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Raspberry Pi Running Quake 3

First time accepted submitter phonewebcam writes "Here's something to liven up your weekend: a video of the Raspberry Pi running Quake 3. We're still working on ironing a few kinks out (specifically, there seems to be a library issue which means our framerate, while good, isn't quite as spectacular as we know it can be; we're working on it as I post this) – but this is what test boards are for, and we're making great progress getting the boards running smoothly."

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  1. Excerpts from their FAQ by rotide · · Score: 4, Informative

    From their FAQ.. I had no idea what this device was, so I figure a bunch of others don't either.. Essentially an ARM based tiny computer that can apparently play Quake 3 among other applications. Lots of Linux support too. (This is not the full FAQ)

    When will the device be available to purchase?
    We anticipate the device will be available to the general public later in 2011 – at the moment that looks like November.

    How much will it cost?
    We hope to be selling the Model A for $25 and the Model B for $35.

    How do I connect a mouse and keyboard?
    Mice, keyboards, network adapters and external storage will all connect via a USB hub.

    What display can I use?
    There is composite and HDMI out on the board, so you can hook it up to a digital or analogue television or to a DVI monitor.

    What about audio?
    There’s a standard 3.5mm jack, or you can use HDMI. You can add any supported USB microphone via a hub.

    Does the device support networking? Is there Wi-Fi?
    The Model B version of the device includes 10/100 wired Ethernet. There is no Ethernet on the Model A version (which we expect to be taken up mostly by the education market), but Wi-Fi will be available via a standard USB dongle.

    What are the power requirements?
    The device is powered by an external AC adapter, and the Model A consumes around 1W at full load.

    Holy Crap I want one! Or a few!

    1. Re:Excerpts from their FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I had no idea what this device was

      You never heard of this before?You must not come here often.

    2. Re:Excerpts from their FAQ by Lifyre · · Score: 1

      Sometimes you need a reminder. I'm glad to see it is looking to be a very useful computer. Maybe someday they'll be giving these away in cereal boxes.

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    3. Re:Excerpts from their FAQ by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2

      Well, I'd hope some charitable foundation dedicated to education would buy a few million and give them away to high schools.

      Eric Schmidt recently (rightly IMHO) criticised the UK education system for its lack of computer science - here's an answer for him.

    4. Re:Excerpts from their FAQ by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I'd heard of the project, but not of the name. A simple mention of Braben somewhere in the summary would have helped...

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    5. Re:Excerpts from their FAQ by jimicus · · Score: 1

      I have it on good authority that Acorn sold virtually no model As. Apparently it was possible to upgrade the RAM, so it's likely that any that were built wound up being upgraded before they left the warehouse.

      (This authority isn't written, it's someone who worked for Acorn at the time. I believe him, mostly because most software required a model B - the RAM was shared between every component in the system so by the time things like video had been included, there was nothing like 16/32K available to programs).

    6. Re:Excerpts from their FAQ by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      (This authority isn't written, it's someone who worked for Acorn at the time. I believe him...

      It's a fairly well documented fact...people weren't as poor as Acorn had expected.

      A lot of graphics modes needed 20k of the 32k RAM - Model A owners only had text mode games (ie. Acorn text adventures...)

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    7. Re:Excerpts from their FAQ by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

      $25? $35? REALLY?! Holy cow, that's cheaper than most video games!

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  2. $35 computer - dream come true by tp1024 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And people barely notice. This computer is as powerful than anything I had 10 years ago. It can do almost anything you could need - and what it can't do is mostly down to bloated software. Sometimes I have a hard time shaking off the feeling that we've almost stood still for the last decade - but then again, that's a good thing, because it allows the rest of the world to catch up to the high-income countries, by benefiting from ever lower prices.

    The real question, as after any dream that has become true, is: what's next? And I have no idea.

    1. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by DrXym · · Score: 2

      You can buy media players for under $100 which are basically computers. They have firmware, some ARM / MIPS derived SoC which does accelerated video decoding, flash and some ports. Indeed the Roku 2 (priced from $60) apparently has the same Broadcom BCM2835 as this Raspberry Pi does. I guess therefore the Pi is capable of video decoding too but it really depends on the amount of flash it has and other factors.

    2. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Hit submit too soon. The main other factor is just because the hardware does video accelerated decoding doesn't mean its available through software. Most SoCs are loaded with IP tokens which enable / disable certain patented / licenced tech such as h264. It may well be that the Pi does not ship with those tokens. Wait for confirmation I guess.

    3. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by tp1024 · · Score: 1

      But it has neither the software support nor the peripherals to be a computer, rather than just another media player.

    4. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by Cruciform · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We haven't stood still. There are two significant factors at play - performance and miniaturization.
      The bulky CPU that came with a heat sink assembly that took up the space of a small toolbox now fits on the tip of your thumb. The storage is now small and cheap enough that couple with the CPU and mainboard you can put small, powerful computers all over your home -- cheaply. And without having to buy it locked down and as a loss leader for a corporation's accessory market.
      I can't wait to see what's available in 2020.

    5. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

      The Raspberry Pi is using an unknown Broadcom SOC. Broadcom hasn't announced it yet, so the R-Pi team hasn't been able to give out the model number yet.

      The only thing they've confirmed is that it has a nice GPU and its media capabilities are greater than everything currently available.

    6. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by gbjbaanb · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't know where you get that idea - it has hdmi for video output, and it has usb for everything else. My work Dell has usb for all inputs, so I can't see why you think its not a full-blown computer like all the big black boxes we use today.

      It even has full software support as it runs Linux.

    7. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      It would have been nice if the article had contained some specs on CPU / GPU &c.

      I know reading is, like, hard and stuff, but TFA specifically says that it's a Broadcom BCM2835, which is an ARM11 core with an OpenGL 2 ES GPU.

      Makes me wonder how they did it. My desktop computer cannot do this without a huge AGP card.

      Seriously? How old is your desktop. Quake 3 was released in 1999. It ran nicely on my VooDoo 2 (although only at 800x600). It is designed for a fixed-function pipeline. Any mobile phone GPU from the last 5 years will have been capable of running it.

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    8. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by somersault · · Score: 3, Informative

      FTA:

      Obviously, the Raspberry Pi isn’t intended as a gaming platform, but it’s very satisfying to let the Broadcom BCM2835 application processor off the leash (yes, I’m allowed to give you the part number now) and see what it can do in this sphere nonetheless

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    9. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by mounthood · · Score: 3, Informative
      Unfortunately the BCM2835 is not on the Broadcom website, but the BCM2763 is:
      http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763

      Full HD 1080p camcorder capabilities in a cell phone with significantly improved quality over current generation handsets (which generally have VGA or lower resolution camcorders)
      Up to 20 megapixel digital camera with advanced features such as multiple shots per second, image stabilization, face and smile detection and panorama mode
      The ability to render mobile games natively at up to 1080p resolution, which in combination with an on-board HDMI output, allows a console-quality gaming experience on large screen HDTVs
      20% to 50% power reduction in comparison to the prior generation VideoCore® III multimedia processor
      4 to 6 hours of 1080p video recording and 8 to 10 hours of mobile playback, with up to 16 hours of full HD playback over HDMI given sufficient handset storage

      From the "VideoCore® III" page:

      Support for 8 mega pixel camera modules enables a picture quality superior to most digital still cameras, while MPEG-4 video capability at VGA resolution offers state-of-the-art video technology for tape-less camcorders. In addition, support for the H.264 video compression standard enables next-generation cellular phones to incorporate DVB-H mobile TV capability.

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    10. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And people barely notice.

      Average consumer: "What good is a $35 PC if I have to buy a $1000 Monster(R) HDMI cable to connect it to my TV?"

    11. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by DrXym · · Score: 1

      But it has neither the software support nor the peripherals to be a computer, rather than just another media player.

      Most media players are just cut down Linux dists running a media player application of some sort. If the box was hackable and you external storage you could enable swap, slap a few more apps on an external path and do pretty much anything you felt like - performance permitting.

    12. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by DrXym · · Score: 1

      The thing to be aware is that just because the hardware can decode AVC output doesn't mean every device with the chipset will enable it. It's patented technology and these chipsets often require you preload them with a token to enable certain patented / licenced stuff. No token = no support. On top of that even with support you need to know which APIs to hit which decode in hardware. These APIs may be in the SDK or BSP but it doesn't mean end users will have access to them.

    13. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      And people barely notice.

      Average consumer: "What good is a $35 PC if I have to buy a $1000 Monster(R) HDMI cable to connect it to my TV?"

      Back in the day, that was known as terminal face (the expression a customer made when told that his $200 computer would require a $1200 terminal to run).

    14. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      More like "What good is the thing if i gotta program it, build a box to use it, and then buy the crap to hook it up?". Now if you were to build it into say a Sega Nomad style case with 2Gb of NAND onboard and a microSD slot along with a basic Linux with web browser pre installed? I bet you could get the BOM under $50 and so could sell it for $75 and make an absolute killing as a portable emulator/media player/ browser in a box.

      Load in Genesis/MegaDrive, NES, SNES, Master System and just for fun Atari/ColecoVision emulators? i'd snatch one up for $75 without a second thought. Hell i'd probably pick up a couple and start selling them here at the shop. There are a bunch of guys like me that would like to play a little Mortal Kombat or general chaos while waiting in line at the bank.

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    15. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      Haha, I was just imagining someone playing quake3 in the lineup at the bank and their headphones fall out, activating the external speaker* and gunfire suddenly being heard :P

      * Of course the board only has 1 audio output, but I'm assuming a pre-fab box would include a speaker as well

    16. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      If that's true then I can't wait to get one of those. I've always been wanting to build an ultra small computer to do some basic stuff.

    17. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by Nyder · · Score: 1

      And people barely notice.

      Average consumer: "What good is a $35 PC if I have to buy a $1000 Monster(R) HDMI cable to connect it to my TV?"

      rofl.

      I found one of the stupidest post ever on slashdot today (http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2401770&cid=37233534) and your is probably one of the funniest I've ever seen also.

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    18. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by Lennie · · Score: 1

      I guess a screen, a case and some other peripherals will make it more expensive.

      Maybe just a little lower than any ARM/BeagleBoard device.

      For example this is US $200 and during this summer US $150:
      https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ (detable keyboard/touchscreen/2 batteries)

      (no this is not an ad, I don't even own such a device, just trying to make a point about the price)

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    19. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by lmnfrs · · Score: 1

      The other informative thing to check is their previous post - scroll just past the pictures.

    20. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by tramp · · Score: 1

      The BCM2835 is not on the website but the BCM2820 is, take a look at http://www.broadcom.com/products/BCM2820.

    21. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      From the website:

      Provisional specification
      blah
      blah
      1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode
      blah

      If this thing will run XBMC and play MKV files, I'll be on it like white on rice.

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    22. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If it doesn't have fancy shaders it won't run XBMC because (as one of the primary authors schooled me on here long ago) the interface was drawn with shaders on the xbox because otherwise it would be agonizingly slow to do all that fancy alpha stuff. At least, it won't run it as it is today... But mplayer ought to do the right thing, so you just need a file mangler.

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    23. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by rocket+rancher · · Score: 1

      But it has neither the software support nor the peripherals to be a computer, rather than just another media player.

      What? Did you really just assert that the raspberry pi is not a computer because it doesn't have software support or peripherals? Did you even look at the video? I saw a keyboard, mouse and monitor plugged into it, and some of my favorite software *ever* running on it at triple digit framerates. I know some people don't read the actual articles here, but seriously, dude -- at least most people here know what a computer is.

    24. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by mikael · · Score: 1

      Look at a desktop PC - first thing, it's filled mostly with air - that's the actual cooling system - although air is an insulator, blowing it around actually helps cool the components. Next thing, the actual CPU and GPU are tiny bits of silicon. An intel i-7 CPU is only 263mm^2 or about 17mmx17mm. Similarly for a Geforce 9800 GTX+ (= 260mm^2). That's about a size of a pair of standard keys on a desktop keyboard. They could fit together into a single chip die.

      On a desktop, to connect these two together alone (CPU & GPU), you need the die packaging for both chips, the chip boards and sockets (Socket-7 for the I-7, PCIe-2.0 for the GPU), the various glue logic, smoothing capacitors for power, plus the bus backplane. While the GPU and CPU may be clocked at the GHz speeds, PCI Express operates at 250MB/s or 500MB/s per lane, or 16GB combined, but that is shared with other cards like sound, disk drive controllers, embedded network port.

      On a mobile phone, the GPU and CPU are on the same die and packaging. There is no need for the sockets, PCI motherboard, glue logic, bus backplane and everything else. That reduces power demands. The direct connection means that a trade-off between clock-speed and number of stream processors can be made against the latency of the bus connection, thus reducing the need for cooling.

      ARM processors also tend to combine different operation together like DSP chips. You would have a single instruction to add and multiply vector data together as well as increment or decrement the two pointers. That also helps to reduce code size, cache and memory transfers.

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    25. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by evilviper · · Score: 1

      What dream? If you keep checking the bargain-bin, you can get decent old computer parts very cheap. I remember picking-up a new but obsolete mobo and duron CPU combo for $60, about 6 years ago.

      A couple years ago, I was ordering used P4 computer en-mass to upgrade the obsolete workstations for a large company, at $70 each. That's double the price, but those were full computers, case, hard drive, PSU, etc.

      Today, an old P4 system minus HDD goes for $40 (order in pairs for cheaper shipping):
      http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SAMBA845V-24-4-R&cat=SYS

      The above is just a bit light on memory, but a $4 upgrade and it will run RHEL6 just fine (KDE4 is slow), making it vastly more capable and useful than the Pi, if you don't need super low power.

      There have been plenty of super-cheap systems out there, but they're always lacking in some major area that keeps them from being suitable for general-purpose work, and ruins the economics when you consider all the OTHER supporting equipment you need to make it a real, working system. Refurb x86 will continue to be the most economical options for some time to come.

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    26. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      It has OpenGL 2.0...that's shaders.

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    27. Re:$35 computer - dream come true by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

      But it has neither the software support nor the peripherals to be a computer, rather than just another media player.

      A computer is a device which runs turing-equivalent stored programs. This does that. It's a computer. It's several thousand times faster and has several hundred thousand times the storage of the first computer I worked on, and that one supported eighteen simultaneous users. Add a display and a USB hub linking keyboard, mouse, backing store, and you have a 'personal computer' or 'workstation'. What more do you want?

      Personally, I want a beowulf cluster of these!

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  3. Horrendous colors by Lord+Lode · · Score: 1

    Is it due to the video quality, or is the Raspberry Pi itself rendering Quake 3 in horrendous shades of blue and pink?

    1. Re:Horrendous colors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They should re-shoot that before everyone thinks the video rendering sucks.

    2. Re:Horrendous colors by Eil · · Score: 2

      The colors are off because it's a mediocre camera recording a crappy monitor.

  4. Is realism still a relevant goal? by tp1024 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Heroic efforts for marginal improvements in graphics don't help polishing the turd that computer games have become. They barely changed, AI is still crap despite a gazillion fold increase in computing power budgets of games companies.

    Your thinking is perfectly representative of the way how games ended up being they crap they are these days.

    1. Re:Is realism still a relevant goal? by tp1024 · · Score: 1

      ... in computing power and budgets of games companies.

    2. Re:Is realism still a relevant goal? by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2

      I regretted mentioning realism the moment I clicked submit, because I knew some people would latch onto that word and forget everything else I said.

      I only meant that, because arcade-style games are much easier to make good looking than realistic games, Quake 3 can easily "look" like a relevant benchmark despite not properly using a modern GPU.

      Modern engines people develop new games with, like Unity or Unreal 3, work very different from Quake 3 even if you're not going for realism. These would make a much more relevant benchmark.

      (And I still play Quakeworld Team Fortress to this day, so don't lump me in with the graphics-are-everything crowd. Thank you.)

  5. Re:Is Quake 3 still a relevant benchmark? by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This thing isn't meant for playing "games of today". It's just a nice deminstration of the power of this incredibly cheap device. They were only getting about 20fps (albeit in 1080p) in the video, but it's still cool as a hobbyist project.

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  6. Re:yes but.... by zevans · · Score: 2

    I reckon oolite will run on that.

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  7. Re:Is Quake 3 still a relevant benchmark? by garaged · · Score: 1

    Well, that means that it can run much better games since better code can be created for modern GPUs, right ?

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  8. Re:Is Quake 3 still a relevant benchmark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Still, its a 1 Watt, $25 thing that apparently can render Quake3 at 1920x1080 with 4xAA. That's impressive.

    If they can fix the bug they claim to have that reduces performance, it'd be a great hobbyist thing. I'd buy one to hook up to my TV, just because I can.

  9. Re:Is Quake 3 still a relevant benchmark? by whiteboy86 · · Score: 1

    This is very relevant considering big Intel with their integrated GMA (graphics my ass) cards were barely capable to render OpenGL until recently. And this little thing really renders Q3@120fps ?! Hmm, that puts Intel to shame, but still kinda unbelievable...

  10. Re:Is Quake 3 still a relevant benchmark? by cynyr · · Score: 1

    make a $60 version with dual GbE and I'll by 2-5 of the things. It would make a great router. I can't seem to find a linux friendly ARM (read low power board) with >=128MB ram, and dual GbE ports. It also would have to low cost enough to pass the wife test.

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  11. Quake 3 by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    will run on a pentium MMX and a voodoo2

    1. Re:Quake 3 by mr_mischief · · Score: 2

      A Pentium MMX and a Voodoo2 will not fit in your pocket and didn't cost $25 at launch. There is more than one axis for improvement.

    2. Re:Quake 3 by walshy007 · · Score: 1

      at 1920x1080 at 30fps? doubt it. Most voodoo 2 cards don't even have enough video memory for a display buffer that size.

  12. Hell yes! by Oasiz · · Score: 2

    I'm a huge fan of this little device, It's basically a glimpse on the future of computing.

    Imagine atrix-like devices where you can just carry around a core system in your pocket, it scales down to the smaller screen and you can do all kinds of activities on it. Plug it in to an dock and get a full desktop. Imagine work computers like this.

    Also once windows 8 comes out, I see ARM really taking off. A system like this is already pretty much what 80% of offices really need for everyday tasks. A few additional connectors are naturally needed (plus practicality).

    Imagine $60 or even sub-$50 office computer cases (Or small computers that you can carry in the pocket) that eat under 10 watts of electricity and run a full windows desktop. (Yes I know that ARM and x86 apps aren't compatible, but they are porting office over).

    This time computing gets personal again, it's probably your own phone that powers your work-desktop in the future.
    Sorry for the "market speech", but I am just so excited myself.

    ARM is the future, plus it runs quake3.

    1. Re:Hell yes! by ebenupton · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's certainly our thinking. You can see what we're doing here as a first stab at redefining the price point and set of tradeoffs for an entry-level desktop PC. It's not perfect (the ARM11 in particular is only just good enough), but I suspect in ten years' time we'll be looking back wondering why we used to spend a couple of hundred bucks on a system unit for a machine to surf the web and run office software.

    2. Re:Hell yes! by Oasiz · · Score: 1

      Awesome!

      Tradeoffs are understandable, everything is naturally expandable in the future once you get a solid framework to build on.
      I foresee these exploding in popularity once you get these out and people realize how easily and cheaply they can build lowpower application-specific systems (A Beowulf cluster of these!), and possibly even desktop replacements in the future.
      I know that I will get a few of these for myself at least :)

      Good luck with the development!

    3. Re:Hell yes! by ebenupton · · Score: 1

      Tight fit. Will your credit card fit in an Altoid's tin (sorry, don't have one to hand)?

    4. Re:Hell yes! by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      run a full windows desktop. (Yes I know that ARM and x86 apps aren't compatible, but they are porting office over).

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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  13. This is a huge deal by Fallingwater · · Score: 1

    A fully functional general-purpose computer with decent power for $35 is absolutely groundbreaking. I can't wait to be doing productive work (and maybe retrogaming!) on a little stick of circuitry that eats less power than a freakin' christmas light. My only gripe with it is that it runs Ubuntu; I'd much prefer it to run Debian - though I guess it'll be a question of (little) time before someone makes Debian work on it.

    WANT WANT WANT. I think I'll buy two or tree $35 ones. Hell, it's the first computer you can buy more than one of just because, hell, why not?

    1. Re:This is a huge deal by Saffaya · · Score: 1

      In the comments relative to running Quake 3 on the Raspberry Pi, they state the OS running in the video is Debian.

      http://www.raspberrypi.org/?p=106#comments

    2. Re:This is a huge deal by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 1

      And also the FAQ says, "What Linux distros will be supported at launch? Ubuntu, Debian and hopefully Fedora and ArchLinux will be supported from the start. "

    3. Re:This is a huge deal by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Debian w/ LXDE is great for low-spec systems. Almost as convenient as Ubuntu and WAY lighter on system resources.

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    4. Re:This is a huge deal by dominux · · Score: 1

      this is incorrect. Ubuntu won't run on it as it is using ARMv6 and we build for ARMv7 now. Debian would work great. If someone wants to build a derivative of Ubuntu for v6 then that would be awesome, but the official Ubuntu builds are not going to work.

    5. Re:This is a huge deal by dominux · · Score: 1

      It will be Debian, maybe Fedora. It won't be Ubuntu on that chip.

    6. Re:This is a huge deal by Fallingwater · · Score: 1

      Even better. I remember reading it would run Ubuntu and haven't gotten more recent info since then. Now I want four.

  14. Re:Closed hardware: no deal. by flimflammer · · Score: 1

    Sorry you feel that way. I still can't wait.

  15. Hardware or software rendering? by md65536 · · Score: 1

    I RTFA and I looked up the raspberry pi on wikipedia, but I must be dum cuz I still don't know if it has any special hardware for rendering. Is it cpu only?

    Wikipedia mentions only OpenGL ES 2.0 in the pi's specs.
    Does OpenGL ES imply any hardware acceleration or specific chips?

  16. Re:Closed hardware: no deal. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Bad news, that's how it is for pretty much every mobile device in existence.

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  17. Thumb2? probably a non-issue by lenski · · Score: 1

    Interesting point on thumb2. I've been working with a radio module running an Atmel AT91SAM3U, whose processor core is a Cortex-M3. Totally an embedded SOC, but its lack of tons of RAM and MMU is a function of its application market positioning, not the ISA. Upon beginning the project, I was doubtful about the thumb2 ISA, but it has surprised me:

    The fact that it's not the original ARM ISA has never been an impediment. In fact I would say that its code density is likely a contributor to performance, as it either runs well with small cache, or runs really well with larger caches.

    Our project has been implemented using a normal GCC 4.3 series compiler, and I have not hit any compiler/ISA strangeness at any time. This includes our use of some software floating-point arithmetic (not much, though).

    The Raspberry Pi would be a *fabulous* micro-server. (I am not a gamer or media enthusiast, YMMV)