Slashdot Mirror


Apple's Siri As Revolutionary As the Mac?

hype7 writes "The Harvard Business Review is running an article on Siri, the speech recognition technology inside the new iPhone. They make the case that Siri's use of artificial intelligence and speech recognition is going to change the way we interact with machines. From the article: 'The advantage of using speech over other interaction paradigms is that we have honed its use over thousands of years. It is entirely natural for us to talk to one another. Talking is one of the first things we learn how to do as children. It's second nature for us to ask a colleague or a friend a question and for them to answer the same way. Being able to talk to a phone like it's a personal assistant is something that people are going to get very used to, very quickly. It's a much more natural approach than using a mouse on a desktop. And I highly doubt the impact is going to stop at phones.'"

10 of 692 comments (clear)

  1. Re:Purely out of curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Voice Actions, it works exactly the same. Maps, Nav, post updates to social, schedules reminders/ calendars. send email / sms. Its been there since the start of 2.3
    Except it doesn't have a fancy interface . it just shows a big microphone icon on the screen and lights up green when you talk

  2. Re:Purely out of curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Android's 'Voice Actions' can only understand a predefined set of phrases and keywords. Siri can understand very natural language, and even follow context. Siri is far more advanced. But Google has some of the best engineers on the planet. A nice upgrade for Voice Actions will likely come sooner than later.

  3. Re:Purely out of curiosity by James+Carnley · · Score: 5, Informative

    You don't have to manually launch anything.

    Just start voice search and say "Navigate to McDonalds" and it will launch your navigation app and plot a course to McDonalds for you.

    This also works with your other example: "Text Bob Dole Hey man" will launch your messaging app and put "Hey man" in the message.

    It's pretty neat once you start using it a lot.

  4. Re:Purely out of curiosity by Drakino · · Score: 5, Informative

    (Reply written before most other posts, was distracted by work, going to post anyhow even with some now redundant info. Hope it helps.)

    Android's voice recognition is mostly a search input box, driven by voice instead of text. It's pretty clever how Google built the system, they used voice input from the old GOOG411 number to help adapt it to different languages and accents. For the most part though, it will parse what you say and do the equivalent of "I'm Feeling Lucky" on google.com.

    It also does dictation for typing in notes, or other apps. Basically anywhere the keyboard will appear, voice can be used as a dictation input.

    Siri is a step beyond what Google offers, due to the conversational style of input vs just basic voice commands/dictation. You can say "Joanne Moore is my mother" to Siri once. Later, saying "Text Mom that I'll be late for dinner", and Siri remembers mom = Joanne Moore, or whoever. This just scratches the surface, the other power of Siri is the capability to understand questions like "Do I need a raincoat today?". It turns that into a search of the weather at the current location, scanning the days forecast for the possibility of rain. A followup of "what about Saturday?" would cause Siri to recognize this is a followup request, and it would link it to the previous weather query. The logic is in the Siri system, not in a search engine being queried. Minor detail, and either approach can work.

    Google can improve their services on Android by improving what Google.com does, and this benefitting web users as well. For Apple, they have to decide what services to tie into. Many queries in Siri are farmed out to Wolfram Alpha. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_(software) has more info on other services it integrates with to try and answer questions. If none of those work, it defaults to running a web search similar to Android.

  5. Re:Purely out of curiosity by timeOday · · Score: 5, Informative

    The real issue with it is how much of a dork you look like talking to your phone.

    According to the writeup on wired (reprinted at cnn), they already addressed that problem by having you hold the phone to your ear when talking to it (instead of at arms length as when typing into it) to make it look normal.

    (I would imagine this was also done to improve the quality of speech recognition by putting the microphone closer to your mouth.)

  6. Re:Inside? by MBoffin · · Score: 5, Informative

    The phone does it.

    Incorrect. It's done in the cloud, just like Android's implementation. You need a data connection for it to work. Apple stated this in the introductory announcement.

  7. Re:MIght as well be by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Really, is Apple going to be the only company in the world that gets human interaction? It's staggering how much they've advanced society on their own and all their profound technical achievements

    I guess that you are not aware that Apple purchased the company that made Siri and then immediately stopped the development of the Blackberry and Android versions. They basically did a Microsoft.

    Actually, that is not fair - you could say they did an Apple. The question of whether Siri is a revolutionary as the Mac is telling as both of these products were based on groundwork made by other companies. This is not to say that Apple didn't add the pizzazz to them though, but even those pizzazz elements can be found elsewhere (so many of iOS's user interface ideas that people love can be found in other people's work). Apple's great trait is that they can commercialize the ideas of others. Want another example:

    Maybe learn painting or drawing or something. Maybe start liking turtles. (remember Apple LOGO??)

    Logo was created in 1967 - 15 years before Apple Logo came on the scene. Did you think that Apple invented it?

  8. Re:Purely out of curiosity by iamhassi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh boy, some people never learn. Android voice functions is literary the same things that has been in the archaic nokia phones from back in the day.

    Voice Actions for Android is almost identical to Siri (another example). The iPhone actually had Siri before Voice Actions came out for Android, only difference is now Siri is built into the 4S and Apple bought Siri and removed it from the App Store and made it only for the 4S :( That's a pretty jerk thing for apple to do

    --
    my karma will be here long after I'm gone
  9. Re:MIght as well be by Cinder6 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd never actually looked at the raw data before, so I decided to based on your post. And...yeah, that's pretty interesting.

    Anyone interested... http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/financials/financials.asp?ticker=RIM:CN

    --
    If you can't convince them, convict them.
  10. Re:Some truth about iProducts by Karlt1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    No. Maybe in smartphones, but they are a minority of the market. There is a whole world beyond the 1st world and nobody there can afford a smartphone yet. It is a volume business but there is a lot of profit there in churning out cheap phones by the container.

    Not smartphones, all phones....

    http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/29/apple-captured-two-thirds-of-available-mobile-phone-profits-in-q2/

    There is not much profit in $30 phones -- ask Nokia

    And who the fsck cares about profits unless you are an Apple shareholder,

    The claim was that Apple was "losing". How is a profit seeking entity losing when it makes 2 out of every $3 in the industry?

      units moved are what counts for everyone else. Developers don't give a crap how much Apple is making, they want to know how many potential customers they have to justify developing for the platform to judge how much THEY stand to make.

    Developers care about the people who are willing to buy stuff. The Apple app store generates over 17x the revenue of the Android app market.

    http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/21/861-5-percent-growth-android-puny/

    Most users don't really care how much Apple is making in profit except if they learn Apple makes 50 juicy points it might piss some off while some fanboys like yourself seem to get off on how hard Apple is screwing you.

    Well it doesn't matter what "most users care about". A statement was made, I refuted it with facts.

    I paid $200 for a $700 iPhone 4 under contract. A high-end Android user paid the same $200 for a $450 phone. We are both paying the same monthly bill. Why do I care that the carrier paid a higher subsidy to Apple than the Android manufacturer?

    And in volume of Smartphones Apple is at 18% and falling fast into their 5-10% market niche they have stayed within on the desktop since the 1980s.

    If by falling fast, you mean holding steady....

    Google just announce 190 Million Android devices sold during their quarterly report today. Apple just announced 220 million iOS devices sold during the iPhone 4S launch.

    Give it another year and they will probably be falling fast in tablets until they hit boutique luxury good territory. Because that is what Apple is, a premium brand experience. The only reason developers still care about iOS is they (rightly it appears) assume anyone who can afford an iProduct has enough disposable income to afford to pay for lots of apps so while in absolute percentage of potential customers they may be shrinking, they rakeoff per customer is high enough to justify porting.

    Didn't you just say that developers care about units sold? So which is it? Do developers care about units sold are the number of people who actually have money to buy stuff?