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Judge Nixes, Lowers Oracle's $1.3B Award Against SAP

Posted by timothy on from the larry-will-still-be-ok dept.

itwbennett writes "Federal judge Phyllis Hamilton has overturned the $1.3 billion judgment Oracle won against SAP and has approved SAP's request that Oracle accept a lower award, which would negate the need for a new trial." Oracle is in the habit of asking for awards in the billions; with that model, they really can make it up on volume.

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  1. "asking for .. billions" by oGMo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oracle is in the habit of asking for awards in the billions

    ...and they've clearly carried the practice over to lawsuits...

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    1. Re:"asking for .. billions" by Riceballsan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I wonder if their outrageous claims give them legal viability.
      "We want 100 billion dollars from them"
      Judge: No
      OK 50 billion
      No
      5 billion then
      No
      2 billion
      That dosn't sound like much, OK.

      Defendent: But they haven't even proven we have done anything wrong
      Judge: Well they aren't asking much lets just give it to them so they stop bugging us.

  2. $272 million is still huge! by Ossifer · · Score: 2

    I should think Oracle would be happy to take that and have case closed. Somehow I doubt actual damages were that high...

  3. Re:Corporapocalypse by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    They take and take, and they never give back.

    Shame on you, sir, for that vile calumny!

    They've given a lot of money to yacht builders, and a yacht to Larry.

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  4. Re:Corporapocalypse by St.Creed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean shops like SUN, BEA, PeopleSoft, Hyperion and Siebel, to name a few of the bigger ones they gobbled up? GP isn't talking about mini-shops. Gobbling them up (or not) has no impact. We're talking about multibillion dollar mergers that leave little competition and huge barriers to entry for new companies.

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  5. Imaginary Customers by Swanktastic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Rather than providing evidence of SAP's actual use of the copyrighted works, and objectively verifiable number of customers lost as a result, Oracle presented evidence of the purported value of the intellectual property as a whole, elicited self-serving testimony from its executives regarding the price they claim they would have demanded in an admittedly fictional negotiation, and proffered the speculative opinion of its damages expert, which was based on little more than guesses about the parties' expectations."

    This comment from the judge is fascinating considering every software company out there pegs their piracy losses at face value rather than pointing to evidence of lost sales.

  6. It's all about the share prices by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2

    These lawsuits look good to the shareholders. They short circuit their critical thinking skills in very much the same way gambling does. Indeed these lawsuits are just that, corporate gambling with potentially massive payouts.

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  7. Note to SAP by roman_mir · · Score: 2

    SAP. It's much cheaper to hire an assassin than to pay 1.3 billion to an extortionist (and it's never the right policy to pay the Dane-Geld). I think extortion is never right and above certain level any response becomes justified. People dealt with extortionists very harshly when they could over the history of human race. I don't see many people crying over Oracle's CEO should something nasty happen to him.

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