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BerliOS Software Repository Will Close At Year's End

An anonymous reader writes with some sad news from Germany, as posted on the BerliOS front page, and sent by email to developers as well. An excerpt: "As an European, non-proprietary project BerliOS pursued the goal to support the various open-source players and provide a neutral mediator function. In 2011 over 4710 projects have been hosted on BerliOS, with 50,000 registered users and over 2.6 million file downloads each month. We are proud that with BerliOS we have brought the idea of an OSS repository to Europe. Meanwhile, the concept has prevailed and there are many good alternatives. Unfortunately, as a research institute Fraunhofer FOKUS has only few opportunities to operate a repository like BerliOS. Such a project will only work with a follow-up financing, or with sponsors or partners taking over the repository. In the field of OSS this is a difficult undertaking. In a recent survey the community indicated some support in funds and manpower which we would like to thank you for. Unfortunately, the result is not enough to put the project on a sustainable financial basis. In addition the search for sponsors or partners was unsuccessful. ... As a developer, you should export your BerliOS project into another repository." BerliOS is slated to close on December 31st.

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  1. Already on it by AI0867 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I started researching tools and writing scripts to split up a repository and move to github yesterday.
    If you have a complicated non-standard svn layout, you should look into the svn2git on gitorious (there are many tools with that name).

  2. Orphaned projects' code to perish? by zapyon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hi. As someone else mentioned in some German forum, it is probable that all orphaned projects on BerliOS will perish the day BerliOS is taken down for good. - Anyone here who could offer a full mirror of the data. Or would Archive.org be an option? zapyon

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    1. Re:Orphaned projects' code to perish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't have to sign your name, this is not an email, you know.

    2. Re:Orphaned projects' code to perish? by polymeris · · Score: 2

      What's the main resource drain in such a project? Would deleting (or exporting) the 8000 or so orphaned projects have kept BerliOS afloat in the first place?

    3. Re:Orphaned projects' code to perish? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      What's the main resource drain in such a project? Would deleting (or exporting) the 8000 or so orphaned projects have kept BerliOS afloat in the first place?

      Probably not - things like storage, web servers, etc. are pretty easy to maintain in a constant fashion. What scales is answering, "I can't get this to work," sorts of questions and those grow as a function of only the number of active projects.

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  3. Re:Get ready Sourceforge by Yuioup · · Score: 2

    You mean "get ready Github ..."

  4. I didn't even know they had financial difficulties by RR · · Score: 3, Informative

    BerliOS definitely has publicity problems. Either that, or the people running it don't have much of a passion for keeping it running, because the first I heard about them having problems was about them deciding to shut it down.

    Contrast that to, say, Wikipedia, Blender, or The Document Foundation. Major publicity when they needed money, with progress tallies and everything. Especially Wikipedia.

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  5. Re:Get ready Sourceforge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Several projects actually migrated from Sourceforge to BerliOS after Sourceforge was forced to make developers indicate whether their project might contain code not suitable for export to countries such as Iran according to US foreign policy rules (and developers moreover have to register with some US department if they indicate that their project does contain such code and want to have it hosted on Sourceforge).

  6. Re:Get ready Sourceforge by Compaqt · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sourceforge alternative for the GNU-minded:

    GNU Savannah
    http://savannah.gnu.org/

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  7. Re:Who's heart's bleeding by KiloByte · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let's ogg them!

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  8. Re:monday morning's grammar lesson. by moonbender · · Score: 2

    Sounds to me like you're describing some serious cultural anxiety there.

    And you're deluding yourself about the difference between the UK and continental Europe. The UK isn't so different and the various countries in continental Western Europe aren't as similar as you seem to think. Having been in all of those places, the difference between Germany and the UK is smaller than, e.g., the difference between Germany and Italy or Spain. In either case, the similarities dominate. And the dissimilarities within the countries (e.g. between urban and rural, richest vs poorest 10%) are more significant than the dissimilarities between the countries.

    It's obviously not even the same ball park as the difference between Mexico and the US; I mean, that's just ludicrous.

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  9. Re:Who's heart's bleeding by westlake · · Score: 2

    Who's heart's bleeding? The Faunhofer Institute, isn't that the bunch of goons that burn government money and then want money for the stuff they come up with?

    Applied research demands money and talent that does not come free.

    You need a budget of about 1.65 billion euros each year to function at this level.

    The Fraunhofer Society earns ca. 70% of its income through contracts with industry or specific government projects. The other 30% of the budget is sourced in the proportion 9:1 from federal and state (Land) government grants and is used to support preparatory research.

    Thus the size of the society's budget depends largely on its success in maximizing revenue from commissions. This funding model applies not just to the central society itself but also to the individual institutes. This serves both to drive the realisation of the Fraunhofer Society's strategic direction of becoming a leader in applied research...

    The Fraunhofer Society currently operates 60 institutes. The organisation has seven centers in the United States, under the name 'Fraunhofer USA', and three in Asia. In October 2010, Fraunhofer announced that it would open its first research center in South America.

    These are Fraunhofer Institutes for:

    Algorithms and Scientific Computing -- SCAI
    Applied Information Technology -- FIT
    Applied and Integrated Security -- AISEC
    Applied Optics and Precision Engineering -- IOF
    Applied Polymer Research --IAP
    Applied Solid State Physics â" IAF
    Biomedical Engineering -- IBMT
    Building Physics -- IBP
    Ceramic Technologies and Systems -- IKTS
    Chemical Technology -- ICT
    Communication, Information Processing and Ergonomics -- FKIE
    Communication Systems -- ESK Computer Architecture and Software Technology -- FIRST
    Computer Graphics Research -- IGD
    Digital Media Technology -- IDMT
    Electron and Plasma Technology -- FEP
    e-Government -- Fraunhofer eGovernment Center
    Environmental, Safety and Energy Technology -- UMSICHT
    Experimental Software Engineering -- IESE
    Factory Operation and Automation -- IFF
    High Frequency Physics and Radar Techniques -- FHR
    High-Speed Dynamics, Ernst-Mach-Institut -- EMI
    Industrial Engineering -- IAO
    Industrial Mathematics -- ITWM
    Optronics, System Technologies and Image Exploitation -- IOSB
    Information Center for Regional Planning and Building Construction -- IRB
    Integrated Circuits -- IIS
    Integrated Systems and Device Technology -- IISB>br>Integrated Publication and Information Systems -- IPSI
    Intelligent Analysis and Information Systems -- IAIS
    Interfacial Engineering and Biotechnology -- IGB
    Laser Technology -- ILT
    Machine Tools and Forming Technology -- IWU
    Manufacturing Engineering and Applied Materials Research -- IFAM
    Manufacturing Engineering and Automation -- IPA
    Material and Beam Technology -- IWS
    Material Flow and Logistics -- IML
    Mechanics of Materials -- IWM
    Medical Image Computing -- MEVIS
    Microelectronic Circuits and Systems -- IMS
    Molecular Biology and Applied Ecology -- IME
    Telecommunications, Heinrich-Hertz-Institut -- HHI
    Non-Destructive Testing -- IZFP
    Optronics, System Technologies and Image Exploitation -- IOSB
    Open Communication Systems -- FOKUS
    Patent Center for German Research -- PST
    Photonic Microsystems -- IPMS
    Physical Measurement Techniques -- IPM
    Process Engineering and Packaging -- IVV
    Production Systems and Design Technology -- IPK
    Production Technology -- IPT
    Reliability and Microintegration -- IZM
    Secure Information Technology -- SIT
    Silicate Research -- ISC
    Silicon Technology -- ISIT
    Smart Systems Integration by using Micro and Nano Technologies -- ENAS
    Software and Systems Technology -- ISST
    Solar Energy Systems -- ISE
    Structural Durability and System Reliability -- LBF
    Systems and Innovation Research -- ISI
    Technological Trend Analysis -- INT
    Technology Development Group -- TEG