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Britain's Broadband Censors: a Bunch of Students

nk497 writes "British ISPs have been told by the government to offer their customers parental control systems to block content like gambling sites and pornography, but the McAfee system used by BT and Sky leaves the tough censoring decisions to a small group of barely-trained students. While much of the categorization work is done using an automated system, decisions on whether porn is 'hardcore' or merely 'erotica,' or whether a page contains hate speech, is left to a team of five to ten people with a day of training — and the job is apparently popular with students. McAfee doesn't publish the list of sites it hands to ISPs to block, making it difficult to see if your own site has been misclassified."

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  1. Of course it doesn't hand the list out by Fluffeh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Would you want work done by a bunch of students with a single day of training to be up for review?

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    1. Re:Of course it doesn't hand the list out by sir_eccles · · Score: 5, Funny

      Knowing how lazy students are, they probably just copied the list off someone else.

    2. Re:Of course it doesn't hand the list out by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Knowing corporations this sounds like the perfect set up for, "it's the new guy's fault". A system purposefully built to allow 'er' censorship of anti-BT web sites, of non-corporate politics web sites, of competing web-sites. All contract positions easy to blame and terminate and pretend many web sites were not taken out on purpose.

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  2. Of course by Hentes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shifting through and categorizing thousands of pages a day requires cheap untrained workforce.

    1. Re:Of course by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah. Stop a minute to consider the sheer level of evil genius here. They have a government mandate to pay college students to look at porn. It's like Lex Luthor paid Machiavelli to come up with a business plan.

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  3. In the interests of inflammatory discourse.... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is my duty to point out that "Taliban" is Persian for "Students".

  4. At least... by justin12345 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, at least no one saw that one coming. No one could ever have predicted that a government mandate issued to private company would wind up being sourced to the cheapest possible labor.

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  5. Does it matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does it matter if it's a group of students or a group of politicians? or a group of little old ladies? or a group of aliens from Betelgeuse?

    In all seriousness, it doesn't matter *who* does the censoring, they'll always get it wrong. Only the end viewer requesting the page can decide if something is "hardcore" or merely "erotica". Nobody can decide what standards are acceptable to anyone else.

  6. url lookups by modestgeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    I could care less who is doing the categorization. There are going to be mistakes. The important thing is being able to challenge the rating. Most of these content filtering products have URL category lookup and you can report sites that need further review.

    McAfee http://www.trustedsource.org/en/feedback/url
    BlueCoat http://sitereview.bluecoat.com/sitereview.jsp

    The rest are easily found via google or from their respective support sites.

  7. Goatse for work by Meeni · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I understand we want to protect the pure eyes of the public from disgusting content. Well, actually I don't, if nobody gets harmed in the making of the images, to each one is fantasy. Furthermore, it is not like bestiality is around every click, and seeing a nipple is not going to traumatize anybody, we all have two, don't we ? For the sake of the argument, say we buy the idea that internet 'needs' to be filtered to protect the public from seeing "things". Doesn't it defeats the purpose, when little Johny is protected from porn from 1 to 18, then gets to watch objectively offensive and disgusting porn, the kind of things that makes you despair about humanity, but for 20 hours a week, as a student job to pay tuition ? Am I the only one to think that the work-watchers are going to increase by a wide margin the exposure to insanely offensive material, that otherwise nobody encounters without actually looking for it ?

  8. Re:It's simple by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they're using a feather, its erotica. If they're using a chicken, its porn.

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  9. Re:How is this censorship? by dark_requiem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exactly. I forget who said it, and I don't remember the exact wording, but I once read a very wise quote: "Evaluate any government proposal based not on the supposed benefit that will be imparted if administered properly, but by the harm inflicted if administered improperly."

    And besides that, we're talking about a system where one group of people are making decisions about "appropriateness" for a huge mass of people. The notion of what is "adult" or "inappropriate" content varies from individual to individual, as does the notion of "mental preparedness". As with any system of censorship or ratings, those who disagree are left by the wayside (see: "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" for an excellent example using the MPAA).