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GNOME 3.2 Released
supersloshy writes "Today marks the release of the latest edition of the GNOME Desktop for Linux-based operating systems. There are numerous fixes and improvements in this release such as smaller title bars (for small screens), the integration of GNOME Contacts and GNOME Documents for easy data management, web application integration, many more configurable settings, and other updates such as a more unified appearance and better chat integration."
Gnome is a tablet environment. Without the touch.
Sweet! For so long, I've suffered the inconvenience of clicking once on the taskbar. Now that tedious click is replaced by the much simpler (hold ALT)-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab [fuck, I missed it, keep going] -tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab(release ALT). This makes my life so much easier. What pure unadulterated genius. Thank you, oh GUIcrafters of Gnome. Your legendary names shall ring down the halls of history for all time.
o it's developed entirely in the open without a single corporate overlord
What is Red Hat again?
o it's trying out bleeding-edge design concepts instead of rehashing old interfaces and patterns
So you like being treated like a Guinea Pig??
o it's successfully targeting non-geek users AND proving quite usable for technical users.
non-geeks already have choosen the apple or microsoft way, because these have something gnome 3.2 still doesn't have: IT WORKS and the desktop IS INVISIBLE (Read: designed to help you, not get in your way)
KDE fails the non-geek user test - it's both obtuse and verbose.
True
XFCE is like a crappy, featureless GNOME 2/Windows mashup with a hint of SharpE.
Is minimalist, true, but at least you look at this and you already know where to go from it.
GNOME 2 is like a weird Windows/OS X mashup - functional, but nothing new there.
And that's was their beauty: It was _FUNCTIONAL_, and at the same time, well balanced for non-geeks users.
Unity is slick and crufty at the same time (quite the feat), and its direction is dictated by Canonical.
But is still more functional than gnome-shell and quite clear for non-geeks users. Probably is what gnome shell should 've been instead of the crap nowadays is.
Blackbox, Fvwm et al aren't desktop environments.
They are, but they are minimalist and require the user be a true geek to configure them to the user liking.
All you people criticizing GNOME 3 are doing exactly what your parents did when you tried to get them to use Linux years ago - holding on to what you know, fighting change, refusing to let old habits die or to see the good in a *different* way of working.
When the 9X% of your users says something is wrong, then something must be wrong... The problem is that the Gnome guys aren't known to hear anyone that don't praise their viewpoint of things. Kinda Ulrich Dreppers but more polite.
The GNOME team is actually trying something new, and that seems rare in the open source world. With the amount of vitriol being thrown at GNOME's developers, it's not really surprising that we seem doomed to keep cloning commercial software so that we can have it for free or tweak it for our piddling little edge-case requirements.
Then again, is not something _NEW_ they are doing, what these guys are trying to do is pushing the "smartphone" paradigm onto PC's. That is. Their ideas are not new: they were invented some years ago and introduced with the iphone. The problem is that our PC's aren't I-devices, but i think they don't want to hear that.
Turn in your geek cards, old dudes, from someone who was using Linux way back in the days of Slackware 4.
So you're and oldfag huh? well... I'm not that old, but at least i know the difference between a phone, a computer and a console.... I think that's way more than the gnome guys know about these nowadays... and maybe neither you, given what you wrote.
o it's developed entirely in the open without a single corporate overlord
What is Red Hat again?
One of several corporate sponsors. Unity has *one*. That's bad.
o it's trying out bleeding-edge design concepts instead of rehashing old interfaces and patterns
So you like being treated like a Guinea Pig??
I'm not being treated like anything, loser. I put the effort in, learned about what GNOME 3 was trying to do, altered my working patterns to give it a fair shake, and now I don't want to go back. I finally have a desktop that surpasses Windows and Mac OSX, and it's open source! Phenomenal.
And for new non-technical users without an established workflow, it'll be even easier to make the transition.
You don't have to like GNOME 3, but you're missing out. And the least you can do is show some respect for a project that is pushing the envelope FOR USERS.
o it's successfully targeting non-geek users AND proving quite usable for technical users.
non-geeks already have choosen the apple or microsoft way, because these have something gnome 3.2 still doesn't have: IT WORKS and the desktop IS INVISIBLE (Read: designed to help you, not get in your way)
My god, you truly are thick. GNOME 3 and 3.2 work, very well. No one can plausibly deny that. The only thing you can say is that they don't work for YOU, which would be significantly less offensive and misleading. Not to mention more honest.
GNOME *is* designed to help you and is as invisible as a desktop can get without being non-existent. It does ask you to change your workflow. It's worth the effort.
Non-geeks haven't really chosen anything beyond a brand identity. They just pick one of two widely available commercial platforms, usually based on their financial ability - the rich poser sheep choose macs, the poor non-technical scroungers get Windows 'cause that's what came on their Dell.
We want them to choose open platforms; that means we need to be both DIFFERENT and BETTER. GNOME 3 is the only desktop project moving that way.
When the 9X% of your users says something is wrong, then something must be wrong... The problem is that the Gnome guys aren't known to hear anyone that don't praise their viewpoint of things. Kinda Ulrich Dreppers but more polite.
The thing is, 9X% of users don't say that. Just a few bitter loud-mouths with invalid arguments. You people and your fresh-from-the-ass statistics. The GNOME guys respect debate among CONTRIBUTORS, not armchair critics parroting talking points (like you).
Turn in your geek cards, old dudes, from someone who was using Linux way back in the days of Slackware 4.
So you're and oldfag huh? well... I'm not that old, but at least i know the difference between a phone, a computer and a console.... I think that's way more than the gnome guys know about these nowadays... and maybe neither you, given what you wrote.
I understand now! You're a 17-year-old /b/ tard! Go back to trolling 4chan and running LOIC. You "knowing the difference" between existing platforms now means nothing. Stand back and watch people with actual skills DEFINE the way future platforms will look and act.
Never fear, they'll make things nice and easy to use for smug, self-important people like you.