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More Photoshopped Evidence In Apple v. Samsung

jfruhlinger writes "It seems that Apple can't stop Photoshopping evidence in its EU lawsuit against Samsung. We already saw that the company used trickery in its side-by-side comparison of the iPad and Galaxy Tab; now it appears that it's fudging the comparison between the iPhone and Galaxy S as well."

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  1. Dear Apple by Kagetsuki · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is a flat screen with icons. No, you didn't think it up first. Now sit back down.

    1. Re:Dear Apple by not_surt · · Score: 2, Informative

      But your Windows 95 desktop wasn't mobile. Transferring those icons to a mobile device required all the inventive genius of Apple to achieve. :P

    2. Re:Dear Apple by Solandri · · Score: 1, Informative

      The granddaddy of them all was the Xerox Star workstation from 1981. This was what Steve Jobs saw while visiting PARC and became the inspiration for the GUI on the Lisa/Mac. As Jobs (the 1994 Jobs) said, Apple was always "shameless about stealing great ideas". Too bad the 2011 Jobs thinks behavior which helped build up Apple should be illegal for anyone else.

  2. the two pictures were to show features, not size by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 2, Informative

    They were two separate pictures (the other site photoshopped them together and indicates they did so).

    If I go to a site showing automobiles, is the picture of the Fiat 500 barely visible because a picture of a Toyota Sequoia is on the same page and they have to be to scale?

    Come on, stop reaching here.

    The pictures were to show the devices are substantially similar, not to show scale.

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  3. That's also not the default home screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They also rearranged the Galaxy S's home screen so that it'd look more like the iPhone. Apple, I mean, not Samsung.

    Go ahead, take a look at the real thing. That looks nothing like an iPhone.

    For one thing, it supports widgets, which the iPhone doesn't. (Apparently the idea that people might want to get weather information on their phone still evades Apple.)

    Another good hint is the home button on the screen Apple's using, which probably doesn't appear on the home screen.

    1. Re:That's also not the default home screen by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 5, Informative

      I did the lighting for a number of the TV commercials for the Galaxy S. The apple screen shots are pretty close to the 'official' home screen layout approved by T-Mobile and Samsung.

      e.g. http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/

      I think the lawsuit is stupid but Apple didn't really game the homescreen in any way. That's an approved Samsung screenshot.

    2. Re:That's also not the default home screen by tokul · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's an approved Samsung screenshot.

      Apple should sue T-Mobile. It is not approved Samsung screenshot. It is approved screenshot of hardware sold by T-Mobile.

  4. Re:the two pictures were to show features, not siz by dave420 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not just about scale - that, as you say, is forgiveable - it's about aspect ratio. They made the Samsungs look more like the Apples by squashing their dimensions differently, changing their shape in the process. That isn't exactly cool, as I'm sure you would agree.

  5. The judges get to see *actual* devices... by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Informative

    When the judge made his decision, he had a powered-up iPad and a powered-up Galaxy tab in front of him, so he could see for himself whether they were similar - at least according to the BBC. If he thinks Samsung is in the wrong after playing with a physical working device, what does it matter if one image shows the aspect ratio incorrectly ? (all of the other images in the brief clearly showed the different aspect ratios).

    Oh, it makes good link-bait ? You don't say!

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  6. Re:the two pictures were to show features, not siz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    +4 Misinformative?

    From TFA for those that can't be bothered to read:

    But the picture of purported Galaxy S has been resized about 6%, making the Galaxy S appear smaller and more similar to Apple's phone. The height of the purported Galaxy S that Apple displays matches the iPhone exactly. The aspect ratio has not been measurably altered.

  7. Re:if the Fiat were a smaller dupe of the Sequoia by mysidia · · Score: 5, Informative

    Then yes, Toyota would have a case. The relative size doesn't matter really. If it's similar, it's similar.

    When we are talking about design patents, yes, Scale does matter.

    In addition, if it can be shown that the design has certain utility, the patent of the design is invalid. Design patents can be invalidated if the design has practical utility (e.g. the shape of a gear).

  8. Re:the two pictures were to show features, not siz by sjames · · Score: 3, Informative

    Especially when you also choose a non-default background image and icon arrangement