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Can Google Save Us From Slow Internet

CoveredTrax writes "As part of the beta test of their new gigabit fiber network, Google has provided Stanford University with mouthwateringly high-speed Internet. Since the program was announced, the service, which is now being provided free to students and faculty in the Palo Alto area, has got a lot of people to asking (sometimes begging) that their city be next on Google's list for communication salvation. But can Google save us all from inferior web access? And more importantly, is it a good idea to let them?"

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  1. There will be a time... by pasv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when google gives us free high-speed access and tons of other services to which we will all benefit greatly! But the cost will always be our privacy. Understand google's profit comes from advertising and then piece together how they will benefit. I'm not in favor.

    1. Re:There will be a time... by bonch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think people realize how much that web advertising drives Google. If you look at their financial reports, it's the majority of their revenue. They're not so much an IT company as they are an advertising company that happens to use IT.

      This is also why you get things like Google refusing to implement the Do Not Track feature in Chrome as well as the absence of anonymity on Plus.

    2. Re:There will be a time... by Riceballsan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have to agree with this statement exactly. Google is never perfect, in general it is only significantly better then the alternative, and it forces the alternative to work for the better. When features are sitting in the "we'll get around to it" pile for years, google steps into a market, and in the end whether you take googles option or not, the competition is better for it. Iphone users who enjoy multitasking, google says you are welcome. facebook users enjoying the actually functional groups, google says you are welcome, web mail users of anything who like having space measured in gigabytes, google says you are welcome. Trust them or not, google throwing their hat in the ring in any market, usually turns out well for the consumers, even if the consumers don't use touch google's products

    3. Re:There will be a time... by RobbieThe1st · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because it's to their advantage to provide fast internet - fast internet = more youtube(etc) watching, more of their ads shown.
      Comcast(etc), on the other hand wants exactly the opposite: They make no money off of providing fast internet, and lose money as people watch less TV.

      So, yes, google would be better.

  2. The first one is always free by pedantic+bore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone who thinks that Google is doing this out of the kindness of their hearts is silly.

    Google doesn't care whether you have high-speed access. They want to be able to trace your browsing and other internet usage habits, and they want to make sure they can serve up their ads in a way that minimizes the requirements on their resources.

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  3. Re:There's still hope... by bonch · · Score: 4, Funny

    If only America would elect a liberal supermajority for Congress followed by a liberal president so that all that stuff could easily get solved. Oh, wait...

  4. Story's wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a current student and network admin of a small fiefdom at Stanford, I can tell you that the story is partially incorrect; Google is currently installing their fiber in the "faculty ghetto," a large Stanford-owned neighborhood by the school's foothills. They are not providing fiber to students - all student housing, academic buildings, and the campus core have separate mouthwateringly fast internet, Internet2, and wireless (via the SUNet).

    More importantly, though, Google is *not* installing fiber in Palo Alto. One of the things that likely helped Stanford's case when we were selected is that the school owns *all the land* and even, as far as I know, all the utility lines on our campus. When you buy a house at Stanford, you actually only buy the building – you only lease the land. Because of that, when Stanford says "we're gonna install fiber," it's probably not tied up in regulatory messes, multiple contracts, competitive bidding, or the like. It takes the school's approval process, which may or may not be slow, but that's the only one; we don't have to ask the county, the city, or AT&T if we can do something - something that definitely speeds our adoption. I'm kinda scared that those kinds of facts might hurt further development of Google fiber.

  5. Re:God knows... by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its intentional, 85% of the fiber in the ground in most areas is not lit.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fibre#Overcapacity

    They took $200 billion taxpayer money and ran off with it,
    they are just more of the pirates running the country into the ground.

    http://www.tispa.org/node/14

    We paid for the upgrade already, we got the shaft as usual.

    Pirates of the Potomac taking bribes to hand off our money to corporate pirates.

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  6. Re:Google? Possibly. What we need is competition. by SwedishPenguin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dozens of municipalities here in Sweden laid their own fibers and provided open and equal access to ISPs (and IPTV, IPPhone). Building owners/coop-associations generally have to pay to get the last few meters pulled into the building, but the fibers are there already.
    I think publicly owned infrastructure is the only model that can provide true competition, if one of the ISPs own the fibers they will always have a leg up on the others no matter how many laws regulate their behaviour.