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Why We Don't Need Gigabit Networks (Yet)

AmyVernon writes "Most computers today can't support gigabit connections and current Wi-Fi networks can't offer those speeds either. The first trial of Sonic.Net's gigabit network was a speed test on a generic laptop that showed off 420 Mbps down; the laptop couldn't handle a full gig. Plus, few applications need those speeds. It's hard to justify such a huge investment in a network that will have few subscribers and few applications that need it. Of course, that can change, and then these networks will be vital. This story has a good analysis of where things stand and what has to change."

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  1. Could Not Disagree More by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gigabit networks are important when working with almost any kind of file copy. I am not sure the last time someone tried to backup even just 100GB of data (Think backups) over a 100 megabit network. Copies like that can take for ever a fully saturate 100 megabit network and slow down traffic for everyone. While copies over gigabit rarely use the entire pipe its good to know that there is still bandwidth left over for other tasks.

    1. Re:Could Not Disagree More by buyvalve · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not too clear from the title but the article is referring to internet connections, not home/business networks.

  2. HERETICS! by iCEBaLM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How DARE you say we don't need faster networks! This article should be purged from the interwebs and timothy should be strung up by his gonads for even considering posting it!

    1. Re:HERETICS! by msauve · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The guy being quoted (Jasper) has a pretty weak argument. It's based on there only being a single computer accessing the network. Add in multiple channels of streaming HD video, multiple computers/users in a household, etc., and you can easily fill that pipe that his cheap laptop could only use half of.

      The article is poorly written. It mentions "Jasper's ISP," but Jasper is CEO of an ISP. So is this a competitor offering the gigabit for $70/month? If you dig just a bit, you'll find he sells 10 Mb Ethernet connections for $600/month, so perhaps that's the real reason he doesn't think $70/month for gigabit service makes sense.

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  3. Infrastructure is long term. by Above · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The reason this post is stupid is that infrastructure is long term. When you go to the trouble of sending out a crew to dig up and put fiber in the ground your putting in an infrastructure asset that should have a 15-30 year lifespan. The fact that can average machine can't saturate it today means we're being forward thinking.

  4. The idea of faster network... by mario_grgic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    is not for one computer to saturate it, but for 10 machines to get decent throughput simultaneously.

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  5. Stupid article by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Tonight, I will want to watch a movie on netflix. So will my wife. So will my daughter. And they won't be the same movie. Now, 'splain to me how a gigabit (or multigigabit) connection is going to stand in the way of our individual entertainment needs? Oh, that's right, it won't. In fact it will foster greater consumption of digital goods. Now, explain how a gigabit or multigigabit connection is going to hinder that kind of commerce. Oh, that's right - it won't. In fact, it will do just the opposite.

    When you wake up to the obvious facts of 1999, let me know, and I'll give you an invite to the 21st century. Cuz I'm k3vvL and rollz like dat.

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  6. Live streaming by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The streaming model can die the death it deserves at that point.

    Streaming is still the only model I can see for live events such as news talk shows, sports, scripted sports (e.g. WWE PPV), concerts, and the like where viewing begins before the whole video has even been recorded.

  7. Re:Fileserver by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, but the argument is "this cheap and shitty laptop could only manage to use half of the gig connection, so therefore no one needs gig speeds for the home".

    An argument that is easily destroyed by saying "ok, do you live alone? Do you have more than one person using a computer at the same time?"

    It's not just servers. I share a house with 4 other people and we can all watch HD streaming video on the connection we have, just. If the bandwidth goes up a little, or people start using off-site backup more frequently I can see a market for a consumer-level gig connection. I know you can already get them in some other European countries (here in the UK, the best you can get on a consumer budget is 100Mb (soon to be 200Mb) from Virgin cable).

    One shitty laptop might choke on a gig connection, but three or four computers will happily share it.

  8. What the hell are they talking about? by mysidia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My organization is on the verge of needing to move our equipment to 10gig soon, because the 1gig network is starting to become a serious bottleneck...

  9. Re:Follow the money... by rthille · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um, probably not. He's rolling out fiber in my town of 7000. But it's also his business to know whether it's really going to be saturated so they can do the right network on the backend. Sonic.net is a pretty kick-ass ISP. They instituted outbound SMTP blocking. But they noticed I'm running my own SMTP server and sent me an email saying they weren't blocking SMTP to/from me, but I could enable/disable it just by visiting my member account page. Also, they just rolled out free fax numbers (gateway to PDF/email) and outbound faxing for everyone.

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  10. Re:Big surprise: Bad Summary by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I read the article as a laptop being too slow because of its drive not handling data that quickly.

    That neatly bypasses a very real need for high speed low latency remote connections where disk speed is irrelevant -- remote desktops, remote apps and VPN, often in combinations. And in combination with other things that suck bandwidth too.

    There's more to bandwidth than file transfers.