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Why The US Will Lose a Cyber War

An anonymous reader writes "There's not another nation in the world that can wage kinetic warfare as effectively as the United States, and that's probably at the heart of the reason why the United States will lose a war fought in cyberspace, leading cyber security analyst Jeffrey Carr writes."

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  1. We *CAN* win, if we treat our soldiers well! by Dr.Bob,DC · · Score: 5, Funny


    I've written about cyber warfare before and made some insightful points.

    The bottom line is this: We *CAN* win at cyber war but what we must do is ensure our warriors are comfortable and well nourished as they enter the battlefield. When a warrior is scheduled to go online, make sure they get a well balanced meal the night before. Lower carbohydrates and plenty of protein, preferably from vegan sources. For breakfast a high protein meal is a must, perhaps with some fair trade coffee lightened with a hint of organic soy milk. Some vitamin B complex and Omega 6 fatty acids will also help the brain stay alert during his mission.

    That's the nourishment side. Now to comfort.

    Low level, indirect lighting. High contrast, high refresh monitors at a distance that helps reduce the amount of EMR the soldier absorbs. Comfortable Pro Shiatsu massage chairs to keep the blood from pooling up in the back and torso.

    On of the most important things is the soldiers' nervous system care. If they are to be sitting at a computer all day long, they *must* have proper care both before and after their missions. I'd recommend an on-staff Chiropractor to break out the micro-subluxations that will inevitably form during the hours sitting in a chair. Even a good massage chair will let some develop, but they won't be serious if attended to within reasonable time. The last thing we want is a great cyber warrior crippled by subluxation (or worse, given cancer or heart disease by one) Chiropractic is by far the cheapest method of this. That's why we are petitioning the Veterans' Association to bring us on board in their long term care facilities. We can extend their lives and make the duration better quality.

    Take care,
    Bob

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    1. Re:We *CAN* win, if we treat our soldiers well! by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

      The military have used EMF proof glass in their LCD monitors at the Pentagon and Chaney Mountain for years. Your research is based on old information and technology.

      Today the Cyber Soldier is housed in a gel immersion tank to simulate a weightless environment and has an array of no fewer that 4 projectors creating a 180 degree display. These projectors use 4 DLP chips designed for military use to eliminate any possible EMF or side band splatter making our Cyber Army nearly immune to any attack. Couple this with the light yellow tinted Revision Cybertactics Protective eyeware it eliminates strain and increases coordination by at least 27.685% over traditional outdated tactics like you talk about. The wavlet generator in the gel does sub-dermal massage to increase their comfort and the air permeable gel allows a constant air flow to keep them at a perfectly comfortable temperature.

      Also The Government has been testing on the ground troops the effectiveness of special energy drinks designed for this task Codename RIP-IT with some light Civilian testing as well to make sure the psychotropic side effects are controllable This creates a perfect nourshment system that gives them high carb energy drinks for morning after their high protien slurry feeding. Although some of them prefer the bar form instead of the slurry. All of this makes each soldier able to fight on the Cyber Warfront for at least 9 hours at a time. More dedicated soldiers accept the colostomy bag and urine tube to stay in the fight for days at a time. WE are working on better solutions for waste evacuation that are more comfortable for the soldier, NASA claims to have a solid waste sucker that only causes pinching discomfort for about 6 seconds while it extracts the waste.

      This has created a unstoppable force with one exception. the test unit of 12 team members were highly effective until their DSL connection at the pentagon was DDOS attacked. The Government is asking for Congressional funding to get more DSL lines installed but the current Tea-Party members are claiming that it is an un-needed expense.

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  2. No, it's because the U.S. has the most to lose by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with defending the U.S. in a cyber attack is that there are so many targets and its economy has become so utterly and completely dependent on the internet and its computer systems. They're a very easy target because there are so MANY targets to hit there. Now, contrast that with a place like North Korea, which has almost no internet infrastructure and whose ragged economy probably wouldn't take a hit if every computer in the country exploded tomorrow. That's asymetric warfare taken to the nth degree. North Korea in that situation basically CAN'T loose a cyber war against the U.S. The worst that could happen is that the U.S. would stop their attack. And with enough attacks, one is bound to connect. And even one successful attack on an important sector or piece of infrastructure could produce chaos in the U.S.'s very large and powerful house of cards.

    In comparison, what has North Korea got to lose? Their few power plants are running on 50's tech. Most of the country lives in abject poverty with no electricity (much less internet access). They're like Battlestar Galactica, a ship with such old technology that a computer virus doesn't even phase them. How the hell is the U.S. going to fight a cyber war against them and NOT lose?

    Now, that's an extreme example. China, Russia, Iran, et. al. are a little more dependent on their network/computer infrastructure than North Korea. But NO ONE (outside of the first world, certainly) is as dependent on their IT infrastructure as the U.S. That's a real vulnerability that's almost impossible to plug.

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  3. sigh by hypergreatthing · · Score: 5, Funny

    no such thing as a cyber war. If i were to guess, it would be koreans who win a cyber war because they're pros are starcraft. The US might be able to win at halo though, so it would be some sort of give and take.

  4. Is it me or is the article a load of bollocks by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it me or is the article a load of bollocks? "The Chinese will win because the I Ching teaches them synchronicity"! Haven't soldiers consistently exhibited synchronicity? The "gut feeling" that a valley is unsafe. The WWI idea that the "third light" was unlucky, so they extinguished the match after lighting two - years before someone figured out that the time to light three cigarettes was just long enough for a sniper to notice, aim, and fire!

    Also, It will take a lot to convince me that synchronicity is of primary importance in a cyber-war. We are not talking about pursuing agents through second life, we are talking about finding weaknesses in web-connected devices that control infrastructure, and viruses that will make the centrifuges in a uranium processing plant wear out. I think the author is talking complete bollocks.

    1. Re:Is it me or is the article a load of bollocks by ugen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      mod this up. the "article" is a complete hog-wash. if anything, author just wanted to show-off a shiny new word he found, and do it in a way that attracts attention

  5. Enormous Piece of Shit by dcollins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Regardless of whether or not the U.S. would win a cyberwar (or even if such a thing exists), the article makes no testable or even clear assertions on any such thing. It's all about Carl Jung and "interconnectedness" and mind/body material/immaterial synchronicity and at root:

    "The Book of Changes or Yijing. It’s a divinatory oracle that dates back to the Qin dynasty and teaches that the universe is composed of parts that are interconnected. The yarrow stalks used in the Yijing symbolize those parts, while the casting of them symbolizes the mystery of how the universe works (Pauli's quantum indeterminacy). Chinese emperors and generals have used this oracle since approximately 300 BC, and it may still provide a glimmer of insight into the mysterious nature of this new age of cyber-space-time and how cyber battles may be fought and won. Unfortunately for Western nations, synchronicity has its origins in the East. Western nations have a tradition in causality, not synchronicity. And the US Defense Department is deeply grounded in traditional western thinking and practicality..."

    Seriously, this article makes the argument that the DOD doesn't understand cyberspace because it spends insufficient time casting stalks and reading from a 2,300-year-old book of divinations. Made my eyes roll so hard it hurt my head. Possibly the biggest piece of bullshit I've ever seen on Slashdot. Yeah, the DOD is just too "practical" (insufficiently magical?), there's your argument.

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  6. It also ignores an important part of "cyber war" by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That would be the "war" part. These silly little hacking games that go on all the time, even if they have a government behind them, are not cyber war. They don't cause any real amount of trouble, don't advance any strategic objective. They are a nuisance more or less. Real "cyber war" would be like any other war in that the objective would be to hurt an enemy.

    Ok well two things to keep in mind about that:

    1) In such a case, the US would probably take more drastic measures. It would be easier than you think for them to cut off all Internet in and out of the US. That would work for the moment to keep things secure. They then could set about cutting the cables to the attacking country, via sub, bombs, etc. Once that country was off the net, they re-enable their link back to the world. That a cyber attack can be shut down by turning off routers or cutting cables means its long term effectiveness is rather limited.

    2) It is a war which means that it will be responded to as such, namely with physical force. If a nation started destroying US infrastructure by hacking, you think the US government would really sit back and say "Oh well it is cyber, so we have to just use computers in response."? Hell no, they'd start blowing shit up. See how well that cyber war goes when stealth bombers take out your power grid, your telecom centers, and so on.

    There would be no "cyber" war, there would be real war.

    Also in general it seems the government is reasonably well prepared for such a thing by virtue of having their own private systems for a lot of stuff. The government has its own phone system, its own internets, and so on. They were created for other reasons (the phone system because the PSTN got slammed when Kennedy was killed and the government wanted communications that couldn't get interrupted like that, the internets for security against espionage) but they also have the fairly useful function of limiting the damage someone could do to the government and military with a cyber attack. It isn't like a hacker could go and turn off NORAD or something.

    Finally, who the fuck is this guy? A "leading cyber security analyst"? Only according to himself. He is the "CEO" of some shit company who's site doesn't appear to have a functional domain, just an IP, and that is run in Wordpress. The guy is just trying to use scare tactics to sell worthless shit to CEOs. Slashdot shouldn't publish crap like this.

  7. Re:It just works like that by cavreader · · Score: 4, Interesting

    China has increased it's import of food by a factor of 5 from the US just over the past 6 years. On the other hand China makes nothing the US can not produce domestically or import from other emerging countries who can also pay their employees a dollar a day to create cheap products. China has also started reporting trade deficits and inflation is driving their export prices up past the point where their currency manipulations can control. Doing anything to really piss off the US would threaten 30% of their current export market while the US might see a slight increase in prices for imported goods.