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Australia's National Broadband Network Officially Open For Business
sydneyhype writes "The Australian National Broadband Network is open for business. The 14,000 residents on the first roll-out will be able to order an NBN service (current ISP contract permitting). Internode, Exetel, and iiNet have released their commercial pricing. iiNet has undercut Internode with prices starting at $49.95 per month for 12Mbps down and 1Mbps up with 20gb on-peak and 20gb off-peak."
It's only like Japan where you can get fast connections cheaply. In rest of the Asia connections cost just as much, if even you even can get faster than 8/1 at all. Only Europe has it good, and it's just some countries too. I know, I live in both Europe and Asia.
Well, it would have been. I don't have this new NBN thingy yet...
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I say, mates, this is bloody impressive.
What's this on-peak, off-peak stuff? I speak American, please translate.
iiNet has undercut Internode with prices starting at $49.95 per month for 12Mbps down and 1Mbps up with 20gb on-peak and 20gb off-peak."
When comparing iinet to Internode, one has to remember that Internode doesn't do this on peak/off peak thingy. On peak is the download limit you have between 8 AM and 12 Midnight, off peak is the download limit between 12 Midnight and 8 AM. With Internode you get 40 GB whatever time of the day it is.
However, having been a happy customer of both iinet's and Internode's ADSL offerings, both are great ISP's you wont be unhappy with. I'm waiting for Telstra and Optus to release their NBN pricing, that should be hillarious.
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Good value! With Internode, on copper ADSL2+ (24 down, 1.5 up), 150GB monthly quota, all for... $50!
I'll let the early adopters adopt this one. (on the other hand, those poor sods that hadn't heard that you didn't need to use Telstra would probably consider this a good deal).
$49.95 for only 12Mbits with a 40Gb total cap?
Now that is enough to send me down to the pub for a tinny or two while I watch the rugger.
That is a ******y rip off.
but the cap is 40gigs [20gb on-peak and 20gb off-peak]? at those speeds you could use up your whole allotment in like 2 days, and I hate to see what the overages costs.
This is newsworthy how? Does an ISP rollout in California, which has ******************DOUBLE******************* the population, get a /. post?
In rural Australia there is no NBN for you. Enjoy your congestion, I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of the exchanges in Australia have backhaul problems it's pretty appalling. NBN change it? I hope so but I am not exactly expecting a positive result.
I so want the NBN service now. At the next election, there is likely to be a change of government and the current opposition claim that they will cut back the scope of the NBN project (like only provide wifi and/or fibre to the neighbourhood instead of providing fibre to the home).
I want the NBN to do my town before the next election (we are on the list, but it could take years for them to get to us).
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I am near the NBN rollout - but I get 100Gb (no peak) a month for $69 - and I sync at 22mbps down, 1.1mbps up on ADSL2. So why would I?
20 gigs? For that price? You gotta be kidding me - I get 20 gigs easily in a week just from work (yeah, when you can mount a .iso from your computer to install in vmware and the speed is about equal to actually first upload the image to storage server you get lazy...) and those speeds - it is now 2011, not 2000 when 12/1 Mbps was hot.
Here 100/10, 19,90 euros / month. No caps. Gasoline however costs a crapton and half a year it is freezing and dark but at least connectivity is good and cheap.
Unfortunately NBNCo have successfully propagated a scarcity myth in both speed and data, so 50% will be connecting at 12/1Mbps (page 118 of NBNCo Corporate Plan). The government have been promoting 1000/400Mbps (which the installed hardware is capable of), but those plans aren't expected to appear until 2026, and eHealth, but HD Video conferencing won't work on a 1Mbps upload.
Telstra have just launched an LTE network and the other mobile carriers will also launch LTE networks shortly for the low-end user these networks will be $10-$20/month cheaper than the NBN. So much so that NBNCo have been trying to restrain the mobile operators from competing. If the wireless operators can take more than the 13% that NBNCo are predicting (page 116) then NBNCo will be in serious trouble and prices will rise.
In summary, Australia is building a world class fibre to the premises network, but it is going to be hamstrung by speed tiers which deliver little extra money to NBNCo (~$4/month) and reduce NBNCo's income from data.
19$ for 100/100 mbps uncapped where i live, not even cold. All hail FTTB. (with cat5 last mile)
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Considering Fibre is more reliable and the copper network isn't redundant. Whats your point?
A step in the right direction in terms of services but the bandwidth cap is a bit much for a hefty price.
No doubt a little competition can alleviate these minor issues.
One day Australia will be like other countries where you can get 20mb (Usually not) unlimited broadband for £10 or less...
Now, for the real Australian broadband test; how much would it cost to hire a mail pigeon to deliver a 32mb stick and how quickly will that transfer.
Suppose you can deliver 1tb 2.5" drives with a pigeon, but can it fly over the Southern Ocean?! No? oh gee well that's $50 for 20gb mate.
So my "move to Canada" fund needs to be adjusted to "move to Australia". Do they have trailer parks in Australia?
Having to work for a living is the root of all evil.
I'm already on 24 Mbit/s down, no on- of offpeak limits for 60 bucks a month. And I'm not in a state capital.
Does the B stand for Bullshit or is this just an initial rolling out which will aim at getting all the suckers?
Australia beats my connection / price on everything except Data caps. I currently have Timewarner Wideband Internet in Dallas, Texas. I currently have 50 Mbps Down and 5 Mbps Up as my selected tier package. Which costs $99.99(USD) a month. I see that it would cost a Australian with iiNet only $99.95($99.95 Australian Dollars = 97.0015 US dollars) for Twice the speed with a 1 TB Cap. They have me beat on pricepoint. But Timewarner has no Data caps in my area.
IS there a hidden price tag?
Also cheaper to maintain. It's marginal but it changes the maintenance cost structure from continuous upkeep (power, line degradation etc.) to largely being the expense of replacing direct physical damage (trees, back hoes).
When was a copper-only POTS network ever redundant?
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That's potentially not even one full-sized PlayStation 3 game. PS3 games come on Blu-ray Disc, and dual-layer discs can be up to 50 GB.
Because everyone is using the internet for piracy.
How exactly is it piracy to buy a video game on PlayStation Store?
But I agree that 40 GB should probably be enough for entry-level users who don't rent movies online (does Australia even have a counterpart to Netflix?) and don't subscribe to the "discs are going away in the next console generation" philosophy.
the pattern is usually a low starting price to lock you in and then the price floats up at the end of the contract period, either 6 months or a year later. NBN promises a roughly equal service to most people in Oz, some of us won't see much speed difference, others will. The downside is that rural customers will only get the service they have now, that is, poor ADSL, or 3G wireless, sat doesn't really count as it's usually subsidised and services so few few people. NBN isn't planning on going into towns smaller than 1000 people.
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Queue hordes of Eurotrash boasting about their enormous speeds / tiny costs.
Here's a clue, Klaus Kraftwerkkrauthumper - your entire country is less than half the size of New South Wales, yet has four times the subscriber base of all of Australia. A little bit harder building a single national broadband network in a country a third as big again as the whole of Europe with a tiny population of 21m to pay for it.
By the way, you lost. Twice.
The NBN is a highly political topic in Australia. The opposition leader blames it for loosing him the last election (probably right too). He hates it with a passion. He appointed Malcolm Turnbull to "destroy the NBN". A job he has been working on ever since. There have been many lies and much FUD spread by them and their sock puppets (particularly their propaganda wing, "The Australian")
This is a fairly typical example:
As a taxpayer and citizen of Australia I want the $40 billion dollar waste of money (and way to appease country based members of parliament) shutdown and the money handed back to taxpayers.
If this person actually had a clue, they would know that the NBN is "off budget". It isn't being paid for out of taxpayer dollars. It is being funded by Government bonds. So there is NO MONEY TO GIVE BACK TO TAXPAYERS. But this is a favourite lie they like to peddle. As well as it not actually costing tax payers anything in the long run it will actually make a modest profit (~7% IRR)
The "appeasing country based MPs" is also pure BS. The NBN was planned and under way well before the country based MPs held the balance of power. It's just that they have all realised how beneficial it will be to the country and it was one of the reasons they chose to back the Government, rather than the Opposition (hence their hatred of it).
Another part of the FUD is that the actual budget is $36B, but they love to round it up to $40B or $50B or even $60B.
To put the price tag into perspective, even if it were to come out of the budget, it would be less than 1%!!! For such a significant national infrastructure item that will last for decades to come, that's pretty small bickies.
Ever stop to think
Nothing is "likely" about Abbott and his Luddites winning the next election, a lot can change in the next 2 years. By then, the NBN and the Carbon Price will either be huge positives or huge negatives, in real terms, rather than the current fear of the unknown that we Aussies tend to wallow in in the political sphere. That's why the Climate Change deniers and Luddites have tried to delay them.
I get better speeds than that for cheaper on my portable wimax with great service all across japan & korea!
It is already a billion dollars over budget and only deployed in a handfull of places around the country.