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SMK Toughens Up Those Tiny Micro-USB Connections

An anonymous reader writes "If a gadget ships with a micro-USB port, I see it as a plus because it isn't proprietary — meaning I can easily and cheaply buy replacement cables. But the micro-USB ports aren't the strongest connectors in the world, so if the gadget is expensive (a smartphone) and you accidentally bust the port, you're in trouble. And that's easily done. Japanese manufacturer SMK may have fixed the problem, though, with a new double-strong connector design. They started producing them on Friday, and at an output of 500,000 a month, hopefully they'll be shipping with most new gadgets before long."

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  1. Sure they will by silas_moeckel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless it's going to reduce there under contract replacement costs smartphones will not have these. US phone companies want your phone to break every couple of years so you buy a new one with a new contract so they can have horrid service.

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  2. Already exists* by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's called a "through-hole mounted connector." Phone manufacturers just like to save a few pennies by using a surface-mounted connector, which is weak as shit.

    *Yes this is even stronger, good for the improvement. But through-hole is strong enough, the problem of weak connectors was caused by phone manufacturers being cheap bastards.

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    1. Re:Already exists* by bstreiff · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not always just to save pennies; a through-hole connector has to go through all of the layers of the board. By using a surface-mount connector you only lose the space on the top layer and can route things in the layers beneath (modulo signal-crosstalk issues).

    2. Re:Already exists* by EdZ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Through-hole uses a ton of extra space, bot for the component itself and on the PCB, something you don't want in a small device. Plus, SMT is a LOT more resistant to repeated sudden G-loads (e.g. dropping your phone). If you shove your USB cable in like an ape or dangle your phone by it then yes, a through-hole component would probably hold up longer.

  3. easy solution by cornface · · Score: 2

    Stop depending on a dab of solder to support a connector and mount it to the case where it belongs.

    This used to be the standard way of doing things.

  4. Wasn't that one of the the points of Micro-USB? by b0bby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought that one of the reasons to move to micro-usb was that the parts most likely to be damaged are now on the easier to replace cable side, as opposed to mini-usb where the springs were on the device side. So I would think that the likelihood of device side damage was already less than with mini-usb.

    1. Re:Wasn't that one of the the points of Micro-USB? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The issue is that of the connector itself breaking away from the circuit board as they are soldered directly onto the surface of the board. It is very easily done. Solder doesn't have fantastic mechanical strength and solder pads on PCBs aren't that strong either.

  5. Re:When will someone address laptop DC jack weakne by rzei · · Score: 2

    Apple has a marvelous idea, but seem to be the only ones using it.

    I agree. However I remember that Apple also patented the discussed DC jack, and doesn't probably want to license it for less than 100% of your laptop's price.

  6. Sad by hbean · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone else think its gotten a bit sad that a company building something to last/stand up to use has become a news story?

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    1. Re:Sad by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      Do you go out of your way to pay more for more durable products?

      People seem to forget that we voted for this.

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    2. Re:Sad by sznupi · · Score: 2

      USB plugs tend to have an embossed logo on the "up" side (unless a manufacturer cares more about "aesthetics" than usability... ); one which can be easily felt, no need to see the plastic inside the connector. Too bad it seems to be less of a rule with USB flash drives - out of my selection, only around half have some embossed, Braille-like stuff (on the cable plugs it's usually the USB logo - on the flash drives it seems to be fairly random) on the "up" side. At least those which don't have it are only symmetric (it could be worse, with the mark on the "down" side)
      I've never heard about the Nintendo twist - and I kinda doubt it; the USB comes from mid-90s, when the NES cartridge slot was still a fresh memory, and would probably make everybody wary about anything from Nintendo in the topic of connectors ;p

      Generally, "they" do think about it, micro-USB was designed with around an order of magnitude more cycles in mind than standard USB, and also more than mini-USB ...on the side of the socket (moving wear- & damage-prone elements to the cable side; preferable, vs. bricking the device socket).

      More generally, we demand and love ever more inexpensive toys.

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    3. Re:Sad by petermgreen · · Score: 2

      It is difficult to tell how durable an item is. By the time you know how durable something is in the real world it is likely to be discontinued or silently changed. Some people base their decisions on brand trust. Unfortunately if there are financial problems or a need to look good to the stock market it's very tempting for a manufacturer to sell out their brand for a quick buck.

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  7. Re:Interesting. by DavidRawling · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The micro connector was designed for 10,000 cycles, IIRC. So you can plug and unplug your phone 6 times a day for 4.5 years. Note that the mini-USB was only designed for 1/10th of that, so the micro connector is the better choice. Go check the Wikipedia article if you don't believe me (not that it's any more authoritative than I am).

  8. Mirror by Taibhsear · · Score: 2

    Original link seems slashdotted for me. Here's an alternate:
    http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/smk-just-made-micro-usb-ports-a-lot-stronger-20110919/

  9. Not enough bias? by argStyopa · · Score: 2

    I know it seems like an odd complaint these days, but my issue with USB connectors - pretty much all of them - is that I don't understand why they don't have a more obvious bias.

    It's not clear which side of the plug is up.

    Oh sure, if you are looking at it in bright light, you can USUALLY tell clearly.
    But if you have bad vision, or are trying to put the cable in a blind spot (we're never plugging in cables that are hard to see, under desks, in the dark, or all three, are we?) it's pretty much a 50% chance if you have the plug right side up.

    With the micro usb it's even worse, given their delicacy putting them into a phone, and the ease that one might misinterpret the "not fitting this way" with "not fitting because I'm not pushing hard enough".

    Why didn't they make the USB plug format a triangle or some other shape that has a clear "top" and "bottom".?

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    1. Re:Not enough bias? by Mike+Mentalist · · Score: 2

      I have always wondered this as well and it seems that even the cable-makers have the same problem - I swear that not every device or cable has the USB symbol on the right side of the connection either!

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    2. Re:Not enough bias? by wootcat · · Score: 2

      ...or design it so it doesn't matter which way you plug it in.

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    3. Re:Not enough bias? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Fifty percent chance? Everybody knows that when you plug in a USB device you push it in, flip it over, push it again, then flip it over the way you had it to get it in! USB connectors are three-way.

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  10. Sometimes "stronger" isn't stronger by MadCow42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sometimes making something harder or stronger doesn't actually solve the problem. Firstly, you can simply shift the breakage point to something more expensive (the circuit board itself). Often, making something more flexible and forgiving goes a lot further. A "soft" connector that flexes instead of breaks would be much more useful.

    I see this with surface coatings all the time. If we have a problem with scratching, making the surface harder actually is counter-productive. Making it softer and more malleable is more likely to solve the problem (the surface deforms around the particle that's scratching it, often resulting in no damage. Even when it still scratches, the resulting defect is much less noticable).

    "Bend with the wind"... it's why Bamboo is such a useful material.

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    1. Re:Sometimes "stronger" isn't stronger by janimal · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you look at TFA, it seems that the connector actually introduces flex where there wasn't any before.

  11. Re:wireless by _merlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't remember the last time I charged my phone over the Bluetooth port. Oh wait, it doesn't charge over Bluetooth.

  12. Cost of poor quality by tepples · · Score: 2

    If they only cost a fraction of a cent more than the old connectors, there's no chance that they would get used

    They might cost less once you figure in the cost of in-warranty repairs.

  13. Double-strong connector? by sootman · · Score: 2

    That's doubleplusgood news!

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  14. Wireless devices should be wireless, and sealed. by Animats · · Score: 2

    Wireless devices ought to be totally wireless. They already have Bluetooth, so they don't need a headphone jack. Syncing can be done over the Bluetooth, WiFi, or cellular radios, which are already present. Charging should be inductive. (The inductive-charging people need to agree on a standard, or one of the three competing schemes needs to win.)

    Then the unit can be sealed up and made watertight and dust-tight. There's already a Casio G-Shock phone that meets military ruggedness standards, so this is quite possible.

  15. Re:When will someone address laptop DC jack weakne by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't believe that Apple doesn't have a valid patent on it. Waring has had magnetic breakaway cables for years and has been using them for powering deep friers.

    A lot of patents on this sort of tech are simply a reiteration of what should be considered prior art with an appended "in a mobile computing device."

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  16. Re:Interesting. by roblarky · · Score: 2

    I say we adopt the Nintendo cartridge connector as standard, that way if it stops working all you have to do is blow into it and you're good to go..