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SF Authors Predict Computing's Future

Esther Schindler writes "'Over the past century a lot of science fiction has been published, showcasing a lot of wild ideas, and if you sit enough authors at enough typewriters or word processors, somebody is bound to get a few things right. Science fiction's greater influence, though, goes beyond whether or not the authors can make a good guess,' writes Kevin J. Anderson in Science Fiction's Take on the Future of Computers: Visionaries and Imaginaries. 'Rather than predicting the future, the SF genre is much better at inspiring the future. Visionaries read or see cool ideas in their favorite SF books or films, then decide how to make it a reality.' So Anderson assembled a set of visionaries, and asked them where they thought computing is headed: Mike Resnick, Robert J. Sawyer, Greg Bear, Michael A. Stackpole, Dr. Gregory Benford, and Christopher Paolini gaze into their crystal balls. 'Forget artificial intelligence. The future of computing is artificial consciousness, and it will be here within 20 years, and maybe much sooner than that,' says Sawyer. 'Our future wired world will have smart, wireless robots — gofers in hospitals, security guards with IR vision at night, lawn mowers, etc. We ourselves will be wired, with devices and embedded sensors taking in data and giving it out — a two way street,' contributes Benford."

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  1. Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Quality science fiction authors (not the pulp hacks), aren't TRYING to predict the future. They know better than anyone that's a pointless pursuit. Real science fiction writers, are merely using a genre setting to comment on the PRESENT, and perhaps on the human condition in general. Anyone who seriously thinks they can predict the future is a fucking retard. In the past, every time someone has tried they were laughably off. Even when someone does occasionally luck onto to getting some small thing right, like a specific piece of technology, they usually screw up its context and use in some fundamental way, or they make some assumption that turns out to be untrue (Arthur Clarke assuming that NASA would continue on with Apollo-level funding for example). No serious writer is arrogant enough to think their predictions are actually going to come true. They're literary devices, not prognostications.

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    1. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by decipher_saint · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Real Sci-Fi is about asking "what if", period.

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    2. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by Ihmhi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Exactly, and it applies to Science Fiction T.V. shows as well.

      For instance, Star Trek answers an important philosophical question: "What if we gave a starship command to a man with a bigger sex drive than an entire class of high school seniors?"

    3. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by vlm · · Score: 2

      For instance, Star Trek answers an important philosophical question: "What if we gave a starship command to a man with a bigger sex drive than an entire class of high school seniors?"

      Yeah "ST:Voyager" really cleared up that question.

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    4. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by V!NCENT · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Explain this:
      -Star Trek tablet pc [check];
      -Star Trek talk to a computer (Apple's new talk to iPhone 4S) [check];
      -Star Trek brain implants (in mice) [check];
      -Back to the Future Nike shoes [check];
      -Those lenses that can read light focussed realy close to you [check];
      -Hitchhikers Gide to the Galaxy device (Wikipedia on your smartphone) [check];
      -Self-driving cars in a lot of movies (we have working prototypes) [check];
      -Star Wars holographic displays (for some coorporations) [check];
      -Cold fusion effect (but then without the cold fusion) [allmost check];
      -Army drones (recently on Slashdot) [check];
      -What did I miss?

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    5. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by Twinbee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Okay, I'll give you a few predictions right now, and we'll see if I'm a nutter:

      1: We'll colonize and even explore space (because if we don't get off this rock, we're as good as dead).

      2: We'll have something much closer to true virtual reality devices and use them willingly (a bit obvious I suppose)

      3: Not everyone will go the cyborg route. In fact, only a few may, because of the 'ick' format that many people will detest. Star Trek agrees here (and no, Geordi La Forge doesn't count).

      4: At some point, we'll have sky cars. We'll need better batteries, and good AI for stability and non-crashability, but we'll get there (eventually, we'll even be able to drive them for fun (with the safety mechanisms kicking in if we make a wrong move).

      5: (Hot) fusion will become viable at some stage too (we could really do with the energy to feed our sky cars etc. with.)

      6: And the big one; fewer and fewer people will have traditional jobs, letting the robots/computers do the admin / manual work for them. Instead, we'll be exploring, learning, creating, having fun, or socializing (eventually mankind will realize that higher unemployment is a good thing, and not a bad)
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      7: There will be a universal currency, universal language, and universal OS (don't worry, not necessarily Windows, MacOS, or Linux) at some point which most (>99%) can and will use. It'll take a while, and will probably happen after most people stop working, but at some point, we will all agree to get along (traveling to outer space, and to the stars may add some confusion to this point however).

      I can guarantee that at least six of those things will happen. Perhaps not all in our lifetime though.

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    6. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by epine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Rubbish, if you expand your horizons wider than oracles of ticker tape or Back to the Future parlour tricks.

      There have been some pretty profound visionaries over the centuries. Jules Verne, da Vinci, Richard Feynman (There's Plenty of Room at the Bottom), Claude Shannon, Freeman Dyson (space chickens), Charles Babbage, Leibniz, William Gibson (cyberspace), Marshall McLuhan (global village), Archimedes if you could get him to talk. These are not men immortalized for aping Minority Report.

      I shake my head at all these Margulis extropians, who think we're headed for post-sexual merger with mechanoid symbiotes, the under-skin super suit. Which would be cool if I had any clue what the 90% of world's population, the unemployed, will be doing with all that time.

      The future is a moving target. Set your sights accordingly, and recognize transcendent wisdom bereft of gadgets.

    7. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by idontgno · · Score: 3, Interesting

      1: We'll colonize and even explore space (because if we don't get off this rock, we're as good as dead).

      Tens of millions of dead smokers proves that the rationale is not valid, but tens of millions of dead natives in colonized areas proves your basic prediction is sound, if only for other reasons.

      2: We'll have something much closer to true virtual reality devices and use them willingly (a bit obvious I suppose)

      I'd debate this more extensively, but my guild just issued its mass invite for our weekly Firelands raid, so I have to go.

      3: Not everyone will go the cyborg route. In fact, only a few may, because of the 'ick' format that many people will detest. Star Trek agrees here (and no, Geordi La Forge doesn't count).

      Frankly, most people want to "look normal". Hence, even the most innocuous "prosthetics"--eyeglasses--have a zero-cosmetic-impact alternative (contact lenses). No bet there.

      4: At some point, we'll have sky cars. We'll need better batteries, and good AI for stability and non-crashability, but we'll get there (eventually, we'll even be able to drive them for fun (with the safety mechanisms kicking in if we make a wrong move).

      There are other implications, too. Does privacy extend to the airspace above your house? Otherwise your neighbors could just hover over your house to watch your comings and goings. And yeah, if the technology becomes cheap enough and sufficiently different than conventional aviation (i.e., not needing specialty training and licensing), then it'll have some ugly public safety impacts. But when cars were new a century ago, they'd have been surprised and horrified at the quarter million casualties a year car accidents cause.

      5: (Hot) fusion will become viable at some stage too (we could really do with the energy to feed our sky cars etc. with.)

      It's happening now. Too bad we're not so good at collecting and distributing that energy, considering it already travels 99.99993% of the way here by itself.

      6: And the big one; fewer and fewer people will have traditional jobs, letting the robots/computers do the admin / manual work for them. Instead, we'll be exploring, learning, creating, having fun, or socializing (eventually mankind will realize that higher unemployment is a good thing, and not a bad)

      Alas, having the machines do all the work liberates the working man to abject poverty and crime or starvation. Economies function on scarcity, and if you don't have natural scarcity, you invent artificial scarcity. The wealth of the "haves" tends to increase towards 100% of total value of the economy, and the wealth of the "have-nots" decreases towards 0. The costs of production are already a non-factor in a lot of the economy, but that hasn't made the important things zero-cost for the consumer.

      7: There will be a universal currency, universal language, and universal OS (don't worry, not necessarily Windows, MacOS, or Linux) at some point which most (>99%) can and will use. It'll take a while, and will probably happen after most people stop working, but at some point, we will all agree to get along (traveling to outer space, and to the stars may add some confusion to this point however).

      In many ways, we're almost already there. What percentage of the world's nations and economies has a working understanding of English and access to some basically-interoperable computer networking system? If you believe in the curse of the Tower of Babel, you might be inclined to argue that humanity is overcoming the confounding of languages and is again a viable candidate to ascend to the heavens.

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    8. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by Antisyzygy · · Score: 2

      The shortsightedness of people like you is astounding. You assume basically no technological innovations will occur making at least near-Earth space economically feasible. Its already theoretically possible to make a space elevator with materials on Earth, thus drastically decreasing the cost of getting into orbit. Futhermore, there will be advances in propulsion, advances in robotics, nanotechnology etc. all making it possible to construct things remotely from a small package. All of this technology already has uses on Earth, and are being actively sought after for medicine, military, and manufacturing. Humans colonizing space is an inevitability assuming we don't go extinct first. It will start with orbital manufacturing facilities used to help mine asteroids or to maintain ships and construct them for getting He3 from the Moon as well as the occasional probe sent out for space missions that will build its own infrastructure on the planet/moon it lands on so as to prolong missions. We will probably have space elevators for transporting goods to/from orbit, so even though the materials mined from asteroids may be heavy and hard to get here, the elevators make it feasible. Im not saying this won't be mostly a robotic presence in space, but humans will still need to travel out there to set shit up or fix failures a machine can't, or they will just want to go. Its possible at that point humans will be part or mostly machine. Maybe in 1000 years what I say will come true, but it will happen. Within 2000 years I have no doubt there will be scientific expeditions to various outer planets/moons with people living there in shifts. Its not hard to imagine that after a few millenia the first interstellar trip takes place, after all there are already theories for how one could travel FTL, or we could just prolong our lives so it doesn't matter anymore. Once again, my statements are predicated on the fact that human beings don't go extinct first. More likely than not, we will eventually, but lets hope we have 2000 years left. It would drastically increase our odds of not going extinct in the first place.

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    9. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by TClevenger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even when someone does occasionally luck onto to getting some small thing right, like a specific piece of technology, they usually screw up its context and use in some fundamental way, or they make some assumption that turns out to be untrue (Arthur Clarke assuming that NASA would continue on with Apollo-level funding for example).

      Or Asimov predicting that robots/androids would be nearly human-like in their behavior and complexity at the same time that computers still filled whole buildings and would need specially trained people to translate instructions into code and readouts from ticker tape.

    10. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In many ways, we're almost already there. What percentage of the world's nations and economies has a working understanding of English and access to some basically-interoperable computer networking system?

      Working knowledge of English? Nowhere near universal, even in first-world economies. Long before we get universal adoption of any single language we'll have machines that can recognize/voice every known language and translate to/from the user's language and we will have obviated the need for any one language to take over.

    11. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by PCM2 · · Score: 2

      It seems to me that a lot of science fiction and future predictions posit the idea that everything will converge toward a single something. I believe this is mostly because the idea of "one" is easy for everybody to get their heads around. If I predicted that the world would eventually settle down to about nine different languages, everyone would go, "Huh? Why nine?" But nine seems just as likely a number to me as one. Why only one?

      In fact, I'd argue that the main reason we haven't seen human society hurtling towards convergence in all sorts of areas is because diversity is actually useful. Latin is a dead language -- dead, dead, dead. And that's why scientists use it every day. Some languages work better for certain kinds of poetry and song lyrics than others. Some languages adapt better to diverse populations and adopt foreign words more rapidly (English, for example).

      I don't think anyone, anywhere is really crying, "My God, when will all these languages just go away?" -- with the possible exception of utopian thinkers and science fiction writers, because "one universal language" sounds really cool and utopian. Utopian stuff seldom sounds particularly likely to me, though.

      To tell the truth, erasing the combined wealth of human language and culture in favor of one single language doesn't sound at all like the kind of thing that would happen organically over time. It sounds more like something that a whole lot of people would need to actively try to do on purpose. I think maybe one of the last examples of someone actively trying to do it would be in Cambodia in the 1970s. If you take my meaning.

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    12. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Funny

      I doubt if the Vegans, Sirians and Centaurans want to learn our languages).

      The Vegans already speak our languages, and they use them to constantly tell us how evil and wrong we are for eating meat and other animal products.

    13. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      Also remember that technology itself is accelerating exponentially. Look at the amount of change that has occurred over the last 10 years, Baby Boomers can tell you that more has happened in the last 10 years than perhaps the last 30 before it

      We now have phones with nice colourful screens. And we can post 24/7 on twitter and facebook. Big fucking deal.

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    14. Re:Real scifi isn't about predicting the future by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2

      "Or Asimov predicting that robots/androids would be nearly human-like in their behavior and complexity at the same time that computers still filled whole buildings and would need specially trained people to translate instructions into code and readouts from ticker tape."

      Good ironic catch.

      I've been rereading some of "I, Robot" aloud to my kid, and what is interesting is that Isaac Asimov suggested robots would understand speech before they were able to talk, whereas things have gone the other way around, it's much easier to get a computer to say things than to get it to understand things. So, for example, Robby the robot is very human in its ability to understand whatever a kid says, and to mime gestures and such, but can't say anything, and the only robot that can talk is the size of a room and does not do it well.

      Anyway, it's an example of how we can be right about some things and wrong about others. Ultimately, Isaac Asimov does start to explore deep issues of what it means to be "human" and further, what it means to take care of someone else without destroying their identity as self-actualizing (as his robots begin to fade away).

      I do think Isaac Asimov foresaw the economic problems posed by robotics in a capitalist society, like Marshall Brain has:
      http://marshallbrain.com/robotic-nation.htm
      http://marshallbrain.com/robots-in-2015.htm
      http://marshallbrain.com/robotic-freedom.htm
      http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

      I can wonder if he might have written different stuff (robots being banned on Earth to preserve jobs) if he had grown up in a more communist/socialist system?

      But, there are solutions for capitalism besides banning robots, such as a "basic income", like I talk about at my site and elsewhere:
      http://www.pdfernhout.net/
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vK-M_e0JoY
      http://knol.google.com/k/beyond-a-jobless-recovery

      There is a picture of me on my site with a robot that I presented at the Albert Einstein Science Centennial, where Isaac Asimov gave a talk and later called me a "rotten kid" after I told him about "The Golden Age of the 70s". :-)

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  2. The authors by Dyinobal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ya I've never heard of most these authors but the article lost all credibility when they said 'Christopher Paolini' was on their list. He isn't a science fiction writer he writes fantasy and not even good fantasy at that. Why is he even there?

    1. Re:The authors by RyuMaou · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I was right there with you. Also, how could they leave off Vernor Vinge? I don't understand how "...it seemed appropriate to wrap up these ideas by asking one of the world’s bestselling fantasy writers, Christopher Paolini, author of the Inheritance Cycle (Eragon, Eldest, Brisingr, and Inheritance), to offer his predictions." when they're talking about *science*, but they didn't seem to be aware of Vinge, who's a computer science professor and wrote Rainbow's End which hinges on advances in computer technology?

      Crazy!

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    2. Re:The authors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The fact that Mr. Clarke dreamt up geosynchronous satellites means he helped build the future, not predict it.

    3. Re:The authors by B1oodAnge1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Lord of the Rings is Historical Fiction.

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  3. SF by Cyko_01 · · Score: 2

    was I the only one who thought "SourceForge" before thinking "SciFi"?

    1. Re:SF by Mitchell314 · · Score: 2, Funny

      As long as you didn't think "SyFy", you're fine. :P

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  4. Sure by Sigvatr · · Score: 2

    I've learnt over the years to completely ignore any predictions made on a time based framework. They are just pulling that number out of their ass. They haven't performed intense and complicated calculations to determine when such and such is going to come out, and how. The fact of the matter is that no one knows.

  5. 20 years ago was 1991. by blair1q · · Score: 2

    20 years ago it was 1991.

    Except for the web, which was not much more than a hypertext system at the time, computing really hasn't changed. X, Windows, and the Mac were old technology by then. But what's much newer than them now?

    Computering has gotten faster, smaller, prettier, and an ungodly bankload cheaper.

    But most of us (here) are still writing scripts in text to get useful things done.

    Does Siri code in Python? That could be a game-changer.

  6. Oblig. by xstonedogx · · Score: 3, Insightful
  7. Re:I predict... by kryliss · · Score: 2

    "Hello... You're in a Johnny Cab. Destination please."

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  8. AI by Animats · · Score: 2

    I've been waiting for strong AI for decades. Progress has been very slow. (It was really slow during the "AI Winter", after expert systems turned out to be a dud.) But it's picking up, what with all the effort in statistical machine learning.

    The big difference this time is commercial applications. Until about 10 years or so, the commercial value of AI was tiny. Now, serious money goes into it and profits result. This makes the technology self-supporting and growing, rather than dependent on research funding. A big chunk of what Google does now involves machine learning. Machine translation is getting to be reasonably good. A lot of industrial stuff that few people see has more self-adjusting capability than it used to. Machines that move around in the real world by themselves and get stuff done are starting to work, and they're getting better each year.

    There's a lot of noise about "conciousness", but once we get AI into the low end of the mammal range, moving up may not be that tough. All the mammals have roughly the same DNA, brain components and structure, after all.

    Once machines get anywhere near human intelligence, they'll go way past it, of course. Computers scale up and network far better than biology does.

  9. The hand held pocket calculator ... by scharkalvin · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the first of the Foundation series novels Isaac Asimov predicted the pocket calculator. It was used by Hari Seldon.

  10. Re:Virtualization and augmentation by honestmonkey · · Score: 2

    Its about as useful as a swiss army chainsaw, or maybe a robotic remote controlled combination potato peeler / ice cream machine.

    I have one of those, and it makes the best potato peel ice cream you'll find. Can't get that at Cold Stone (well, any more, that is, it was a limited time thing).

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  11. Should Have Included David Gerrold by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2

    David Gerrold is the most forward looking SF author that I've ever met.

    He started writing on the cutting edge technology of the day: the IBM Selectric typewriter.

    He was looking for someone to build him a full word processor years before anyone else had even heard of the term and knew exactly what it needed to be.

    His most far reaching idea that is almost in reach now was in a story he easily wrote 30 or so years ago where you carried a small object with you that would slot into any computer of its futuristic day and completely remap the keyboard and system to your own language.

    Extrapolating that, my prediction (not that anybody cares) is that the future is a wearable computer that you have with yourself always, that is powerful enough for any normal task, and that can be plugged into more powerful systems with big screens and keyboards for specific tasks. The cell phone of today is within shouting distance of this, once we can get something like a wearable heads-up display and a better virtual or portable keyboard, or truly accurate voice recognition to at least the level of an 11-year-old human.

    Of course, legally we have to make cell phones not searchable without a warrant. Or include such strong cryptography that they become unsearchable regardless of the warrant.

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  12. Here's the future of computing by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    More gimmicky consumer devices, less ownership, control, and privacy.

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