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Netflix Signs Exclusive Deal With Dreamworks

tekgoblin writes "Netflix has signed an exclusive deal with Dreamworks Animation which will allow them to stream content from the studio to Netflix. The deal will allow Netflix to stream content from Dreamworks, which previously supplied content to HBO. The contract was negotiated at approximately $30 million per Dreamworks film title."

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  1. $30 mil per movie title! by firex726 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $30 mil per movie title!
    That just seems insanely expensive to me.

    1. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by mr1911 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Market cap is not working capital or cash flow.

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    2. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by jimbolauski · · Score: 2

      Netflix has 25 million subscribers, little more then a dollar per subscriber per movie isn't all that bad once you consider $96 per subscriber per year and this is probably a multi-year deal so the cost is 0.30-0.40 per person per movie. The real news is that they lost Starz so their digital library will take a serious hit so instead of bolstering their library it is shrinking.

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    3. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by Antisyzygy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Stock prices don't affect revenue and assets (except for the stock held by members of the company) of a company who issues the stocks, its the other way around. Netflix took a hit to its stock because people are not confident they will continue to grow as a company, however there was not an instantaneous change in their revenue. They still had as many subscribers after the stock took a hit as before +/- a few thousand probably.

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    4. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by C_Kode · · Score: 2

      Market cap is not working capital or cash flow.

      This is true, but they are generally tied to each other. For instance if a company has poor cash flow and working capital, their stock value tends to drop which knocks their market cap down. While the opposite occurs when a company has cash flow and capital.

      The original poster does have a point. Many times a company will sell stock help finance large investments like this. $30M per title. You've got to ask, exactly how many titles are they purchasing the rights too? Currently Dreamworks has released 22 films. That's $660M. They have eight more films due to be released by 2014. That is another $240M. Is Netflix about to invest $900M on 30 movies?

    5. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

      Today's ganna be a good day after all!

      No it's not.

    6. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by bws111 · · Score: 2

      Um, if you are either downloading from unauthorized sources, or especially if you are uploading, you are not a customer. And when the guy says he doesn't watch movies, that really takes him even further out of the 'customer' category. So again, what customers, acting in their role as customer, have they sued?

    7. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by bws111 · · Score: 2

      And what interest would Netflix possibly have in doing that? This way, they get an exclusive deal, which gives them a leg up on the competition. With CARP rates they are essential in a commodity, race-to-the-bottom industry.

    8. Re:$30 mil per movie title! by timeOday · · Score: 2

      I bought NTFX stock when it hit bottom

      Ahh, an optimist.

      I think they are leaping headlong into an unworkable business strategy - they are waving the white flag to the content owners. What choice do they have? But 30 million per movie? Nope, if they're paying that much, they'll never be able to rent movies to me at a price I'm willing to pay. They are no longer a force for lowering prices.

  2. Re:Nice slashvertisement by J-1000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Netflix is pioneering the new TV landscape. This nerd, for one, wants to hear news about them.

  3. This is why Netflix is doomed by jandrese · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So Dreamworks has produced a little over 100 titles, so that would be a 3 billion dollar deal to get a tiny sliver of the movies they're about to lose with the Stars deal back. That is not sustainable by any measure. For comparison, with the DVD rental business the Disks would have cost somewhere on the order of $2 million. Back when the Streaming was just a sideshow for the disk rental business this didn't matter, but now that the company is split in two it's clear just how badly Netflix is screwed. The studios don't like it, and they ultimately have control over the business thanks to the fact that internet streaming to one household is considered "broadcasting".

    It doesn't even matter if this is the future of movie rentals. Studios have shown time and time again that they'll prefer to kill off any new and disruptive technologies instead of trying to profit off of them. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming by court rulings into the VHS and DVD era, and they're not going to go quietly into the streaming era either. Not that they'll have to anyway. They learned their lesson the first time and bought all of the congressmen and FCC executives they need to prevent them from ever having to face inevitable change anyway. Can you imagine legislation that would reclassify streaming in a sane manner from this congress or FCC? The thought is ludicrous.

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    1. Re:This is why Netflix is doomed by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      What's the legality associated with renting out movies that you own physical copies for? Netflix might find a better deal buying a copy for each movie they plan to stream online at the same time. It would work the same as their mail order service, except that they could deliver the DVD instantly (or the data contained there-in) and you could return the movie instantly. I'm not sure how well this could work out in real life, but I has to be cheaper than spending 30 million per title. Think of how many physical copies they could have for that price. Anyway, it's probably not legal, but at that price, there must be some workaround you can use, such as having a robot physically move disks between machines for each user who is streaming the movie.

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  4. Re:so how long will it take by bws111 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lost half their customers? Where did you get that nonsense? They lost about 4% of the customers, which they made up for in revenue with higher prices.

  5. 2013!!!! by Crock23A · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the article, no streaming content from this deal until 2013. Maybe I'll reactivate my account sometime around then but in all likelihood, I'll have found a much better alternative by then.

  6. Re:It sounds great by tag · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But my kids will watch them over and over, ad nauseum.

  7. Starz was only 200-300 mil/year... by mj1856 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't get it. Netflix drops Starz over 200-300mil/year but signs Dreamworks at 30 mil per movie? I'm sure Starz delivers more than 10 movies in a year. Do Netflix execs really think their audience will prefer cartoons over serious content?

  8. Re:Nice slashvertisement by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    It pioneered how networks, shows, actors, writers and workers don't get paid a single dime.

    It might work in the short term for a small number of viewers, but unfortunately it's not a viable plan in the long term for all viewers.

  9. Re:Starz was only 200-300 mil/year... by Xphile101361 · · Score: 2

    Starz dropped Netflix. They wanted Netflix to charge an additional fee to get Starz content, so that their label would remain "exclusive." Netflix said no

  10. Loss Leader by tgeek · · Score: 2

    That's all it is. Netflix is betting that they've locked up exclusive rights to some blockbuster (no pun intended) titles for the next few years. Do they think they'll make money on the specific Dreamworks titles they've licensed? Nope. But if it works out that those titles become "must-see" titles, it'll bring subscribers in. And then hopefully they'll have some strategy in place to retain those subscribers. It's no different than a department store advertising an item at a loss in order to get people into the store. Or a network buying a sports package (example: Fox taking the NFC football contract in the early-mid 90's) knowing that while they may not make money on the games, it'll be a positive benefit for the network overall (promoting their network during games, games as a lead-in to other programming, etc.)

  11. Re:so how long will it take by jimbolauski · · Score: 2
    FTFA

    Now under the Netflix contract they will still be able to sell those digital downloads while providing streaming content to Netflix. So the deal with Netflix is relatively “sugar coated” and will allow Dreamworks to keep profiting off their content.

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  12. Re:so how long will it take by babywhiz · · Score: 2

    I am probably one of the minority that wasn't negatively affected by the split. I was annoyed at not having a 'streaming only' option, mostly because the family unit would order a DVD, then it would get lost in the car, under the couch, etc. I welcomed the time in which I didn't have to go looking for the red envelope under the guinea pig cage.... Not a Netflix shill, I'm just sayin'.....one less thing to keep up with physically....in my world.....where things mysteriously disappear....only to reappear a billion miles from where it was expected to. I think I either have an infestation of gnome rogues, or someone has been playing with teleportation devices.

  13. Re:isn't this.... by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2

    Dreamworks exec: You're right! Quick! Have them stuff more hip cultural references into our cartoons that will be dated by next week! Call those pony people! See what they are doing, pervert it beyond all recognition, and stuff that in there, too!

  14. Re:It sounds great by SteveFoerster · · Score: 2

    and I turned out OK.

    [citation needed]

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  15. Re:Starz was only 200-300 mil/year... by Kjella · · Score: 2

    That's what I mean. Why did Netflix say no?

    Because once they open the door everyone else will want their service to have a "premium" too, their service will fragment and Netflix will be only a platform for selling various other subscriptions? I know it happens for special interest TV but I can very well understand Netflix saying that we can negotiate price, but you don't get to say how we collect money from our customers. In fact, that might be the whole principle of the decision.

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  16. What makes that likely? Seems rather UNLIKLEY by SuperKendall · · Score: 3

    According to the article, no streaming content from this deal until 2013. Maybe I'll reactivate my account sometime around then but in all likelihood, I'll have found a much better alternative by then.

    What makes you think that, at all? What ray of hope is there anywhere that something better will come along?

    One possibility was pay per stream, which is essentially what iTunes rentals was. Dead.

    Another model is Hulu. Oh awesome, I get to pay more than Netflix for an order of magnitude less content that includes commercials.

    Or perhaps you prefer a total balkanization of content? Like the NFL streaming you can buy on the PS3 - for $100...

    Like it or not, Netflix has the only streaming model that is really reasonably priced and commercial free with a pretty wide range of content. If Netflix falls you can look forward to paying $100 for the same amount of content, if you are lucky... By not buying into Netflix now, you are basically helping to seal the fate of the only solution that is close to good. When you come back in 2013 and find NOTHING viable apart from torrents, well don't come crying to Slashdot!

    My thought is that the death of DVD's and physical rentals is greatly exaggerated as long as the streaming scene is so horrific and fragmented. I will continue to support Netflix because they are the only content neutral providers that I like the approach of.

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  17. Exclusive = bad for all consumers by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 2

    Exactly. Exclusive deals are bad for consumers because they eliminate competition. Netflix surely could have negotiated a lower fee for a non-exclusive deal. Since the $30 million per film will ultimately be passed along as higher fees to the Netflix subscribers in some way, subscribers are paying extra for something (exclusivity) that does not benefit them at all -- it benefit's Netflix, the company, in a strategic way. A non-exclusive deal would have been just as beneficial to Netflix subscribers, and would have cost them less, and would have allowed people that don't use Netflix to access the content as well. This deal is worse than a non-exclusive deal for all consumers, whether they subscribe to Netflix or not. Exclusivity is only good for Netfix, the corporation, and it's shareholders (if they didn't overpay).

  18. Re:It sounds great by Aighearach · · Score: 2

    I watched The Pirate Movie at least 300 times, and I turned out. I dunno about the OK part, but I am the very model of a modern major general, with information animal vegetable and mineral.