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Comcast Launches Program For Low-Income Families

wasimkadak writes "Comcast rolled out its Internet Essentials program nationwide today, offering low-income families in its service territory $10/month Internet connections and access to $150 computers. Any family with at least one child who qualifies for the free lunch program at public schools can subscribe to a low-speed (1.5Mbps) Comcast Internet connection for $9.95 a month. Comcast guarantees that it won't raise the price and offers the plan without equipment rental or activation fees. Subscribers also cannot have 'an overdue Comcast bill or unreturned equipment,' and they can't have had Comcast Internet in the last 90 days."

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  1. Think of the children. by damnbunni · · Score: 2

    Because unemployed or low-income adults without kids wouldn't have any use for the internet to look for a job or something, right?

    1. Re:Think of the children. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You had to know some would complain about not getting the same handout. The reason people give these benefits to kids is because many of the low-income adults are too old to learn new tricks, you hate to see the children suffer, and frankly there is some hope the kids may turn out better than their parents at being able to hold a job.

      I do not think that all people who are low income are lazy do nothings, but I can't separate those who have just down on their luck, and those who like to take the government dole, smoke drugs/drink alcohol, etc. So unless you propose having everyone take drugs tests, and submit to Comcast for interviews before getting this deal, then I think "Any family with at least one child who qualifies for the free lunch program at public schools" is a pretty fair way to go about it.

    2. Re:Think of the children. by Nadaka · · Score: 2

      Public libraries often have a 30 minute time limit on computer use and in poor and rural areas share a 56k modem between all computers.

  2. They did this because they care sooooo much.. by chihowa · · Score: 5, Informative

    The last paragraph of the linked article mentions that they had no choice but to do this:

    Though Comcast no doubt loves children and cares deeply about the digital divide, its Internet Essentials program was also a part of the conditions under which it was allowed to buy NBC earlier this year. The company pledged to reach 2.5 million low income households with high speed Internet for less than $10 a month, and to sell some sort of computer for $150 or less.

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    1. Re:They did this because they care sooooo much.. by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The same thing happened when AT&T merged with BellSouth. The FCC made them provide DSL for $20/month.

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    2. Re:They did this because they care sooooo much.. by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 2

      That's just enough bandwidth to stream Netflix in SD.

      Then it's better than what I get from Comcast for $100/month.

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    3. Re:They did this because they care sooooo much.. by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      The upshot is that millions of lower income families are going to get internet -- that's a Good Thing(TM).

      It was bad enough when they let the students in, and frankly by your UID you're old enough to know better.

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  3. How elegant... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A revenue maximizing price-discrimination tactic and a PR coup that should keep those meddlesome regulators from breathing down their duopolist-at-best necks... Plus, the odds are good that at least some of your customers will feel more shafted by the fact that nasty, undeserving, poor people are getting low prices than by the fact that those prices only look low because all the other prices are so high.

    Comcastic work, boys.

    1. Re:How elegant... by Amouth · · Score: 2

      what i love is not having Comcast net service for 90 days.. so if they have net access due to need but can barely afford it - they can't drop down to the lower rate which suits their cash flow.. unless they go without for 3 months showing that it isn't needed and rather a luxury to them.. basically screwing over people who need it.

      and as people say no one "needs" a net connection - but hey no one needs anything really

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    2. Re:How elegant... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      My suspicion is that, if Comcast thought the 90-day rule wouldn't be relevant, they wouldn't have imposed it...

      Given that this is an (approximately) value-rational, profit-seeking entity attempting to fulfill an obligation attached to a merger deal at the lowest cost, it seems only reasonable to suspect that every term and condition of the offer is either obligatory(as in the case of the price) or designed to reduce the number of takers(90-day requirement, no outstanding comcast bills requirement, households qualifying for free school lunches requirement). It could certainly be the case that, for demographic reasons, the 90-day requirement doesn't cut as deeply as it might among a different demographic; but if it didn't exclude some potential takers, there would simply be no point in imposing it...

  4. Re:Support Municipal Cable by TheSpoom · · Score: 2

    Ha! Government run services. In the United States. Good luck.

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  5. Another (admittedly biased) view by DanTheManMS · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As mentioned before, the launch isn't exactly new, and it was a provision of the NBC/Comcast merger. Nevertheless, it has gotten more attention than usual in the past day or two. Here's an alternative viewpoint, heavily biased against Comcast but still worth reading (at least in my opinion): http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-Highlights-10-Broadband-in-DC-116216

  6. Unsustainable business plan by avatar4d · · Score: 2

    Comcast guarantees that it won't raise the price

    This is an unreasonable expectation given that the US monetary system has inflation. Eventually they would really have to raise prices or end up losing too much money.

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    1. Re:Unsustainable business plan by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      The merger consent deal only required them to do this for three years(not 3 years per subscribing household, 3 years, clock starts ticking toward the point where they needn't offer it anymore). It also excludes anyone who has had comcast service in the last 90 days, or owes comcast any money or hardware from past service, or doesn't meet the income criteria...

      Even if they are losing money on these accounts(which is by no means a given), the time and population restrictions on the offer should put a pretty tight lid on overall costs.

  7. Re:Support Municipal Cable by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you think it's expensive now, wait till it's free...

  8. Public libraries by SirGarlon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's true today, but the entire public library system is under assault and I would not be surprised to see it dismantled within a decade. Slashdotters routinely make remarks like "who needs libraries when we have Google Books!" Libraries are trying hard to remain relevant. Free, public internet access is one of their real services to the community ... but now on Slashdot, and at town budget meetings, people can stand up and shout "who needs libraries when Comcast offers free^H^H^H^H cheap(er) internet access to (some) poor people (in select markets)!"

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    1. Re:Public libraries by Smidge204 · · Score: 2

      Several years ago a local town library build a brand new computer center as an expansion to their public library system - two computer rooms and a large meeting room. It's its own building down the street from the original library. Even the official title of the project was the "Bookless Library."

      I'm fairly sure that's not a wholly unique story.

      Now if you want to complain about libraries struggling to stay relevant, let's talk about the "teen centers" with the big screen TVs and game consoles....
      =Smidge=

    2. Re:Public libraries by Abstrackt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We only need a few redundant collections to preserve hard copies in case of an electromagnetic disaster.

      We could call these redundant collections libraries!

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  9. Corporatocracy by MrL0G1C · · Score: 2

    and they can't have had Comcast Internet in the last 90 days.

    So they don't really give a crap about children or poverty, they're just trying to grab a few of their competitors customers.

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  10. Handouts by SirGarlon · · Score: 2

    It's not charity to entice people to buy Comcast's services.

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  11. Just Doesn't Go Far Enough by sarbonn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I'll never qualify for this, I still find myself having to criticize Comcast for doing everything possible to avoid helping as many people as they can. The very last line of the stipulation is what ruins it for me, when they state: "and they can't have had Comcast Internet in the last 90 days." If people qualify for it because they NEED it, stop doing everything possible to keep people from being able to qualify for it. Having had Comcast in the last 90 days doesn't somehow make someone who is on the list of those in poverty from being any less poor. Just give them the damn benefit like everyone else who falls into the "need" demographic. Yeah, I know no one really "needs" it, but if they're going through and pretending to be helpful, at least be helpful.

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  12. Re:Support Municipal Cable by ByOhTek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And other people pay for what you use.
    And theres a large scale for economies of scale.

    And, oh, with a commercial, you pay for what other people use also!

    Example: Lets say I use 80GB/month down and 60GB/month up.
    My neighbors with the same plan use only 60GB/month down and 5GB/month up.

    We pay the same, but I use more, so in fact, since all the paid money goes for the ISPs backbone connection, they are in part, paying for the infrastructure for some of my connection.

    But, since it is a company doing it, I guess that's ok?

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  13. Counter example. by khasim · · Score: 2

    Slashdotters routinely make remarks like "who needs libraries when we have Google Books!" Libraries are trying hard to remain relevant. Free, public internet access is one of their real services to the community ... but now on Slashdot, and at town budget meetings, people can stand up and shout "who needs libraries when Comcast offers free^H^H^H^H cheap(er) internet access to (some) poor people (in select markets)!"

    I've been on /. for a while and I have never posted that we don't need libraries.

    In my opinion, we need MORE libraries. And I'll be in the library today.

    It doesn't matter how cheap Comcast offers their service. A free, public library is always needed.

  14. Re:Who Knew? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Haven't you heard? We all live in a vacuum now.

    Of course I didn't, I'm in a vacuum!

  15. Wow lots of anger.. but this is really good news. by JMZero · · Score: 2

    So this is a new thing, it's optional, and it will probably bring the Internet to a reasonable number of disadvantaged children who currently don't have it.

    That seems like a good thing.

    Now I understand they are doing this as part of a previous deal, and that they could have done more, and that they still have horrible service or whatever. But this is still quite good news. I think this will really help some people - possibly really change some lives for the better - and it will help more people if the news gets around well.

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  16. Re:First low-income post! by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 2

    The program was actually launched a while ago, for some reason websites felt the need to revisit it.

    Perhaps because the program was launched only in certain areas? Perhaps because this is the "Nationwide" launch for those outside the pilot areas?

  17. Re:Support Municipal Cable by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

    Government-started is not the same as Government-provided. The Government has played no role in my internet access other than regulations and taxes.

  18. There goes community wifi by drwho · · Score: 2

    We almost had something, with the various community wifi programs, in varying amounts of formality and size, happening around the country. People who couldn't afford the $40+ per month for broadband and didn't need all that speed were sharing access points, and it was mostly good (except which RIAA/MPAA came knocking). Now, in comcast land, the impetus will be crushed for those parents with no money, to get out and do something technical for their community. Oh well, I should look on the bright side, that means that they can share the connection they have without needing to press for cash (much). Too bad you have to have children to use it. It seems to me that such discount plans should be available regardless of whether one has a child. Single people need to hunt for jobs, apply for foodstamps, improve their computer skills, and find ways to fill the empty hopeless hours, just as much as parents do.