and that's a TOTAL for all user traffic and overhead on the channel. Some channel hopping is possible but it is doubtful that people would want antenna covering the whole tv spectrum (great big UHF/VHF antenna). Antennas made for a portion of the spectrum could provide better gain and in some cases much smaller size. Clients would have an outdoor directional antenna and GPS. Range would usually be best at the lowest frequencies (channel 2 is 54-60 MHz) But the antenna for that would be pretty large. The upper UHF frequencies can do pretty well if line of sight. Coverage at a distance would be spotty otherwise.

      Let's hope the signals occasionally getting reflected off of airplanes doesn't cause too much grief for tv reception.

      PDF overview of standard
      http://www.ieee802.org/22/Technology/22-10-0073-03-0000-802-22-overview-and-core-technologies.pdf

  2. Simple maths: by gcnaddict · · Score: 4, Informative

    12000 = pi r^2
    3819.7186 ~= r^2
    61.8039 ~= r

    So, simple maths suggest that we're definitely not going to have reception if we're more than 62 miles away from the tower, and that doesn't take into account the curvature of the earth, the height of the tower, atmospheric distortions, etc.

    but it does suggest the standard would allow for decent reception within a 30 mile radius. That ain't too bad.

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  3. Re:For scale by Muad'Dave · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's suspiciously close to exactly 100km - could that 12,000 square mile figure have been derived from a metric back-of-the-envelope figure of "about 100km"?

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  4. The Wireless Mesh age comes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This will be GREAT for the wireless mesh people who want to get away from the mess of the internet and communicate without fear of the big bad media companies spying on their every move.
    Of course, yes, we all know the bad side of archaic, no-censorship networks (child porn, terrorism, etc.), but you just have to deal with that.
    The creators of the products to mesh technologies probably should work together with encryption and sandboxing companies to create an ecnrypted sandbox so that people don't have their lives destroyed because of a thumbnail that someone ELSE uploaded, or at least advise people on products they can use.

    No doubt the governments will try suppress such things by making it illegal to run a WRAN without a licence or some shit.

  5. Yeah, IEEE!! by DaMattster · · Score: 3, Informative

    This news is most welcome! It has the potential to level the ISP playing field again and harkin back to the times when mom and pop ISPs existed. How? Small start-up ISPs can now offer competing broadband to the likes of AT&T and offer the service at an unlimited tier. Thus, AT&T will be forced to remove its service caps. Companies will be able to build their own MAN's without having to pay Verizon/AT&T/CenturyLink leases for the lines. I will be following this with some excitement especially because I would love to run my own small ISP.

  6. Re:And of course by nschubach · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Which brings up a point... Television and Radio are broadcast. They don't require a return signal for two way communication.

    What kind of output will your home antenna need to reach back to a tower that's 50 miles away?

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  7. Re:And of course by blair1q · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did Broadcast Television make you sterile? Because it transmitted at power levels 100X as great as this needs, on dozens of channels at a time in the same frequency band as this.

  8. Re:For scale by bws111 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Stop drooling over your 'stick it to the telco' thoughts, and actually think for a moment. The stated bandwidth of this is 22Mbps per WRAN (not per user, per WRAN). The population of New York State (averaged) is 411 people/sq mi. So in the 12000sq mi area a tower covers you have almost 5 million people (on average). So each person can have a whopping 4 BITS per second of bandwidth. Even if you covered on 1 sq mi per tower (a huge expense) your would still be sharing 22Mbps with 410 other people. Of course, the actual density in NYC is more like 30000 people/sq mi.

    The only place this makes sense is where the population has very low density, which are places that currently have no coverage at all. Just like TFA says.