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Android Tricorder Killed By CBS

First time accepted submitter josn writes "Today I found out that Moonlight's Tricorder app, which I always install on Android devices, is gone. Google received a DMCA letter from CBS. I think it is a shame that CBS thinks it needs to kill a free and open source project giving a ad-less app. I, for one, sent a message to CBS explaining that this fan-supported app is not bad, but good for them, and asked them to reconsider. I hope, especially for the author, who must have spent a lot of time on this app, that they do."

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  1. Lame! by barlevg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I love that app. Does anyone know, for those of us who still have it installed, Android App Market doesn't automatically uninstall apps without user permission (like they'll remove books from the Kindle) in cases like this, do they?

    1. Re:Lame! by Manos_Of_Fate · · Score: 2

      Like Apple, they have the ability, but IIRC the only circumstances under which it has been used were to remove malware that made its way into the Andriod store.

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    2. Re:Lame! by Artifex · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, but last night I had it installed when I wiped & installed a later ROM. When it got through auto-reinstalling my backed up apps from Market, Tricorder was no longer there :(

      Just goes to show, ya gotta back up your software locally (In this case, the .apks); can't trust a vendor to store it for you.

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    3. Re:Lame! by RobbieThe1st · · Score: 2

      *sigh* I've been saying this for a long time.
      This is why you shouldn't use other companies to store your files, unless you locally encrypt it first - don't want a rogue DCMA taking down your files, now, do you?
      You should also keep multiple local copies, just in case. It's always worth it.

    4. Re:Lame! by nbetcher · · Score: 4, Informative

      No. It does not. Also, you can still install the Tricorder app by finding the APK on the web, checking 'Unknown Sources' (Settings->Applications), then issuing: 'adb install tricorder.apk' while your phone is connected to a PC that has the ADB drivers installed. Otherwise you can download the APK to your phone and use Astro Filemanager to install it.

    5. Re:Lame! by JesusFreke · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Unknown Sources" has nothing to do with using adb install. It will work whether or not you have "Unknown Sources" checked or not. That is only if you want to allow other applications on the device to install applications e.g. allow the browser to install an apk that it downloaded, or allow a third party market application to install an application.

    6. Re:Lame! by Zen+Punk · · Score: 2

      I think you're doing it wrong.

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  2. Damn it Jim... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I'm a doctor, not a copyright lawyer.

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  3. And now by geekoid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    we see the power of the android system.

    I can still load the app from other sources.

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    1. Re:And now by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

      You could follow the link in the summary. Tip: code.google.com.

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    2. Re:And now by Badaro · · Score: 3, Informative
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  4. Re:Its the first app I install ... installed by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    CBS. What have they done, that is worth shitting on, in 30 years?

    I say that a bunch of Anonymous types ought to buy microwave equipment and blast their Sat feed offline.

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  5. For information about what it was by Necroman · · Score: 2

    A little googling turn up this. Looks like it would have been fun to play with.

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    1. Re:For information about what it was by element-o.p. · · Score: 3, Informative

      Once you get past the geek-factor -- and it's considerable -- the tricorder app actually is kind of cool. It wraps several useful functions into a single app, and they all work rather well. I wish the accelerometer would display in some kind of useful unit, rather than a generic graph, and I wish it had some kind of a peak indicator, but even as it is, it was a useful app.

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  6. Re:"...a add-less app..." Really? by scarboni888 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No it's spelled right - the tricorder app is known for only being able to perform subtraction operations. :)

  7. Re:Another reason not to develop android apps by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As if a stupid little app that just looks like a Star Trek tricorder doesn't qualify as "complete shit". Whoever developed that ought to be using their time on more productive pursuits.

    Like what? Posting on Slashdot?

    Just sayin'

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  8. Looks like they took down most of them.... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 2

    I can only find one tricorder app on the Android market. And the one I have installed has gone missing. At least they didn't remotely remove it.

    Meh, hopefully they can bring them back with a similar name. Quadcorder maybe?

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    1. Re:Looks like they took down most of them.... by tebee · · Score: 2

      Design patents are only valid for 14 years, so would have expired now.

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    2. Re:Looks like they took down most of them.... by JockTroll · · Score: 2

      Roddenberry himself said

      Roddenberry is dead. He can't say anything anymore. He can't pay a lawyer to say anything. Seriously, in a world where contracts are renegotiated on a daily bases to favor the richer, do you believe a corpse's empty words count for anything?

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  9. Damned if the do damned if they don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone always thinks it's an evil corporation trying to spoil fun but there's a fundamental reason. If they don't defend trademarks and copyrights then other corporations can use the names to sell products. What's to stop Apple or Microsoft from releasing a new PDA or tablet computer called a "Tricorder"? They can say CBS failed to enforce the trademark so it no longer applies. What if the device sucks and the name Tricorder takes on negative image or worse yet becomes a bad joke? Then their trademark overall is damaged and it wasn't even from a product they produced. Trademarks are like left over budget money, use it or loose it or in this can enforce it. Change the law so they don't have to enforce every instance and create a system where freeware and small providers can ask to use the name and maybe things would be different.

    1. Re:Damned if the do damned if they don't by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      What's to stop Apple or Microsoft from releasing a new PDA or tablet computer called a "Tricorder"?

      Where do I buy a CBS Tricorder?

    2. Re:Damned if the do damned if they don't by kat_skan · · Score: 2

      You don't. If you read the takedown notice it turns out CBS has some kind of PADD-themed Star Trek triva app in the Itunes store and they don't want competition. Which is sensible considering the comments make it sound pretty pants.

  10. Re:Another reason not to develop android apps by barlevg · · Score: 5, Informative

    The app is surprisingly useful: accelerometer, audio spectrum analyzer, compass to name a few... it does everything you'd expect a "real" tricorder to do, with the only limitations being the phone hardware.

  11. I don't get what the deal is here. by Dachannien · · Score: 2

    You can't copyright the word "tricorder". The app (according to the posts that someone else posted here) doesn't infringe on any copyrights of screen design or anything like that (and it looks more like the LCARS interface from TNG, which CBS holds no claim to - that would be Viacom, owners of Paramount).

    There is only one live entry for a registered trademark for "tricorder", and that's held by Paul Allen's company named Kiha Software, which holds the trademark as it relates to mobile device programs.

    So, where does CBS get the balls to get this app taken down?

  12. Re:Trademark by DiabolicallyRandom · · Score: 2

    Corporate ownership ----- At Star Trek's creation, Norway Productions, Roddenberry's production company, shared ownership with Desilu and, after Gulf+Western acquired Desilu in 1967, with Paramount Pictures, the conglomerate's film studio. Paramount did not want to own the unsuccessful show; net profit was to be shared between Norway, Desilu/Paramount, Shatner, and NBC but Star Trek lost money, and the studio did not expect to syndicate it. In 1970 Paramount offered to sell all rights to Star Trek to Roddenberry, but he could not afford the $150,000 ($848,000 today) price. In 1989 Gulf+Western renamed itself as Paramount Communications, and in 1994 merged with Viacom.[70]:218,220,223 In 2005 Viacom divided into CBS Corporation, whose CBS Television Studios subsidiary retained the Star Trek brand, and Viacom, whose Paramount Pictures subsidiary retained the Star Trek film library and rights to make additional films.[71]

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek (bottom of page, which has original sources)

  13. You'd think after the beating Sony took ... by slashfoxi · · Score: 2

    That corporations would be a little less eager to tempt Anonymous.

  14. Re:Its the first app I install ... installed by sarysa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's available on google code still. It's a little bit of a pain to build...I had to combine the HermitAndroid and HermitLibrary src into the Tricorder project, and then delete said libraries. (but I build with CLI, eclipse may end up being easy peasy) svn checkout http://moonblink.googlecode.com/svn/trunk moonblink-read-only As I'm not an anonymous coward, if I distributed the APK, would the DMCA trolls smash my head open?

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  15. Re:Damn by iluvcapra · · Score: 2, Informative

    Klingon cruisers are definitely equipped with photon torpedoes in-canon; they use they against V'Ger in ST:TMP. Birds of Prey fire torpedoes in ST6. It is a cloaked Bird of Prey that fires while cloaked, so its possible previous variations were different; Christopher Lloyd'd (Kruge's) ship in ST3 destroyed the Grissom with an undisclosed weapon that were probably disruptors, though later, after being damaged it alternates and fires what are almost definitely torpedoes.

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  16. Re:Its the first app I install ... installed by sarysa · · Score: 2
    Blah formatting. I was in such a rush I forgot to add some br's.

    svn checkout http ://moonblink.googlecode.com/svn/trunk moonblink-read-only

    (remove the space...can't stop it from being turned into a link)

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  17. Re:Killed? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

    Look and feel can be covered by a design patent.

    However I would think any such design patent would be expired or moot given the time frames involved.

  18. Thanks CBS! by Radak · · Score: 2

    I hadn't heard of this app before. Thanks to CBS giving it some free publicity, I have now, and found the apk on another site.

    Pretty cool app. Thank you CBS and your lawyers for cluing me to it.

  19. Re:Damn by Commontwist · · Score: 2

    Substitute Ferengi (fused with tribble DNA) for MPAA and that should help the conceptualization.

  20. LCARS is the problem by steveha · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary includes a link to the wiki article about it being killed by lawyers. This in turn includes the text of the DMCA takedown notice. Take a look:

    lxxxxxxn@cbs.com to support-portal@google.com
    Reply - More info Aug 23
    Options

    AutoDetectedBrowser: Internet Explorer 7
    AutoDetectedOS: Windows XP
    IIILanguage: en
    IssueType: lr_dmca
    Language: en
    agree1: checked
    agree: checked
    android_app_developer_1: Moonblink
    android_app_name_1: Tricorder
    android_app_url_1: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.hermit.tricorder
    companyname: CBS
    country_residence: US
    description_of_copyrighted_work: LCARS graphical user interface
    dmca_signature: Lxxxxxxn
    dmca_signature_date_day: 23
    dmca_signature_date_month: 8
    dmca_signature_date_year: 2011
    full_name: Lxxxxxxn
    hidden_product: androidmarket
    location_of_copyrighted_work: LCARS graphical user interface, an example of which can be viewed at the URL below: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-trek-padd/id446277240?mt=8 represented_copyright_holder: CBS Studios Inc.

    Now, I used to have an app on my Palm PDA that pretended to be a tricorder but didn't actually do anything (other than make some chirp noises and display various jokes). That's not what this is; this "tricorder" app displays the outputs from various sensors on an Android phone. You can get a magnetic compass, sound data from the microphone, GPS data, etc. The DMCA takedown isn't about this functionality, but just about the LCARS interface.

    The solution is obvious: reskin the app, using an Android sort of theme, and for extra safety change the name. The result shouldn't bother CBS anymore.

    I don't even really like LCARS much.

    P.S. I presume that CBS will go after the people who install LCARS themes on their desktops. What a waste of time.

    steveha

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    1. Re:LCARS is the problem by steveha · · Score: 2

      Oh, and if you aren't geeky enough to already know what this "LCARS" thing is:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCARS

      steveha

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  21. Re:Another reason not to develop android apps by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    I had a joke app like this on my old PalmOS devices. It didn't have any real scanning functions, it had configurable messages you could bring up after a "scan" by pressing one of the scroll buttons on the PDA. I programmed messages into it like "No intelligent life found" and "Biohazard: Extreme bacterial infestation detected" and "Methane eruption source located"

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  22. Re:Trademark by One+Louder · · Score: 2

    If it's about the trademark, why file for a DMCA takedown, since that's for copyrights, not trademarks.

  23. Contract violation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricorder In Gene Roddenberry contract if any of the technology in star trek gets invented they can use the name free of charge. Is it that now he is gone they will ignore that part of there original contract?

  24. But leave the iPhone version up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The take down the free Android version but leave the pay-for iPhone version?

    http://web.me.com/mike.mcfin/iLCARS/iLCARS.html

  25. Re:Its the first app I install ... installed by joe_frisch · · Score: 2

    I wonder why CBS was so clueless? It was FREE ADVERTISING! Its not in a competing market . Everyone who gets this fun app, or shows it to their friends is reminding everyone of the Star Trek series and movies. Some (small, but not zero) number of those people will go home and rent or stream one of the shows.

    It was a really fun app - and impressive for just how much the sensors on a modern phone can do.

  26. Re:Not Again by FxChiP · · Score: 2

    I have two problems with what you're saying:

    1.) Moonblink's Tricorder app was neither made nor intended to divert profits or attention away from the Star Trek franchise/collection of works. In fact, it was written in homage to the series, and it's really hard to imagine how it could even unintentionally harm CBS in any way, shape or form, especially given that the app (and the part of Star Trek it's emulating) is fairly trivial. It was basically harmless. CBS squelching it seems more out of spite or misguided self-preservation than anything else.
    2.) What if CBS doesn't make a Tricorder app -- or doesn't even intend to? If CBS can't produce or deliver something which a lot of people enjoy (or so it seems), and a fan of the franchise can and does, why should CBS actively prevent the fan from doing so? If they can't do it (and don't even want to), no one can? That seems awfully childish. Especially considering -- and I'm repeating myself here -- the Tricorder app posed absolutely no threat to the brand, and may have even earned it a tiny bit of recognition. It never purported to be official, authentic, or representative of CBS in any way, shape or form (actually, I think it purported to not represent CBS at all).

    This isn't piracy. This is an original creation that bore a mere cosmetic resemblance to certain elements of a fictional universe and was not released for a profit -- additionally, its source code is freely and publicly available. There was no real or even potential harm being done to CBS, Star Trek, or anything related, as far as I can see. Why should CBS be acting against things that do it no harm? Is there something I'm missing?

  27. Re:Its the first app I install ... installed by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

    Well, ever since they stopped the Star Trek series, it's still been going on in the minds of fans.
    The only chance CBS has of truely killing this brand is by making sure it isn't referenced anywhere.
    It's the only way to ensure they will fail when they will inevitably try to resurrect the Star Trek franchise.

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  28. Re:Another reason not to develop android apps by MrKaos · · Score: 3, Informative

    The app is surprisingly useful: accelerometer, audio spectrum analyzer, compass to name a few... it does everything you'd expect a "real" tricorder to do, with the only limitations being the phone hardware.

    exactly, it is surprisingly useful. Surely it's possible for the app author to have the app exist just without a lCars skin? (maybe someone else can make one)

    I mean, seriously, fuck you CBS, for ending my last bit of nerdiness fun with Star Trek. CBS have well and truly killed the innocent fun of ST more effectively than any Borg could. If I could shit in their mouths I would for the crap that dribbles of their chins.

    Thank you moonblink for giving us this app while we could have it, and I will continue to enjoy it on my droid while I can. However it is OSS, where can I get the source and can you GPL 3 the shit out of it so that, somehow, CBS can't use the code base?

    If Star Trek was a real utopian future, it would be an Open Source one I simply couldn't imaging a situation below happening

    • JLP: Mr Worf Fire Phasers and a full photon torpedo spread
    • WORF; Captain, Phasers and Photon torpedos are inoperable
    • JLP; Lt Worf, get the weapons operational and fire on that ship or we are all dead
    • WORF; Sir I cannot, the console is reading an obscure error message I have never seen before
    • JLP; Mr you are a trained federation officer, don't give me excuses a cadet would, fix the problem
    • WORF; Sir, I cannot, it says "licence key expired, enter new license key
    • RIKER; What is a license key?
    • DATA; A licence key is a obscure reference to a late twentieth century method of limiting the capabilities of computer systems to extract payment, it was often used with other techniques such as...
    • WORF; This enemy has the guile of a Romulan and the treachery of a Ferengi slave trader (Worf smashes his fist into the console in utter frustration)
    • JLP; Lt Le Forge, get us out of here maximum warp
    • Le FORGE; Captian, I love to comply but the anti-matter injector controller control systems are saying things I've never seen before
    • RIKER; Let me guess, another licence key expiry, the damn ship is falling apart, but it's still in one peice..
    • Le FORGE; No sir, the controller system is saying it has encountered a patent violation and cannot continue
    • DATA; As I was saying Sir, with other techniques such as patent encumberance, licence revocation and software keys. Generally it was found to limit innovation as it reduced the number of minds able to create and solve problems the human race faced with software. Those who did were branded Pirates and "Open Source Hippies"
    • JLP; Hippies?, I'm ashamed just how much like the Ferengi we were...
    • RIKER; (whispers to Picard) Captain, if we can stop them they can take the entire Federation without firing a shot
    • (just then the com heralds a message from Dr Crusher)
    • CRUSHER; Captain, all my medical equipment has suddenly lost all but the most basic functionality
    • JLP; We are encountering similar issue Dr Crusher, are there any messages
    • CRUSHER; Yes Captain, it's saying that our trial period has ended and we will have to "purchase" a full licence to access all the functionality, Captain we have wounded...
    • JLP; (just as LeForge steps out of the Turbo Lift) Dr Crusher, you will just have to resort to some of that "old Fashioned" medicine you speak of and...
    • WORF; Captain we are being hailed by the enemy vessel
    • JLP; On Screen
    • CBS MANAGEMENT; We've noticed that you have not been pulling the consistent ratings you've done in the past so we are pulling the plug, wind your series up in an express way that make some sense of the story line, you won't be funded past a 7th season
    • JLP; Release my ship immediately, we have no expectations of being good all the time, just the best we can be, now release my ship
    • CBS MANAGEMENT; Yeeees, except it's not really your ship it'
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