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Anonymous Kills Websites, Cartels Kill Bloggers
An anonymous reader writes "While drug cartels in Mexico are disemboweling people they accuse of blogging about drug violence, Anonymous busies itself taking down Mexican government websites. With all the problems facing people in Mexico right now, including drug cartels extorting teachers for 50% of their pay and killing schoolchildren (thus shutting down the school system), Mexico's biggest oil field in terminal decline and drug cartels kidnapping busloads of people and forcing them into gladiator-style contests to the death, Anonymous' actions appear particularly petty."
We need to increase spending on the war on drugs, thus increasing scarcity and profit margins.
Deaths from blogging accidents are about to go way up.
Legal trade causes far less trouble, clearly the best way forward is to legalise the trade and use the extra tax income to police and jail those who still engage in crime.
has the moron who has submitted this, asked himself, how the hell drug cartels become able to do those things that you dont even see in civil wars ? do you think it could be possible without assistance from within government ? note that government in mexico is extremely corrupt.
and what relevance does anonymous's actions have to this ? this seems like moronic bashing just because you want to bash.
quality of accepted submissions have been declining lately.
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Never heard of Desaparecidos, I take it? Your precious right-wing paramilitaries are a LARGE part of why Central America is having such problems with violence today.
... bridges hanging from the cartel members?
I remember when the online community castigated Yahoo for cooperating with the Chinese, a couple of years ago. People talked about it like it was a choice between giving the Chinese the information they wanted, or not giving it to them; nobody considered that the Chinese could get the information by threatening the Chinese employees of Yahoo who had access to the information, or by alternate (and even less friendly) methods. What nobody seemed to realize is that when you're dealing with certain kinds of things (like criminal organizations and repressive governments), things don't stay in online. There are kinetic repurcussions to actions, and if the 'bad people' are more comfortable in the real world than the online one, they're going to show up on your doorstep, not in your inbox.
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RIAA Label Used In Massive Cocaine Trafficking Ring
http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-label-used-in-massive-cocaine-trafficking-ring-110916/
Earlier this year record label boss Jimmy Rosemond was arrested on the suspicion of leading a massive cocaine trafficking ring.
The founder of Czar Entertainment used shipments of music equipment to transfer cocaine across the United States.
These shipments went to several music studios, and according to a recent court filing uncovered by The Smoking Gun, Interscope Records is one of them.
This suggests that people at the RIAA label were in on the game.
Previously entertainment industry representatives have suggested that piracy can be linked to organized crime, and the above suggests that the same can be said for the music industry.
How many people in the music industry were part of the drug ring remains unknown at this point, but we would advise the RIAA to carefully investigate its members to avoid the practices from escalating.
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Of course those actions appear petty. Petty is 99% of what Anonymous gets its kicks from. From abusing 12 year old girls (even if they kind of asked for it) to posting insulting comments about physically disabled people. The stuff like Project Chanology (the attacks on Scientology) was an aberration and really involved more non-Chan New Friends then it did Chan Old Friends, even though it started on the Chans. Anonymous originally got media attention for Habo Hotel/Second Life raids and harassing people on MySpace/Facebook.
Anonymous isn't your friend. Anonymous aren't moral crusaders. Anonymous are in it for the lulz.
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pull all the troops out of afghanistan and iraq and send them in to mexico to hunt down and kill these drug smuggler cartels before this sort thing becomes common in the USA
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They aren't interested in a fight, they want head lines.
If they had balls they would shut down every cartel in the world, but you know, that would require a gut check they can never meet.
It is one thing to go after groups who have the power to jail you but another to go after groups that WILL kill you.
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IF "Anonymous" want to regain even the tiniest sliver of support, they'll try to stop the hack and release of petty information such as celebrity cell phones, and start taking down the EVIL guys, such as the drug cartels.
Liberals had already learned ... round the time the War On Drugs began... i.e. a long fucking time ago, that War On Drugs wasn't good.
What kinda retarded shit is it to blame Libruls for Mexico's problems?
While, even as a liberal, I find your solution somewhat appealing, being a liberal I can think it through more than one step, and therefore realize that a ruthless right-wing (why RIGHT wing, fascist sympathiser, are you?) death squad might JUST lead to other problems.
I wouldn't even reply to this except it has a +3 already.
As for REAL solutions to Mexico's problems, it's beyond me. You too, apparently.
Maybe LEFT-wing death squads killing anyone looking ... wrong. Or rich. Yeah, that'll fix everything. /sarcasm
What would really help is if the US cleaned up it's drug addictions then there would be zero market. Or if the US didn't force their war on drugs onto other countries then the cartels wouldn't be fighting violence with violence so much.
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and drug cartels kidnapping busloads of people and forcing them into gladiator-style contests to the death
Links to The Daily Mail, which is nearly as bad as a Goatse link.
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Or we could stop militarizing law enforcement, and try a new, less violent approach to drug policy (like, say, legalization).
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FYI: "Los Zetas", among the more competent and sociopathic of the current players, are drawn heavily from the ranks of the Mexican(and to a lesser extent other Latin American) special forces groups. Even some School of the Americas(sorry, "Institute for Intra-Hemispheric Cooperation") alumni.
Other than some pretty tepid Shining Path activity in Peru, left-wing militancy in Latin America just isn't that lively anymore. It's a mixture of apolitical profiteers and former rightwing state jackboots who realized that the money in the private sector is substantially better...
Anonymous would get my respect if they used their hacking skills to infiltrate the murderous thugs instead of defacing government websites.
This Slashdot post is Tabloid quality journalism. What is this post except an invitation for readers to cluck in dismay like chickens.
This post consists of headlines from separate uncoordinated news sources describing physically and chronologically separate events. The entire post is a twisted criticism of yet further unrelated Internet punks with an opinion.
Part of the problem with the post is the underlying events in Mexico are serious but the subject matter and invitation of the post are a distraction from the substance of the post.
Okay, betterunixthanunix made a typo, but while you seem to know that heroin and heroine are different, you don't seem to know what a heroine actually is. Hint: needing to be rescued does not make a girl a heroine. You lose at internets sir.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
Seriously. If they truly want to help people, they wuld be helping the government fight the drug cartel nightmare that is happening right now.
Douchbags.
Hell, whose to say a anonymous isn't being manipulated by a drug cartel?
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People drinking booze isn't that big a deal. People on the harder drugs leads to all sorts of problems - crime included.
There is no harder drug than alcohol. It is so addictive that withdrawal can kill you. You can't say the same about meth, PCP, crack cocaine, or heroin. Further, no drug is more strongly associated with violent behavior. If society has found a way to co-exist with the most dangerous drug in existance, why can't we do the same for every other drug?
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The major drug problem between the US and Mexico is Marijuana. Our culture is very "meh" on having it outlawed, so there is a higher market for it, unlike drugs like heroin and meth with scares the crap out of most people, including the pot smokers among us. So it's not as though all those weed sales will transfer to cocaine or heroin if marijuana is legalized. They'll simply go out of business, or become legitimate, like beer producers did. Beer producers didn't say, "Shit, we can't dodge taxes and shoot at the federal lawmen anymore... so screw beer, we're going to start selling heroin!"
No, they went legit, and the guns went away. The gangs and mafias changed to do other illegal things, but they lost a huge portion of income. The same would happen with marijuana.
By the way, all those liquor taxes are paying for local community services, like schools. This is taxable, just like liquor, cigarettes, or any other luxury item.
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Just have someone blog under the name Pedro Nadie or whatever. Identify him as living just outside a small town in Northern Mexico and have him really piss off the cartels. When they come to get him, the little cabin is surrounded by the army. Game over.
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True, but it does so very rarely. If someone dies during withdrawal, it's almost always due to complicating factors like frailty due to AIDS or concurrent alcohol withdrawal.
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This is not only about drug traffic anymore. These cartels are expanding into 23 different delictive activities (search for Eduardo Buscaglia's conferences and interviews in Youtube), and are now trying to control and enslave the whole population. At the Mexican/American border on the affected areas. city authorities live and work on the American side. In the big cities of the Northeast there is a stampede of rich people moving to the USA in what is called the "golden migration". This is the class of northern entrepreneurs that helped defeat the leftist candidate in 2006 presidential elections claiming his "little strange ideas were a danger to Mexico" with help from Spanish and American PR advisors. Under the new conservative government the economy imploded, hordes of young people have become part of organized crime, and the people that started the problem are running away from it leaving the underclasses to deal with it any way they can, as long as it doesn't mean electing a leftist government.
What's to stop an OPEC-like organization from being created to ensure the price of drugs stay high?
OPEC is [relatively] successful due to the small number of suppliers in the marker and the scarcity of the product.
The inherit cost of producing most drugs is relatively low and the majority of the cost is a reflection of the risk factor in bringing it to market combined with the artificial scarcity. If you legalize drugs -- perhaps going so far as creating stores along the lines of "state liquor stores" -- the almost immediate bump in supply will drive the prices down.
There are problems that will have to be worked out. Such as:
There will be problems in legalizing drugs -- but they should be less insurmountable than the amount of drug cartel violence going on now.
Smoking is legal and can kill you.
Drinking is legal and can kill you.
Myriad other things are legal and can kill you.
So why not legalize all drugs, tax the sh*t out of 'em like cigarettes. The self-destructive will be able to do so, the curious ones will be able to try and the recreational users will be able to do so too. I'd be curious to see what would happen.
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I can just tell you are very wrong. Yes, the government is quite corrupt (although I doubt it is as corrupt as you think), but here we are not talking (at least, we are no _longer_ talking) about govt. people being bribed not to mess with them. The cartels have become militarily stronger than the State in many regions, and although the government does not want to admit it, the talks about a "failed state" and about an effective civil war are correct... In some areas of the country.
Please note the "some areas" part. Of course, our country is going through a critical point, and the current short-sighted government is mostly to blame for it, for devising the worst possible strategy when it needed to legitimize after what many of us still think that was an electoral fraud. Most of the country is still quite safe. I have never seen (and hope never to see) any cartel-related violence, and I travel quite frequently throughout the country. Even including the North, although I am avoiding it now.
The choice here isn't between the status quo and legalized drugs taxed to the point they cost the same is illegal drugs. The choice is between the status quo and legalized drugs that are taxed heavily, but still a lot cheaper than smuggled drugs. You could raise a TON of revenue on, say, weed, and still have it be a lot cheaper than it is now (as has been shown in states where weed is quasi-legal - prices have dropped enormously). That would pull an enormous amount of money out of the hands of cartels, and put it in government coffers, where it could be used for both better drug treatment AND more border enforcement. Sure, you'd likely have some black market - cigarettes and alcohol both are both traded this way to some extent. But when was the last time a black market cigarette dealer disemboweled someone over a bad trade?
If the narcotics black market evolved into something like the cigarette black market, that would actually be a giant step forward.