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Autism Traits Prove Valuable for Software Testing

Back in 2009 we ran a story about a Chicago based non-profit company that trained high-functioning autistic people to be software testers. Two years later Aspiritech has grown to offer services in Belgium, Japan and Israel. Autistic debuggers are used by large clients like Oracle and Microsoft and have proven to be so good in fact that companies are now recruiting to meet demand. From the article: "Aspiritech's board of directors includes social service providers, therapists, a vocational expert and a software engineer. The nonprofit also received start-up advice and consultation from Keita Suzuki, who has co-founded a similar company, called Kaien, in Japan. Aspiritech has hired and trained seven recruits with Asperger's syndrome. These recruits have since worked on software-testing projects for smartphone and cloud-computing applications. Aspiritech now offers functional-, compatibility- and regression-testing, as well as test-case development, with experience in cloud-computing platforms including Salesforce."

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  1. What they really should do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is just recruit people who bought minecraft. It's really part of the same population set, but these one's are already used to using computers for 10 hours a day doing the same repetitive thing over and over.

    1. Re:What they really should do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... but these one's are already used to using computers for 10 hours a day doing the same repetitive thing over and over.

      And you hit up Slashdot how many times a day?

  2. And.... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    Autism Traits Prove Valuable for Software Testing

    Not to mention for con artists scamming gullible parents of children with autism into believing widely used vaccines caused their kids' disorder, rather than the genes they pass on to said children.

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    1. Re:And.... by artor3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      But we do know that autism isn't caused by vaccines.

    2. Re:And.... by Diamonddavej · · Score: 5, Informative

      Dozens of identical/fraternal twin studies, initially carried out in the 70s, prove unquestionably that autism is up to 92% genetic. While it's been hard to point to specific genetic anomalies that cause it, it does not invalidate its genetic roots. The genetics of autism is more nuanced and complex than we realised, as are other inherited conditions, it's not genes but also involves e.g. copy number variations.

      Bailey, A., Le Couteur, A., Gottesman, I., Bolton, P., Simonoff, E., Yuzda, E. & Rutter, M. 1995. Autism as a strongly genetic disorder: evidence from a British twin study. Psychological Medicine 25(1), 63-77.

      Glessner, J.T., et al., 2009. Autism genome-wide copy number variation reveals ubiquitin and neuronal genes. Nature 459(7246), 569-573.

    3. Re:And.... by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Science only very rarely shows that some hypothesis is correct. More often, it shows that every other tested hypothesis is wrong, and that the one that's left is just the most likely.

      The "vaccines cause autism" hypothesis has been tested, and is shown to most likely be wrong. The "magic space fairy causes autism" hypothesis hasn't yet been tested, or the "too many hard sneezes while pregnant causes autism" hypothesis, nor a few hundred others. We have such a long way to go...

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    4. Re:And.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's this impressive new field of mathematics called "statistics" - you may have heard about it already on Slashdot. Using statistics, yes, you can often make statements like "x does not cause y". By comparing people with and without x to see if they have the same or different rates of y. If the rates differ, x and y are related. If the rates are the same, then, no, x and y are not related.

      Conveniently, this was done back when people started blaming autism on vaccines. The rates were the same. The severity was the same. The ages were the same.

      Also conveniently, arguments like "different chemistry" are not an effective magical charm against statistics. Especially in the case of autism, where common genes have already been identified, and people with those genes still have the same autism rates whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

    5. Re:And.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, unfortunately, if only it where that simple. Womb environment cannot be separated from genetic or epigenetic influence via these methods which only conciser one generation, or even for grandparent/ parent/ child traces, particularly because all three can be multi-generational. Womb environment can appear to have affects 2 generations after the trigger if you are pregnant with a girl at the time of the trigger (as eggs are formed during gestation not after birth). Epigenetic effects although non genetic are perpetuated, such as methaylation of the DNA(which is copied to the new strand after replication), they can fade but are inherited beyond womb environment.

    6. Re:And.... by rla3rd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And the most recent twin study proves that autism is largely environmental.

      "But surprisingly, mathematical modeling suggested that only 38 percent of the cases could be attributed to genetic factors, compared with the 90 percent suggested by previous studies."

      This study would disagree with you.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/health/research/05autism.html

    7. Re:And.... by gregfortune · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The actual statement that you make is that "x is UNLIKELY to case y" along with a degree of confidence. artor3's comment is stated as an absolute so don't bother tossing stats into the discussion. Stats deals with estimation, likelyhood, probability, forecasting, etc. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_intervals and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_significance

      artor3's comment is also stated without citation. Not a good start :(

  3. Properly traine software testers by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    do well at software testing. That's really the story here. Autism is irreverent. This very idea is based upon a lot of wrong information about people with Autism.

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    1. Re:Properly traine software testers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wish I could mod you up.

      Hollywood's sensationalism has brought us the comic-book idea of what is essentially "game balance" in real life. In real life, you don't gain magical super powers just because you're blind and you aren't somehow a super-genius just because you're shy, introverted and obsessed with details. Autism is not a romantic backstory about how a young boy was crippled at an early age and then developed his mental powers to overcome this weakness. One does not gain flaws for points to spend on buying new character features in real life.

      It's pretty despicable to see this idea being perpetuated, this dramatic blurb about tortured backroom cripples using their super powers for good... Just stop it.

    2. Re:Properly traine software testers by Diamonddavej · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Autism is not irrelevant. Cognitive style of autism can be positively used in employment, once a workplace understands autism's specific strengths. The most salient features are Weak Central Coherence and Need for Routine. If workplace adapts to the autistic cognitive style, everyone will benefit. There is too much focus on deficits rather then splinter skills and cognitive strengths.

      Weak Central Coherence - means autistic people are detail obsessed, they observe smallest parts and elements of the environment, and construct the overall picture from individual parts. This is ideal for identifying and spotting anomalies in software, identifying mistakes, dealing with information. For example, it's been known for years that autistic people are far superior in locating hidden features in the Embedded Figures Test.

      Need for Routine - repetitive and otherwise boring tasks are soothing, enjoyed and relaxing. Furthermore, attention is not lost nor mistakes made, when autistic person is engaged in repetitive tasks.

    3. Re:Properly traine software testers by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Autism is irreverent.

      Man, I don't go in for formality either, but I don't think autism is any more irreverent than any other disease. ~

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    4. Re:Properly traine software testers by Permutation+Citizen · · Score: 2

      Software testing is not boring. Most people ignore or don't understand what is software testing. They just think it's just about using a software following a given written scenario (the test case). That's only a small part of the job, and when it's repetitive you have to automate it.

  4. and alot of companies don't do much testing at all by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    Now out side debuggers / testers do have there up's and downs but at times having ones that are in the same place as the people doing the coding is better with less trun around time.

    Now I hope that they are being payed for the long hours with full over time pay.

  5. sure.. dismiss the uniqueness of aspergers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have asperger.. I'm glad that there's more & more peeps who see that its not a disability; but rather a unique way of looking at the world.

    Its really not the same worldpicture you 'normals' see... I can really get upset if i see 'wrongs' in this world. Just as i feel in a way that it's the same as seeing 'wrongs' in software or hardware. I wont be able to put it behind me; or just to buy something to make me feel good... Or just accept that my boss says its the rigth thing; or that there's no money or something 'reasonable' like that.

    You talk about training.. Its not training; its in the core being who you are. Are you dedicated enough to spend ALL your energy (&that's the same amount of energy that you have) in trying to get the job done.. to find ALL the things that are wrong with something? (& not be at home spending time on your cat/girl/man/car/career/whatever).

    Peeps who have the same as i have, generally can focus ALL of their attention to the project they are dedicated to. Totally emerce yourself in a project; even if it takes longer than you think; even if it means skipping a few days of sleep..

    I'm sure you are a dedicated individual; that has the ability to do his/her job right.. But i generally don't see the (not negatively meant) singlemindedness/focus i can put in something that interest me.

    I can see that there are cases that let Asperger's syndrome be an advantage (the same way as i have seen it being a disadvantage in my life sometimes) when checking out something.

    Too bad you dismiss it as irrelevant. Maybe someday in the future you will understand the pro's and cons of someone with asperger.

    I'm glad my current employer understands... I do know she's happy that i'm there; even though i sometimes do things 'normals' dont expect, or do. & sometimes i cost more of her energy..

    I also know that i've saved the company a lot of resources just because i happen to think 'out of the box' & do things my way; not the way peeps expect you to be/perform.

    1. Re:sure.. dismiss the uniqueness of aspergers by Sparx139 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Online essays don't necessarily point either way -- my text messages often span over 3 messages (diagnosed nearly 5 years ago, had plenty of time to deal with the symptoms), and I've read about a high-functioning autistic guy who's one of the best speechwriters in America (Send in the Idiots, a short book if anyone is interested). Check out some of the posts over at wrongplanet some time if you don't believe me; sitting behind a screen makes it a lot easier to communicate, as one can think about what they want to say and take their time with it. Also, there's nothing like body language to compound the difficulty of communicating.

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  6. Re:Aspergers / Autism by digitig · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe it's over-self-diagnosed, but there's a proper clinical diagnosis, and it's a serious condition. The person with Asperger's does have significant strengths, though, and they tend to align with technology skills, so there's no real surprise here to those who know about Aperger's.

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  7. Not so sure about that by msobkow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Asperger's is a mild form of autism. One of it's characteristics is that the people who have it focus very intently on what they're doing for extended periods of time. As a result, they make excellent programmers and testers because they'll put in hours without even realizing the time has gone by.

    In a sense, Asperger's is almost the reverse of ADD.

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    1. Re:Not so sure about that by Andtalath · · Score: 2

      The interesting thing is that it's common to have both.

    2. Re:Not so sure about that by MarkRose · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wouldn't say it's the reverse. They're more like expressions of the same thing. With ADD, attention is side tracked in many different ways. With Asperger's Syndrome, the attention is stuck on a few special interests. That can work fantastically well if the aspie finds the topic at hand interesting, but can be fantastically awful if the topic is uninteresting. Myself, I have a great deal of trouble focusing on anything I'm not interested in and usually find my thinking returning to my special interest de jour. One trick I use when faced with a boring task is to find a clever or more optimal way to do it, since that challenge can make it more interesting. In either case, the challenge is what makes it easy for me to get in the zone and work at something for hours, but being interrupted while in the zone is frustrating and I'll usually avoid getting in the zone if I'm likely to be interrupted within an hour or two and my output will be low. I often wonder what it's like to be "normal" and to be able to get stuff done while only being half focused (not in the zone).

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  8. Re:Aspergers / Autism by Aighearach · · Score: 2

    Aspergers typically even has a distinctive gait, so it isn't as easy to claim as some non-specific "borderline autism" claim that is more likely bogus.

    And in their defense, they're still dorks either way.

  9. Re:Aspergers / Autism by Z34107 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The most over-self-diagnosed conditions on the planet, thanks to the perceived ability to explain social awkwardness and claim a special area of brilliance.

    That, and taking Aspergers frees up stat points for you to allocate elsewhere.

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  10. Pham Nuwen Would Not Approve by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe it's just me, but this reminds me of focus from Vinge's A Deepness in the Sky.

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  11. Re:Aspergers / Autism by NixieBunny · · Score: 2

    Condition? I (and a lot of leading Asperger's advocates) think it's more a type of brain than a condition. I was in the waiting room one day while my son was in an Asperger's class, and noticed that three of us dads were discussing the nature of human consciousness. Not your standard dad discussion. Point being, we're a breed apart from the 'regular' dads.

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  12. Re:Aspergers / Autism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A different type of brain would certainly be a condition of sorts.

  13. Re:Fixed that for you.. by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now, I don't like such absolutes as "never", because they're so... absolute. It's fully possible to, while following the scientific method perfectly, prove a hypothesis correct. It just takes a very particular kind of hypothesis, and a very particular kind of experiment.

    As an example, consider the hypothesis that of Foo, Bar, and Baz, Foo is the most quiggle. This hypothesis can indeed be proven correct, but only by testing every possibility, which of course results in proving other hypotheses wrong.

    As for the fields of pharmacology and medical science, your complaint of worthless research seems to be based on the assumption that only perfect knowledge is worthwhile. Quite the contrary, actually: Medical treatments can be effective even if we don't know why. The pain-relieving quality of willow bark was known 2300 years before its pharmacological mechanism was understood. Research into new treatments is very valuable, even without full understanding of the mechanisms involved. Of course such knowledge is preferred, but that's another several years of research after the initial findings.

    The only "huge issue" I see with pharmacology and medical science is that they're so intently watched by the media and "science fans" for any sign of a coming miracle cure, in the constant hunt for headlines. Any finding of anything affecting any kind of cancer cells is reported as a "potential cure". In the actual research paper, the findings are almost always stated exactly as they should be: some indications, little concrete evidence, and suggestions for further avenues of research. Other sciences are picking up this attention, as well, but still usually maintain their integrity. Electrical engineering hits the news whenever some transparent, tiny, or shiny prototype finally works. Psychologists are asked for comment when there's a serial killer running amok. Sociology has its fifteen minutes of fame when there's some new theory to explain 4chan. Disease is just constantly affecting millions of people, so it's always interesting news.

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