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Samsung May Try To Block Next iPhone In Europe Too
phonewebcam writes with a report in The Register about the ongoing spat between Samsung and Apple. From the article: "Samsung could try to get the iPhone 5 delayed or banned in Europe, a source has told South Korea's Maeil Business Newspaper today. The Korean giant is considering a lawsuit against the next version of the Apple smartphone due in October, in the expectation that iPhone 5 will make use of some basic telecoms technology that Samsung has patented. ... It comes a day after The Korea Times quoted an anonymous Samsung exec saying that the company would attempt to do the same thing in Korea."
"Turnabout is fair play."
Or... payback's a bitch.
It was as if millions of European hipsters suddenly cried out in pain, and were suddenly silenced.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
it would be great idea, but Apple and Microsoft already have "being an asshole" patent in their pool.
839*929
If they decide to block Samsung's products with frivolous lawsuits, then yeah... I expect that's what'll happen.
But so far, it's only Apple that's tried that.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
This is blatant abuse of patent law and we need reform NOW. Information should be free and software patents are stupid and this is ridicul....
Wait, someone is doing this to Apple?
FUCK YEAH, it's about fuckin' time! This is awesome and I fully support this, go Samsung, FUCK YOU APPLE!! I HOPE YOU GET CANCER STEVE JOBS!!!!!
"Never go against a Korean...when DEATH is on the line!!!"
Choose one:
The whole situation has happened before, though. 150 years ago we had a similar war over the patents for sewing machines. It eventually led to the Sewing Machine Combination, which was a patent pool that created a 20-year cartel of four manufacturers. They were the only ones allowed to produce cutting-edge sewing machines.
Notably, the next major innovation in sewing machines (the rotary hook) sat unexploited until the combination expired in 1876 (sources here and here.
FATMOUSE + YOU = FATMOUSE
Basically, with the current climate in the patent world, no one can really produce anything as complex as a smartphone, that does not infringe on someone else's patents or design.
No, I never got past the "You must be at least this arrogant to enter" sign at the Apple Store entrance.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
You are wrong, my friend, wrong. Samsung runs the country.
There is a spark in every single flame bait point.
In this case I think
“You don't mess with the 800 pound gorilla!”
is more apropos. Samsung is the GE of S. Korea
Here is a list of industries under Samsung
Electronics
Shipbuilder
Financial
Chemical
Retail
Entertainment
Flash memory
Aviation
Optical storage
Mobile phones
Smartphones
Hard disk drives
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
I can't speak for "people"; but my hope from such mutually destructive activity is that (at the cost of considerable short-term mayhem) it will make the present arrangement untenably expensive even for the incumbent patentholders. Essentially, the present patent system is hopelessly over-determined(in the sense that pretty much any action is covered by numerous broad, sometimes overlapping, patents held by multiple entities, and the cost of securing licenses for them all exceeds the value of almost any action); but survives because it is rather loosely and selectively enforced. Strengthening it will serve to bring its faults into sharper focus.
Historically, you had the patent trolls sucking blood on the sidelines, and the little guys getting squished; but a more or less cold-war environment between the major players. Some sabre rattling and money moving about; but nothing that really upset the status quo. However, if it gets to the point where entire flagship product launches can be, and sometimes are, scotched by patent complaints to any one of an alphabet soup of assorted regulatory bodies, I suspect that the pressure to change the situation will be considerably greater.
As long as the major players can use patents to their advantage, at the (comparatively minor) cost of paying off a troll now and again, the situation will not change. If the pain moves sufficiently far up the food chain that nobody can ship anything, I'm guessing that the congresscritters of the world will be prodded into action...
Wow... I had no idea Samsung was so big.
Samsung / Apple
Apple has changed to many other suppliers for its components (the A5 chip comes to mind) so this argument is not valid anymore. Samsung stated that at first, they bent over and let Apple have their way in order to keep a 'healthy' business relation. But after the Galaxy line got blocked in the EU, generating a huge loss, Apple choosing other manufacturers over Samsung, and still acting like a small female dog over patents, Samsung has become quite angry and now Pandora's box is open it seems. I sincerely hope they destroy Apple or at least let them bleed with their childish tactics: crying that they are the underdog while suing all competition out of the market.
Nope. The injunction was under the insane and ridiculously vague EU Community Design system. Specifically, apple drew something vaguely tablet-like on the back of a napkin before the ipad even existed, filed it - which results in automatic approval - then used it to sue Samsung years later, being sure to file in Germany since there's no requirement to inform the other party there.
I'm afraid you misunderstand. Apple is stealing Samsung technology. I suppose you want real INNOVATORS like Samsung to just let thieves like Apple take their IP and blatantly use it in their own products. Don't you know, patents are supposed protect innovators!
(Tired after hearing that Android "stole" from Apple ad nauseum)
Stealing design of a rectangular device with rounded corners is shameless indeed.
I wonder, why does one need a Fab to steal that...
Funny to see what an absurd profit Apple makes
You're right. Apple shouldn't be allowed to make any profit.
Or do you think that they should be able to, but you think that the actual amount of profit they should be able to earn should be decided by someone else, like you?
The Stockholm syndrome comes to mind...
What should we call the syndrome that makes whiny haters trot out boring, over-used, poorly-applied mems like that, phrased in a way to make it sound like they're really clever and just thought it up? Really? You were betting your see-how-cool-I-am comment on the hopes that people hadn't already seen that misplaced bit of snarkiness a thousand times already? Let me guess, you also use "M$" when referring to Microsoft, because that is just so damn inventive on your part, right?
Anyway, back to profit. Please mention the correct profit number that Apple should make so that you won't hate them. A precise number would be ideal, thanks.
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