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Right-Wing German Extremists Tricked By Trojan Shirts

gzipped_tar writes "Fans at a recent right-wing extremist rock festival in Germany thought they were getting free T-shirts that reflected their nationalistic worldview. But after the garment's first wash they discovered otherwise. The original image rinsed away to reveal a hidden message from an activist group. It reads: 'If your T-shirt can do it, so can you. We'll help to free you from right-wing extremism.'"

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  1. That is awesome by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That is one of the most awesome ideas I've read about. I especially liked the part where they acknowledged that it probably won't do any good now, but it plants the name in their heads for when they're ready to get out of their extremist organization.

    Say, anyone want to chip in for some t-shirts to give away at the next Tea Party convention?

    1. Re:That is awesome by artor3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What a load of crap. A conservative, writing for a conservative paper, looks at some polls. He labels the answers he disagrees with as "unenlightened" and then feigns surprise when the people he disagrees with are most likely to choose the "unenlightened" answers. Therefore, anyone who disagrees with him is "dumber than a fifth grader". Ironically, a fifth grader could probably see the flaw in his logic.

      And it's not like these questions have hard and fast answers. Let's look at some examples:

      "Overall, the standard of living is higher today than it was 30 years ago (unenlightened answer: disagree)"

      Excuse me, but whose standard of living is he talking about? For the bottom sixty percent of Americans (also known as "the majority"), their inflation adjusted income has declined over the past thirty years. And meanwhile the safety nets meant to keep them out of the gutter have been systematically shredded. Welfare is gone, the current batch of Republicans already voted to end Medicare and will do so if they ever get a majority, and Social Security is undoubtedly next on the hit list. Of course, if you're talking about the looters in the top 1%, they're doing great.

      "Third World workers working for American companies overseas are being exploited (unenlightened answer: agree)"

      Are you fucking kidding me? I, personally, have see my overseas coworkers get exploited. The statement wasn't that every third world worker gets exploited. This guy's an absolute hack. But what else could one expect from a Murdoch-owned rag like the Wall Street Journal?

    2. Re:That is awesome by artor3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You arrogant twit. I get my data directly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, same as your graph. But unlike you, I restricted the query to wage earners, instead of letting executives and wall street looters pull up the average.

      Stop repeating the drivel you heard from Lord Murdoch and get your own facts.

    3. Re:That is awesome by artor3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The difference is that the wacko left-winger Democrats are kept out in the fringe, whereas the wacko Tea Party types have essentially taken over the Republican party. This situation is made worse by the fact that those same nitwits who control the GOP are receiving their marching orders from Fox News, as you said. So nearly half the government of the United States is now directly controlled by a single corporation. If that doesn't terrify you, it should.

  2. Re:why attack them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, right-wing extremists are known worldwide for their tolerance and inclusive rhetoric.

  3. Re:Genius. by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Becoming a neo-nazi is considered a negative thing by everyone, except neo-nazis and morally impaired monkeys. Really, there are some things in life that are unambiguously, morally good.

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  4. Re:Genius. by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Let me get this straight: you're arguing that when a mom washes her kid's T-shirts that happen to have extremist slogans on them, she's totally oblivious. But if she washes one T-shirt that has the message "We'll help to free you from right-wing extremism.", then suddenly she's going to wonder what her kid is up to these days?

    Have you thought any of this through?

  5. Re:Genius. by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its really hard to pinpoint an exact cause, but it should be noted that neo-nazism is much more prevalent in the former East Germany, with its much higher unemployment, than west, which is considerably richer. Furthermore its quite popular among young men without university educations, who get royally fucked over in Germany(not as bad as in the states, but still). All the strikes work out great for the older people who have jobs, but they make it much more unlikely the companies are going to hire any more people, which sucks hard for the young Germans.....

    I also guess it really depends on what you define neo-nazism as, to some Germans doing anything that vaguely takes pride in some sort of German cultural identity is neo-nazisism, and to an extent I think the whole movement is just a response to that.....

    But ultimately the extremists in Germany are largely comprised of the same types of people, those who cannot get meaningful jobs/work, as it is anywhere else in the rich world. You arent likely to see a lot of engineers in the hard core Japanese right wing socities, but you do see people who 30 years ago probably would have ended up in a factor with a decent middle class lifestyle. Likewise you arent going to see a lot of scientists in the religious right, but what you will see are people whose best hope in life is to get a job working at Wal-Mart for low pay and no benefits, people who again 30 years ago probably would have had a comfortable middle class lifestyle with a job that actually had at least some, maybe not a lot, but some significance. People need meaning in their lives, if they cannot find it at work, they are going to find some other cause to get behind, and the results are rarely pretty.

  6. Re:Genius. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... that washed out and advertised for gay something, i'd just use the free t-shirt to wipe my ass...

    So the moral is that when you get gay propaganda you stick it up your arse?

  7. Re:What is Right Vs. Left in the German context? by artor3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can pretend to ignore the liars all you like. But the whole "Obama = Nazi Socialist!" tripe is a right-wing talking point that no intelligent, free-thinking person would believe. You've already revealed yourself to be poisoned. Maybe it was by Beck or Limbaugh or Free Republic, instead of Fox. But you're poisoned all the same. Try to cure yourself, instead of striking out at me.

  8. Re:What is Right Vs. Left in the German context? by royallthefourth · · Score: 4, Informative

    When Hitler got his real power in government, the brownshirts demanded that he actually follow through and implement the social portion of his national socialist program. Of course he had no plans on doing this, resulting in the "Night of the Long Knives".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

    Not to mention that nationalism is antithetical to socialism because it creates divisions among the proletariat by national lines, thus weakening it by division and mixing it with the class enemy of capitalists. This absurdity, when the whole point is to unite the proletariat and make those divisions purely on class lines.
    So, no, the viewpoint was not socialist. They may have had some social programs in there, but there's not a shred of Marx to be found.