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Behind the Scenes: How Conflict Photographs Come To Be

First time accepted submitter benro03 writes "Airing photojournalism's dirty secret, Italian photographer Ruben Salvadori demonstrates how conflict photography is often staged by the photographers themselves. He spent a significant amount of time in East Jerusalem studying the role that photojournalists play in what the world sees. Ruben is about to graduate with dual majors for a BA in International Relations and Anthropology/Sociology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel." Some commenters on the linked story defend much of what's shown as ordinary aesthetic and editorial decisions; doubtless a parallel documentary could have been shot from a few hundred yards away with an opposite slant.

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  1. Trim your damn URLs by Pope · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do we really need "?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+PetaPixel+(PetaPixel)" at the end there, or are you getting paid for this story?

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  2. Famous Photos by OFnow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, the Famous Photo of WWII of the flag raised on Iwo Jima was staged. Twice. The second one was the one folks have seen. Nothing new here. Move along.

    1. Re:Famous Photos by ideonexus · · Score: 2

      I thought that was the case too, but the wikipedia article on the controversy paints a more complex picture. Apparently there is a video of the flag raising that clearly shows it was not staged initially, but there was a second photo that was staged, the "gung-ho shot;" however, no one tried to pass the second photo off as being anything other than a posed shot... so there's a myth that sounds scandalous, but the reality is that it was simply a misunderstanding.

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    2. Re:Famous Photos by benro03 · · Score: 2

      No nothing new at all, BUT did you watch his film? His point isn't that it's occurring but that the majority of people (and I understand the irony) don't know it's not real. Photojournalists and reporters get fired and blacklisted for creating news, so why isn't it happening here? They get paid by the piece and these are clearly faked.

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    3. Re:Famous Photos by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      You know, that does work both ways.

      By way of example, the recent "Occupy Portland" demonstrations were very public, and very much in the local (and in some cases national) media. Because there was a ton of media coverage, the Portland PD behaved in a very sensitive manner over the whole situation (there were only two arrests, and the police went out of their way to show that the arrests were for vandalism related to spray-painting a police car and someone's building or house, forget which).

      If there were no media coverage, they could pretty much behave any way they wanted to.

      This is IMHO a result of the television era... something that riot police learned the hard way back in the 1960's, when they discovered that using fire hoses and attack dogs didn't look so good on television to a national audience.

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    4. Re:Famous Photos by afidel · · Score: 2

      Yes, there was an incident with the Occupy Washington protest just the other day where a conservative journalist joined the ranks and tried to stir them up to storm the Smithsonian Air & Space museum which they were protesting based on a military drone exhibit. When he couldn't convince the larger crowd to leave their peaceful picket he and some friends forced their way into the museum then reported that it was protesters. He had the gall to tweet the fact that it was him that had entered the museum...

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  3. Simple rule of thumb by JazzHarper · · Score: 4, Informative

    All photography is staged unless the image has been captured unintentionally or accidentally.

    1. Re:Simple rule of thumb by justdiver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I was going to say that if those in the photo are unaware the picture was being taken then it isn't staged, but on second thought, the framing of the photo, the time at which the photo is taken, the angle and placement of the photo, what is cropped out or left in the frame, all of these things are left up to the photographer to decide. So yes, I would agree that even photos where the participants are unaware the picture is being taken can be called staged. The photographer is staging the photo by leaving our or including certain details.

    2. Re:Simple rule of thumb by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even when not staged there is always some bias and complexity. Take for instance the "looting" vs "finding food" photos in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The "finding food" photo showed two white people wading in chest high water with food whereas the "looting" photo showed a black man with food wading in chest high water. According to the "looting" photographer he labeled it looting because people were going into a flooded grocery store and taking things. The "finding food" photographer said people were taking food that had floated out of a flooded grocery store. In reality everyone was technically stealing food for survival but there are different perspectives.

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    3. Re:Simple rule of thumb by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 2

      No, he means staged the same way you do - just different connotations.

      No he doesn't. I define "staging" as manipulating the scene itself while he defines "staging" as part of the intentional act of taking a picture (any picture).

      The act of putting your eye into a camera's viewfinder 'stages' the scene.

      Again not what most people mean when they speak of staged photographs. Putting your eye into a camera's viewfinder is a means of framing the scene, but it certainly doesn't stage it.

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  4. Drop the dead donkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sometimes this kind of humour just gives people Ideas I guess..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ2bvR3BT_g

  5. I've seen this before by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pallywood anyone?

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    1. Re:I've seen this before by ichthus · · Score: 2

      I came here to point out the same thing. Great documentary.

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  6. Been going on for years... by bobaferret · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to frequent Medellin, Colombia in the 90's after my mother moved there to teach English. This was during the period of time where there was a large amount of violence due to Pablo Escobar and company. Lot's of bombings etc. (Side note... Bombs happen on the quarters of the Hour, thunder any other time)... We we're driving by a recently bombed, mafia owned, apt. building from night before, and noticed some of the CNN crew from our hotel in the parking lot of the building closely surrounded by about 12 people. The camera guy was on his knees. The rest of the lot was pretty much empty. A cleanup crew here or there. The reporter was on the outside of the circle directing folks around. Later that night, we happen to see the footage produced.... it was a riot... No seriously... CNN portrayed the 12 people as a massive riot of frightened locals in complete panic. They weren't even from the building.... Mafia families who pay $1,000,000 for an apt. in that building don't tend to stick around, much less dress like laborers. Nothing like being a rural mid-western teenager spending his summers in a third world country.

  7. Pictures are not that much different than words... by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Journalist observes and then writes words that try to communicate his/her understanding of the situation.

    The Photojournalist observes and then takes pictures that try to capture the essence of the situation as he/she understands it.

    If you don't want someone else interpreting and summarizing for you, then go there yourself.

    We read and view the work of journalists because we want to understand but we don't want to do all the raw data collection and reduction ourselves. To the degree that journalists exhibit biases of one sort or another, we try to chose sources that exhibit similar biases to our own such that their interpretation and analysis will likely be the same (or at least similar) to our own. When the bias is for sensationalism, that's simply not journalism.

    G.

  8. Should be obvious by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cameras lie. Photography is an artform and its basically impossible to create an objective photograph.

    • Even if we make the usual assumptions for photojournalists (they don't montage photos, they don't get too fancy in the darkroom...
    • There's a frame. You can't see the action around a frame in context, wether this context is a guy off camera with a gun, or a guy signing a treaty 40 years ago.
    • The lens has selective focus, that its lens always distorts the space that's photographed. Two subjects who appear quite close might in fact be rather far away. People who appear to be able to see each other may not actually have a vantage on each other in the actual space.
    • Useable news photographs require acceptable lighting conditions. You can't shoot a night battle with a flash.
    • If the photographer didn't communicate with the subject, he probably wouldn't have any photographs that actually demonstrated the conflict.

    What do you want? Do you want to feel like you're there, experiencing the action? If that's the case, then the photographer is pretty much going to have to stage everything, because real conflicts generally don't yield photogenic angles, or give the photographer a way of capturing both sides in a way that makes the conflict "real" from the perspective of someone looking at the pictures. Real war footage is boring as hell, it doesn't remotely capture the experience of being there, and the only way you can stand it or make any sense of it is with aggressive editing and narration, which has the potential to recontextualize everything.

    Do you want the truth? All the photographer can tell you is what he saw, and if he only gives you the photos he took. Reporting is epistolary: somebody saw something, they are now telling you about it, you're relying on their account. Photographs are part of their account, they are not separate, "real" things that are somehow more reliable than someone's testimony.

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  9. Re:Pictures are not that much different than words by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    There is a huge difference between summarizing and slanting.

    If you have some sort of positive evidence of this happening you absolutely should bring it up. The problem here is that the TFA author doesn't, he just sees photographers lining up shots, and talking to the subjects, and makes the leap that this is, perforce, distortion. I just don't think he understands how photography works.

    I want the whole story so I can draw my own conclusions and not just the story the reporter/photographer wants me to see.

    If the conflict is something like Israel/Palestine, taking place over 60 years in a country thousands of miles away, involving entire nations of people, of whom you've maybe only met two or three representatives, you're simply not going to be able to come to a useful conclusion on the basis of newspaper columns and photos. An unfortunate, and much more real, problem with mass news media is that it convinces you it can supply you with the information required to bring you to a good conclusion, simply by watching enough TV and reading enough news, when it really can't.

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  10. Sometimes it is more than just a picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sometimes there's a full blown Hollywood style production done for journalists.
    Google the term "Pallywood"
    I'll give you an example: http://youtu.be/t_B1H-1opys?t=4m15s

  11. Re:Pictures are not that much different than words by tincho_uy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you want a more comprehensive view supporting this guy's work, check out Pallywood. You'll see it's all staged.

  12. Re:Says virtually nothing. by fruitbane · · Score: 2

    No, the author of the video is doing no such thing. The article author was adding unnecessary spin. The video author was pointing out that many "action" shots are posed (not necessarily by the photographer). Because there are photographers there the individuals involved put on a show, even when not much was going on. The video author/photographer's point was that photographers in many conflict areas sometimes are in the middle of legitimate moments of high drama, but often there is also low drama staged for their benefit. The mere presence of a cadre of professional-looking photographers causes the observed to undertake a behavioral change which can, in many cases, result in photos that look like they (the photographed) are engaged in some confrontational situation, when really they are just waiting around and chest thumping, hoping for something to happen. Thus, unsuccessful riots by a very few individuals result in stunning pictures that suggest much more in the minds of readers and viewers. The photographers and rioters both must have something to do in the down time between the moments of high drama, I suppose.

    Further, he states in the video quite clearly that he wants people to realize that these photographs are taken by people with agendas, participating in a process, taking pictures of people with agendas, and that sometimes those agendas come together in ways that create images of action and conflict which don't really exist in that moment and in that time, and the public need to be aware that photographers influence situations by their presence and that things occur off-frame; that photo framing may radically alter a photo's context thus altering the images as conveyed.

    In the photo journalism industry this is not news, but for the public who often take images at face value this rare glimpse of things can offer quite a disconnect. It can be shocking to be reminded to view things with an overly critical eye, and I think the photo journalism industry would have to tighten things up a bit if the public at large paid more attention to and was, on the whole, more critical of these kinds of issues.

  13. It's really amazing how little war footage thereis by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 2

    I know the combatants have other things on their minds but you'd think an army would want to record things to improve itself. Also that footage could be used to vindicate yourself on the world stage.

  14. A moral dilemma by blue_teeth · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here's a dilemma for you... With all your honor and dignity what would you do? This test only has one question, but it's a very important one.

    Please don't answer it without giving it some serious thought. By giving an honest answer you will be able to test where you stand morally.

    The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation, where you will have to make a decision one way or the other. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please scroll down slowly and consider each line - this is important for the test to work accurately.

    You're in Florida...In Miami, to be exact. There is great chaos going on around you, caused by a hurricane and severe floods. There are huge masses of water all over you. You are a CNN photographer and you are in the middle of this great disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot very impressive photos. There are houses and people floating around you, disappearing into the water. Nature is showing all its destructive power and is ripping everything away with it.

    Suddenly you see a man in the water, he is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken away by the masses of water and mud. You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar.

    Suddenly you know who it is -- it's George W. Bush!

    At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him away, forever. You have two options. You can save him or you can take the best photo of your life. So you can save the life of George W. Bush, or you can shoot a Pulitzer prize winning photo, a unique photo displaying the death of one of the world's most powerful men.

    And here's the question (please give an honest answer):

    Would you select color film, or rather go with the simplicity of classic black and white?

  15. Re:Says virtually nothing. by Christoph · · Score: 2

    Agreed. Any critics should take their camera and fly to the next hot spot and take their own photos...nothing to stop you, other than not wanting to risk your own blood and treasure, and probably come home empty handed because it's damn hard work, including getting access to timely shots.

    Would you like pictures of the rebels when they grab Gaddafi? It would make a great photo. Should you be a cold, dismissive jerk to the rebels and then ask them to take you with when they go to grab him?

    When a photographer alters or stages their photos, they get fired. They compete for who gets access to the most timely, dangerous, subjects. War photographers DIE doing their job. Tim Hetherington (who directed the documentary "Restrepo") was killed in Libya recently. Kevin Carter, famous for the famine photo of starving toddler with a vulture landed nearby, committed suicide at age 33, leaving a note that said:

    "I am depressed ... without phone ... money for rent ... I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings and corpses and anger and pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners ..."

    A convoy of journalist-observers with a candidate en route to register for an election was massacred by the local warlord in the Philippines in 2009. The details are despicable. The Magindanao victims able to be identified are:
    Alejandro "Bong" Reblando
    Henry Araneta,
    Napoleon “Nap” Salaysay
    Bartolome “Bart” Maravilla
    Jhoy Dojay
    Andy Teodoro
    Ian Subang
    Leah Dalmacio
    Gina Dela Cruz
    Maritess Cablitas
    Neneng Montano
    Victor Nuñez
    McDelbert "Macmac" Arriola
    Jolito Evardo
    Daniel Tiamson
    Reynaldo Momay
    Rey Merisco
    Ronnie Perante
    Jun Legarta
    Val Cachuela
    Santos "Jun" Gatchalian
    Joel Parcon
    Noel Decena
    John Caniba
    Art Betia
    Ranie Razon
    Archie Ace David
    Fernanado "Ferdz" Mendoza

    To deride conflict photographers takes a lot of nerve if you haven't done it yourself.

  16. Re:Says virtually nothing. by grcumb · · Score: 2

    Oh for fuck's sake, you know why the photographers laugh and joke with the protesters? It's so they don't get their heads kicked in when people start to panic, and so the protesters don't think they're undercover cops recording the events. Yes, photography is subjective - that's kind of the point. But try to bear in mind that the camera recording the photographers is subjective, too.

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  17. STORY IS ISRAELI PROPAGANDA by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2

    Message: "There is no occupation brutality. This is staged violence by unethical 'journalists' looking for a story".

    Maybe the "scholarship" would have more credibility from a University outside of Israel?

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  18. Re:Pictures are not that much different than words by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    I've seen Pallywood -- for one, Pallywood was about Palestinian journalists, which TFA isn't about, and second, to be honest I didn't find a lot of the video evidence in Pallywood to be particularly convincing, and it commits a lot of the errors, decontextualization with narration, suspicious sourcing, editorializing, that it accuses news agencies of committing.

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  19. Re:Pictures are not that much different than words by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    The problem is that people have the idea that photojournalists are dodging gunfire to take shots as they happen.

    "The journalist wasn't doing what I see journalists in movies do, therefore what he's reporting didn't happen."

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  20. Not news by xenobyte · · Score: 3, Informative

    Back in 2006 a number of scandals surfaced during the Israeli-Lebanese conflict. The initial incident was later nicknamed "Reutersgate" because one very obviously photoshopped picture distributed through Reuters that landed on front pages all over the world led to an investigation by Reuters that revealed almost a thousand similar pictures from a number of "well-reputed" freelance photographers, and they were subsequently 'fired' by Reuters and their contributions removed from the archives.

    Then the scandal spread. Additional pictures from Reuters were brought into question, as well as pictures from other agencies, especially Associated Post. Not only were these pictures fairly obviously staged; they were staged Hollywood-style, complete with fake blood, staged ruins, actors and so on. Characters like "The World's Unluckiest Mom", "The Dead Son", "The Omnipresent Victim" and most legendary of all: "Green Helmet Guy" filled pictures reputedly from various places all over Lebanon (but in reality shot in more or less the same place). We saw the same grieving mother with or near a dead-looking child (also often the same) again and again, the same wounded civilians, the same burned-out cars, and always the same rescue party prominently featuring the legendary Green Helmet Guy. Then a series of pictures, obviously not meant for public distribution surfaced, showing the characters having a lunch break in the shade of a building. We see the 'dead child' play and later drink a soda.We see Green Helmet Guy in conversation with The Omnipresent Victim (obviously unharmed of course) and so on. Assuming all pictures featuring these characters are faked/staged, this fauxtography scandal involved thousands of pictures. Later extremely well-reputed photographers from BBC also appears to have engaged in this fakery.

    Googling pictures with these tags will yield you hundreds of samples of these staged pictures, all with the obvious intent of showing how cruel and evil Israel were. As Hizbollah in Lebanon (thought to be behind this little troupe of actors) found a need for this, it is obvious that reality didn't offer anything similar so it had to be staged for the proper effect on the world audience.

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