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Amazon Disables 3G Web Browsing For New 3G Kindle Touch

destinyland writes "Amazon's going to disable 3G web browsing on their upcoming 'Kindle Touch 3G' — even though it was a prominent feature of the last generation of Kindles. Amazon will still allow web browsing on the Kindle Touch 3G using a local Wi-Fi connection, but it's one of many unsettling details emerging from Amazon's announcement last week. Apparently Amazon's cloud will now also include a list of personal documents that you're mailing to your Kindle. And the on-screen keyboard for Amazon's bargain $79 Kindles won't be a touchscreen keyboard, so users will have to nudge the controller repeatedly to gradually navigate from one key to the next."

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  1. heh by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm unsure how anyone could have imagined that the on-screen keyboard for the $79 model would be touch. Every bit of info. I've seen from Amazon comparing the models makes it incredibly clear that it doesn't have a touch screen. The models that do, surprisingly enough, have touch in the name (except for the fire but I don't think anyone is confused about what's going on there.)

    The 3g limitations on the touch are a bit disappointing, but I can't imagine too many people will be impacted greatly. Using the browser on an e-ink kindle is not something anyone would really be looking to do if they had other options. The only time I'm really seeing 3g browsing as something desirable is when I'm traveling and data on my phone is prohibitively expensive. If I'm not data roaming, I can just use my phone as wi-fi hot spot for the kindle, but if I want to be on the web I'll be doing it on my phone. I doubt the majority of kindle users are also international travelers who use it as a way to get cheap data access for the web.

    When I got my first Kindle I got on the web quickly, just to do it. I don't think I've done it again since. I do have a friend who was traveling in Austria and got into a bind. His wife was able to get on the web with her kindle, as they were driving, and find a place to stay in the next town ahead. I think they were data roaming so that's why they didn't just use a phone.

    I like the idea that emailed docs will get stored by Amazon especially if they get stored as part of my archive and they are available to all my registered kindles. Right now my family reads a lot of stuff that on our kindles that I don't get from Amazon. So I have to email it to each one, and I have to have the machine available that has the original documents. If I could email the doc once, then have it available to all kindles any time I want - that would be sweet.

    I'm getting a couple of the $79 Kindles as soon as I can. Probably next time I'm in the states. That's the cost of a tank of gas for my car for a great ebook reader.

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    1. Re:heh by drolli · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes. sadly mine was stolen in 2004. i bought a z31 and was disappointed. Thing i liked about the m105:

      *well readable under any lighting conditions
      *long stand by time
      *long battery life
      *no charger, you could get batteries for it at the end of the world (and have a pack of spares in your pocket)
      *back lighted display was extremely eye-friendly and could be used in complete darkness in the plane without disturbing your neighbors.
      *built-in PIM was better and faster than anything i have seen for Android or Symbian
      *Email could be read via modem/irda on mobile phones
      *beaming vcards by irda was fast, much faster and more reliable to initiate than by bluetooth (between siemens, nokia, palm)
      *the design of the protective cover was *brilliant*. when i had the m105 i did not need another watch
      *it did not crash on built-in applications (unlike my android or my nokia e63)
      *i miss the memo function to scribble with the stylus

      So yes. they did squeeze every bit of user experience possible to achieve with a resistive touch screen of 160x200 pixels, 5 hardware buttons, 8MB of ram and 16MHz of processing power. Sad to see where their road took them.

  2. Oblig. XKCD by psergiu · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://xkcd.com/548/
    (see mouse-over text)

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    1. Re:Oblig. XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except that Wikipedia browsing is still allowed according to TFA.

  3. Re:No 3G and No Touchscreen Keyboard? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the field of pixel-addressable e-ink screened devices, $80 is very aggressive pricing. It would appear that they have chosen to go with the "make it cheaper" option, (which advances in technology generally provide as an alternative to "make it better"), for this particular kindle.

    Only the sales figures will say for sure whether it was a good idea; but encheapening the hell out of the lowest-end dedicated conduit to your gigantic electronic store doesn't seem like an obviously crazy strategy...

  4. Non-touch is preferred for reading by inflex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've used touch-screen page turning and I also use the K3 bezel-button page turning systems, I know when it comes to reading a book the bezel mounted side buttons are a lot nicer than having to constantly move your finger and tap the screen just to turn the page.

    Sure, when it comes to typing out stuff the non-touch is a bit of a PITA, but I spend more time reading books than trying to type out things.

    The $79 kindle is a great development, strips away the bits that a lot of people use infrequently, drops the price, size and weight - all good.

  5. "Unsettling" by tgd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its hard to imagine how anyone could be unsettled by a set of (completely obvious) changes to a consumer device.

    Drama much?

    - Obviously web browsing over 3G was going to be disabled. Amazon has *always* said it was experimental, and *obviously* they were going to remove it when they annouced free 3G access around the world.
    - Obviously a device without a touch screen and nothing but arrow keys was going to be a pain in the ass to use. I can count on my hands the number of times in four years I've used the keyboard on my Kindle. The target audience for it will never miss it.

    The submitter is a moron if those were so much as a surprise, much less "unsettling".

    1. Re:"Unsettling" by N1AK · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's the same hyperbolic bollocks that led them to call 3G browsing on the current Kindle "a prominent feature". I bought a 3G kindle in no small part because access to travel information and wikipedia anywhere abroad made the price worthwhile. I wouldn't have bought it if it didn't offer that functionality. However, it was never, NEVER, made out by Amazon to be a prominent feature. I doubt it was mentioned anywhere on the box and the whole fucking brower was a 'test/beta' feature and comparitiely hidden away.

      In short. If you can't find something interesting enough to submit that it doesn't require hyperbole, don't submit it.

  6. Re:No 3G and No Touchscreen Keyboard? by shadowrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It worked great for the iPhone.

  7. Re:No 3G and No Touchscreen Keyboard? by somersault · · Score: 4, Informative

    The 3G model will still be able to download books for free, internationally. It just won't have free international web browsing any more. I thought the free web browsing was an insanely good deal for anyone who needed it (I don't need it since my phone's data bill is paid by work). I'm not surprised they're taking that feature away, it must cost them a whole lot of money if a lot of users are generating roaming charges.

    Anyway, I've ordered my mum one of the new low-end Kindles. I'd be happy to give her my keyboard version if she wants the keyboard, since I didn't even want a keyboard on mine in the first place. There is no need for it. Whether I'm using my actual Kindle, or the Kindle app on my tablet or phone, I never need to type anything. Most people with a Kindle will already have a much better device for general browsing to hand, and simply selecting the links (or browsing to words to see the dictionary definition - my favourite feature of Kindle by far) with the directional controller will work fine anyway.

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  8. Re:No 3G and No Touchscreen Keyboard? by edremy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, I already have it and no, I don't regret it in the slightest. E-ink's come a long way- the updates are not sluggish, and I spend about 1% of the time with the device actually using a menu. If I want a touch device I have an iPad. I don't want another iPad- I want something to read books, and the lighter weight of the $79 model is worth the tradeoff.

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