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Children Helped Decorate Prehistoric Caves of France

sciencehabit writes "Among the prolific paintings and other art in the 8 kilometer-long Rouffignac cave system in southwestern France are a number of unusual markings known as finger flutings, which are made by people dragging their hands through the soft silt that lines the cave's walls. By analyzing the finger flutings of modern humans, researchers discovered that the ratio of the distance between the three middle fingers indicate that many of the cave artists were very young children, one as young as 2 or 3 years old. The researchers were also able to tell the children's genders from the shape of the fingers."

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  1. Here's a little more info from the paywalled link by ridgecritter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Most preschoolers get scolded for writing on walls, but kids living 13,000 years ago were encouraged to scribble, at least in caves. Among the prolific paintings and other art in the 8 kilometer-long Rouffignac cave system in southwestern France are a number of unusual markings known as finger flutings, which are made by people dragging their hands through the soft silt that lines the cave's walls. By analyzing the finger flutings of modern humans, researchers discovered that the ratio of the distance between the three middle fingers indicate that many of the cave artists were very young children, one as young as 2 or 3 years old. The researchers were also able to tell the children's genders from the shape of the fingers. Some of these flutings were too steady for a toddler, suggesting that an adult guided the child's hand while teaching him or her, the researchers will report this weekend at the archaeology of childhood conference in Cambridge, U.K. Since the children's drawings seemed to be concentrated in one chamber, the researchers believe that the alcove may have been a sort of art school. And some of the drawings were high on the walls and on the ceiling, suggesting that the children were lifted."

    Very cool. I love how we can open windows onto our ancestors' lives through a bunch of boring measurements of finger tracks on a dusty cave wall.

  2. Art? by Culture20 · · Score: 2

    How are we sure it's not just people dragging their fingers along the wall to navigate in the dark?

    1. Re:Art? by Scutter · · Score: 2, Funny

      How are we sure it's not just people dragging their fingers along the wall to navigate in the dark?

      Or people trying desperately to find something to grab onto as some unspeakable horror dragged them into the depths of the cave by their ankles?

      --

      "Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
    2. Re:Art? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some of the drawings were very high up so children had to have been lifted by adults to reach them. Moreover, there are clear designs in the patterns, and swirls and the like. They aren't just straight lines at height level. And as discussed at http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/features/prehistoric-pre-school/, the children's work was mainly confined largely to a single room.

    3. Re:Art? by formfeed · · Score: 2

      Some of the drawings were very high up so children had to have been lifted by adults to reach them. Moreover, there are clear designs in the patterns, and swirls and the like. [...] the children's work was mainly confined largely to a single room.

      Pretty obvious. It must have been Mrs. Oogh's kindergarden art project

  3. At a conference, paper details not online by JoshuaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, the presentation in question doesn't seem to be online. There was a presentation on this subject at a conference at Cambridge http://www.sscip.org.uk/files/SSCIP%20Annual%20Conference%202011/Programme%20Autumn%202011a.pdf which apparently includes a lot of other examples of artifacts made by children in cultures throughout human history. Can someone find the relevant papers online? The author of the work is Jess Cooney from Cambridge. There's a page http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/features/prehistoric-pre-school/ with more details but I can't find actual preprints or the like.

    But there's one thing that this sort of thing really shows: science rocks. We can use clever tests and careful measurements to figure out details about the age of children painting on caves. This is exactly why science is awesome. And we're always learning more and more, developing more clever techniques, and finding out more about the universe and ourselves. We are on a long, slow, possibly never-ending journey. But that journey leads closer and closer to truth. And those children and adults long ago who struggled to survive and experimented with different ways to paint are part of that same journey that we are.

    (Sorry, something about this story just gets me a bit emotional.)

  4. Re:Ironic? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 2

    You may be thinking of an incident that occurred a few years ago where kids volunteering to help clean up graffiti cleaned up cave paintings that they thought were graffiti. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/22/world/french-youths-clean-a-cave-and-damage-prehistoric-art.html.

  5. Stupid modern laws by antifoidulus · · Score: 2

    When I tried to use children to decorate my house the taxidermist called the cops. Stupid modern laws.

  6. How long will *your* refrigerator door last? by billstewart · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My mom still has one of those plaster castings of a handprint one of us did in kindergarten sitting in one of her cabinets. I'm not sure we know who, unless the teacher wrote our name on the back :-)

    Meanwhile, if you ever get another chance to see the movie Cave of Forgotten Dreams in 3D, absolutely go see it. Werner Herzog took a camera crew into the oldest known painted cave in France for a couple of days, and it really did need to be filmed in 3D.

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  7. Re:Ironic? by Kaenneth · · Score: 2

    1992... a few years ago... fuck, we're getting old.

  8. Re:Here's a little more info from the paywalled li by BenSchuarmer · · Score: 2

    "This why we not have nice things"

  9. Re:paywalled link by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

    You call that art? My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother could do that!

  10. Boys and girls by opentunings · · Score: 2
    "The researchers were also able to tell the children's genders from the shape of the fingers."

    I remember a story about the famous pediatrician Dr. Benjamin Spock. When told that a child's gender could be determined by the shape of the skull at birth, he replied "I prefer the traditional methods..."

  11. Re:So like my oldest by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

    Why, you puppies (62 here) don't remember what it was like when all walls had textures. You didn't have to get into traffic and drive down to the texture museum, you had real plaster walls right at home.

    It was glorious.

    My grandpa used to regale me with stories of wattle.