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Designer Creates "Euthanasia Roller Coaster"

disco_tracy writes "Lithuanian amusement park worker and current PhD candidate in London's Royal College of Art's Design Interactions department, Julijonas Urbonas, has made a design for a hypothetical coaster that could be the future of humane euthanasia. Urbonas says that it is engineered to give a person a way to die with 'with elegance and euphoria.' From the article: 'The three-minute ride involves a long, slow, climb -- nearly a third of a mile long -- that lifts one up to a height of more than 1,600 feet, followed by a massive fall and seven strategically sized and placed loops. The final descent and series of loops take all of one minute. But the gravitational force -- 10 Gs -- from the spinning loops at 223 miles per hour in that single minute is lethal.'"

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  1. I've seen people die... by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... and there isn't a thing elegant about it.

    1. Re:I've seen people die... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny

      My god man! Were you raised by wolves?

      You don't think it "Euphoric" to die by being centrifugally-forced into shitting out your internal organs?

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    2. Re:I've seen people die... by morari · · Score: 2

      Sure there is. I've been bedside and holding the hand of three different people as they expired. Death is about the only elegant part of aging. Keeping people as living vegetables in hospitals and nursing homes isn't elegant. It's greedy and selfish.

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    3. Re:I've seen people die... by flaming+error · · Score: 2

      Somebody read TFA.

      I just wanted to nitpick and point out that every death is "a lack-of-oxygen-to-brain death," by medical definition. The interesting question is the reason oxygen stopped going to the brain, the "cause of death."

      In this case, I believe the medical diagnosis would be "terminal velocity."

    4. Re:I've seen people die... by RubberChainsaw · · Score: 2

      This system isn't crushing a person to death. It is using force-induced hypoxia to deprive the brain of oxygen.

      The trouble is that force-induced hypoxia is not an elegant method of death. Fighter-pilots and people who have ridden a cetrifuge know the distress caused by excessive G-force on the body.

      However, a painless and humane method of hypoxia can be achieved by depriving the subject of oxygen in the air, and replacing it with an inert, non-toxic gas that does not irritate the body. My preferred method of death would be death by altitude chamber induced hypoxia.

      An episode of BBC's Horizon followed a former minister on a search for the most humane method of execution. The final outcome was that the most humane method of execution was via similar method of hypoxia, which also happens to be fairly inexpensive, as well.

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    5. Re:I've seen people die... by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2

      Sure there is. I've been bedside and holding the hand of three different people as they expired. Death is about the only elegant part of aging.

      I've been there too. Watching the failing struggle to stay awake and aware because, in between stretches of tiredness and confusion, they have moments of absolute clarity where they realize they'll never open their eyes again once they close them.

      Hours later, watching them still breathing slowly but far too slowly to maintain consciousness or even sleep. The body struggles desperately on even after the mind has left, a loved one reduced to little more than a broken automaton. Holding a hand that's only warm because of the warmth from your own hand. It's like watching someone slowly drown that you can never save. Not what I call elegant.

      Keeping people as living vegetables in hospitals and nursing homes isn't elegant. It's greedy and selfish.

      Oh, you mean "relatively" elegant. Sure, dying in a hospital bed would be way better than bleeding out after a robbery, but that doesn't make it in any way good.

    6. Re:I've seen people die... by morari · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, you can't avoid death. If you want to make it more "elegant", then I would suggest that euthanasia as the obvious choice. There are plenty of methods available that would allow for a quicker death, long before your loved one is laid up in the hospital and barely even aware of their surroundings. :(

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    7. Re:I've seen people die... by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2

      So what is your alternative then ?

      I wasn't aware that criticizing someone for calling death, specifically a killer roller coaster death, "elegant" required me to also fix the problem of human mortality. Sorry, I'll get right on that.

    8. Re:I've seen people die... by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2

      When training us about "confined space entries" at one chemical company I worked at (before switching to writing business software... as opposed to chemical process modelling), they told us about a contractor who entered a confined space at one of our plants without a confined space entry permit where nitrogen lines were vented (over-pressure vents or something like that). Before he entered, the lines vented a lot of nitrogen, displacing all the oxygen. From what I heard, the investigators figured the guy walked in the room and dropped unconscious almost immediately, and died very, very soon thereafter. Very quick and painless. i.e.He didn't know what hit him.

      The rule at the place (following OSHA guidelines) was that to enter a confined space required authorization from someone trained and authorized to sign the permits. The permits were always time based never lasting more than a half shift (e.g. if you got a permit in the morning, you needed another one to either continue working more than four hours, or to go back in after you took any sort of break). And you always had to have a spotter/safety person, and be roped off, and have breathing and/or other required safety gear. This was always explained to all workers and contractors. As part of the authorization, O2 levels, explosive gas levels, poison gas levels are measured in the confined space either by monitors permanently mounted in the room/confined space, or by probes pushed into the space. Gas lines would be capped/locked out, dangerous equipment locked out etc. Notices posted and operations personal warned not to start up equipment in the space (even though the equipment is locked out anyway... redundancy and communication). This guy was authorized to work in that room in the morning. The permit expired, and the vent lines opened after they left at lunch during some operations activities. Without authorization the guy came back after lunch and thought it would be OK to just go in for a minute to retrieve something he forgot inside without asking for a permit (which hey, would take too much time for just ducking in and out of the room). But like I said, the room had no oxygen in it. He walked in without proper authorization and dropped pretty much on the spot. Just because you might take 4 minutes to die if you stop breathing, doesn't mean you won't pass out really fast, or die fast if you displace the oxygen in your lungs.

      But the guy probably didn't feel any distress... or very little since they found him just inside the doorway. That is, he didn't last long inside the room. Poor guy. And FWIW, I consider that company to be very good on safety and it had a very low lost time injury count compared to many others. This was a clear incident of not following standard safety practices.

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    9. Re:I've seen people die... by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, you can't avoid death.

      True. But name one person who people say "died elegantly". Peacefully. Violently. Quietly. Heroically. Instantly. Alone. But never gracefully, or artistically, or "in a refined manner".

      Death is an inherently ugly thing. He can tart it up all he wants, it's still someone's life ending and he's describing it like he's found a one-line fix for a particularly annoying software bug. Of course, it's also a goddamn roller coaster, so expecting him to appreciate the plight of the terminally ill is perhaps asking too much.

    10. Re:I've seen people die... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

      Death is an inherently ugly thing.

      Subjective. As far as I know, there is nothing "inherently ugly" about anything.

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    11. Re:I've seen people die... by slackbheep · · Score: 2

      While I hesitate to comment as I feel I am treading on your grief to do so it really must be said that we will all eventually have to die. Some choose to fight for every last moment that they may spend with their loved ones, others may choose to meet the end sooner than later on their own terms for other reasons, whether fear of a long drawn out ordeal, or what have you. In relation to this I interpreted his comments about elegance to be relative to other potential ends we may face, and a comment on our right to self determination.

  2. It'll never fly by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too dangerous.

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    1. Re:It'll never fly by CaptainPatent · · Score: 4, Funny

      Besides, hundreds of rollercoasters just like this have been designed before...

      It was called Roller Coaster Tycoon.

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    2. Re:It'll never fly by Talderas · · Score: 2

      I used to play that. I would get a successful park then after that I would see how quickly I could kill my attendance with death coasters. The best part was that deleting a single track space and rebuilding it would make visitors thing it was a whole new roller coaster that was safe! Silly stupid AI humans. I also made sure all my janitors didn't bother with vomit. I still had the sweep the paths, clean up the trash, and mow the grass but I made vomit a feature!

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  3. Cheaper design: The Drop of Doom by md65536 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have a design for a "ride" that involves a long, slow climb up a large staircase, followed by a massive fall and one strategically placed sidewalk. I think it's the future of euthanasia!

  4. So... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you're in a wheelchair, do they let you jump to the front of the line?

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  5. Something the academic forgot by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    Who is going to clean up all the excrement when death-induced sphincter relaxation occurs in conjunction with high G's? Eww, I don't want to ride on that - regular coasters are bad enough.

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    1. Re:Something the academic forgot by decipher_saint · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's funny not a single person who rode it had any complaints after the experience.

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  6. Wrong Age / Wrong Target Market by Dragon+Bait · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Obviously this is just a [stupid] publicity stunt, but most of the people that I know that would (would have) opted for euthanasia were elderly. They wouldn't be the type to board a roller coaster.

    They do need an option that is better than putting a gun to the head.

  7. Operator Error? by decipher_saint · · Score: 4, Funny

    So if a Carnie screws up, do people survive?

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  8. Soylent green! by Antisyzygy · · Score: 2

    Reminds me of Soylent Green. A pleasant experience followed by death, then your body is liquified and turned into green crackers.

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  9. Re:10 Gs isn't lethal by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    The real problem would be the moderately sub-lethal cases:

    According to TFA, the plan is that inertia prevents blood circulation to the brain, starving it of oxygen and inducing death. Unfortunately, there are a lot of increasingly impaired outcomes short of death that depriving the brain of oxygen can give you. Suicide certainly isn't for everyone; but I don't know of anyone who is looking for some serious permanent brain damage...

  10. Joke by gurps_npc · · Score: 2
    This is obviously a bit of a joke, and not even that funny. I like the original version better:

    I want to die in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of his car.

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  11. Re:How nice by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    10g is not enough to crush you. It's enough to cause the blood to pool in your extremities, depriving your brain of oxygen, but wouldn't otherwise harm your body with any long-term effects.

  12. No, Mr. Bond... by dorianh49 · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, Mr. Bond... I expect you to ride.

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  13. Re:How nice by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

    Yes, and they do it in an incredibly uncomfortable way. I'd be willing to bet that the person who suggested this has never pulled more than about 2Gs. When the acceleration is enough that it's hard to pump blood up into your head, you experience nausea and lots of small pains. This generally starts mildly at around 4Gs and becomes progressively worse as the force increases.

    Basically, this idea sounds like someone saying 'well, the blood draining out of your brain is quite a relaxing way to die, we should chop people's balls off for euthanasia so that their blood will drain out quickly and they'll have a quick and peaceful death.'

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  14. Re:Inert gases are the way to go by DamienNightbane · · Score: 5, Funny

    Helium would be the best choice. All the effectiveness of nitrogen, but with the added benefit of the person's last moments being hilarious to any onlookers.

  15. The Architects Sketch! The Architects Sketch! by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The guests arrive in the entrance hall here, are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort and past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes, towards the rotating knives. The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The blood pours down these chutes and the mangled flesh slurps into these large containers. None of your blood caked on the walls and flesh flying out of the windows inconveniencing passers-by with this one.

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  16. Re:Nitrogen Asphyxiation by vonhammer · · Score: 2

    This is very similar to to what some rebreather divers have done by accident. Turn off the oxygen supply (or forget to turn it on) while keeping the CO2 scrubber working. The N2 levels build, the O2 levels drop, no CO2 to cause respiratory distress and a gentle fade off into death.

  17. Re:How nice by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

    When the acceleration is enough that it's hard to pump blood up into your head, you experience nausea and lots of small pains.

    For the more adventurous among you, you can test mild varieties of this yourself by swinging your arm, extended, making circles with your hand.

    Do this at a normal pace, compare that hand to the other, it'll be a fair bit more red.
    Do this faster, and you'll start to feel some of that 'small pains' - it's not entirely unlike when your hand's 'asleep', but more painful.
    Go faster still and you'll have successfully flung blood cells up toward your skin, which is now mottled with little red pinpricks. Don't worry, it should disappear in a day or two. ( But if it doesn't, don't blame me.. blame yourself for actually trying this, you nutter. )

    Now imagine that scaled up just that tiny bit more and involving not just your fingertips but pretty much your entire body including internal organs.

    Doesn't sound particularly comfortable to me.

    Pretty sure I also read about this story several months back, somewhere.. oh well.

  18. Re:How nice by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This was my thought as well. Some acceleration can be fun, but it is very uncomfortable beyond a certain point, and enough to kill you would be extremely painful. You want death to be either non-violent or extremely quick, if possible. This is neither. And several minutes of anticipation? Fuck no. I'll take a morphine OD (which seems painless from what I know of it), if it comes to that.

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  19. It wouldn't be 100% effective - John Stapp by securitytech · · Score: 2

    "John Stapp was subjected to 15 g for 0.6 second and a peak of 22 g during a 19 March 1954 rocket sled test. He would eventually survive a peak of more than 46 g, with more than 25 g for 1.1 sec.[6]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force#Human_tolerance_of_g-force

    While Mr. Stapp's tests were short, the coaster doesn't appear to sustain the high level of g's necessary either.

    1. Re:It wouldn't be 100% effective - John Stapp by kermidge · · Score: 2

      Missing from this article, and the one on John Stapp (don't know his rank(s) while he was doing this) was mention of a great article in Life magazine I read at the time. After one briefing, on the way to lunch before an early-afternoon run, Stapp asked the doctor if there was anything he should avoid eating. The response was "Not really. Just don't eat anything that'll scratch on the way up."

      The article on Stapp is worthing reading. Interesting fellow.

  20. Re:How nice by dudpixel · · Score: 3

    The red bull air race has a limit of 12g - indicating that pilots can survive even that much.

    I have witnessed pilots exceed 12g and be disqualified because of it - and the same pilot complained that the 12g limit was stupid. The limit is there to stop pilots from pushing it too far, in a bid to curb "lap" times.

    However, how many super-fit and healthy people would be interested in euthanasia? not many I'd guess.

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  21. Re:Elegance and Euphoria? by dudpixel · · Score: 2

    on the other hand, what if you did actually start to enjoy the beginning of the rollercoaster...and because you were experiencing enjoyment - wanted to change your mind?

    That would suck.

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  22. Re:How nice by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    If they had no limits, whoever pulls the most Gs wins. It would be a contest where the loser blacks out and dies, and Red Bull doesn't want to support death sports, so we get a reasonable limit (though higher than I'd consider safe, but that's their call, not mine).

  23. Life Imitating Art by cstacy · · Score: 2

    Didn't the recent episode "The Tip Of The Zoidberg" conclude with a roller coaster designed to help the Professor suicide?

    And what about "Mr. Bonecrusher" in the Chevy Chase movie "Nothing But Trouble"?

  24. Re:How nice by Zironic · · Score: 2

    You can survive 10g momentarily, what kills you is that it's 10g for an -entire minute- which above poster points out is long enough for your brain to die from oxygen deprivation.

  25. Re:How nice by michelcolman · · Score: 2

    Have you ever tried riding a big roller coaster? I guess not.

    Swinging your arm around quickly may indeed be slightly painful. But that is a much higher G-force, well above that which would make you lose consciousness. If your arm is 1 meter long, and you are spinning it around at two revolutions per second (I'm sure you can do more than that), the tips will already be experiencing 15g.

    The only ill effects I've had from high G-forces is tiredness and a slight headache afterwards, never during the event. I don't think that's an issue in this case, except maybe St.-Peter may have to stock up on asprin tablets.