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Jobs Wanted To Destroy Android
hype7 writes "It's clear Steve Jobs didn't pull any punches from the interviews for his forthcoming biography. In the latest release from the book, hosted over at AP, 'Isaacson wrote that Jobs was livid in January 2010 when HTC introduced an Android phone that boasted many of the popular features of the iPhone. Apple sued, and Jobs told Isaacson in an expletive-laced rant that Google's actions amounted to "grand theft." ... "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this." ... In a subsequent meeting with Schmidt at a Palo Alto, Calif., cafe, Jobs told Schmidt that he wasn't interested in settling the lawsuit, the book says. "I don't want your money. If you offer me $5 billion, I won't want it. I've got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want." The meeting, Isaacson wrote, resolved nothing.'"
Odd coming from someone who stole the GUI and the mouse from Xerox.
Seeing as Apple steals most of the new iOS features directly from Android
I'm going to fucking kill Google. I've done it before and I will do it again.
-Steve...Jobs?
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As much as he wanted to destroy Android, it sounds like Steve Jobs became the guy on the telescreen in their 1984 commercial.
(Design) Purification Directive?
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It's my idea. Don't you dare to use MY idea. No, I don't care if somebody just came up with it. It was MY idea.
No, it's not your idea. It's everybody's idea.
Standing on the shoulders of giants - where there is room for everyone - people decided to knock everybody down to the ground who dares to scale them, because they think that only they are entitled to make use of the work of earlier generations.
The opposite of a developing country, is a stagnating country. And stagnation is what we are seeing.
Because multitouch was not at that point cheap enough to manufacture.
Apple had the manufacturing power to bring it down to a certain price (and they'd honed that on the iPod Touch). But even they couldn't bring it down to the kind of price normal people would pay.
Fortunately for Apple, they don't need to bring prices down to "normal people" levels -- they have a following of wealthy aficionados who will pay premium prices.
Isn't the free market a bitch sometimes.
Mod this UP-- what was REALLY stolen? Look, I'm not out to rain on apple fan's picnics. It's just that people are acting like the iPhone was this big revolutionary tech item when really it was just another device with a big difference: it was polished as hell, marketed well, and easy to develop for.
and to some he was like a devil.
In reality he was just successful. But then this is more than most slashdotters will ever be.
Come on guys, if you don't like fanbois don't turn into anti-fanbois. It's just the other side of the same coin. Quasi-religious hate and spite is in no way different than quasi-religious fanboidom. It's irrational, emotional and makes you look incredibly silly.
That he was; its OK for Apple/Jobs to steal ideas from others but oohhhh boy, watch out if others tried to steal his.
My karma is not a Chameleon.
The ONLY thing Apple has ever done is push the trend towards good graphics. They didn't invent anything, just showed that it could be done well, and that people liked it. the Mac did this, producing a mass-market GUI with reasonably consistent UI rules. the Next basically pushed the resolution and depth of the display, demonstrating the advantage of both. the iPod/iPhone showed that even small displays could use the same basic metaphors with touch.
None of these took place in a vacuum; all of them were extrapolations of work others had done. part of Job's big sell is to convince Appleheads that they were the chosen people, that they had just just a superior product, but a product in a unique category.
Of course Jobs wanted to kill Android - its existence violates the ridiculous marketing mystique he spent billions to create. It's a religious war.
It's also totally immoral. There's simply no way to defend one company saying "no, you must not create good products". And since nothing Apple created came from nowhere, there is no legal basis for claiming some kind of IP monopoly (patent, copyright, trademark, designmark).
Jobs was the Pope of the Church of Apple, and he must have been just as frustrated as Catholic popes were during the reformation.
"Good artists borrow; great artists steal." -Steve Jobs
Android might have "ripped [them] off wholesale," but the truth is that Android delivers a great smartphone OS to everyone instead of everyone that can save enough for an iPhone with its special data/voice plan. Did they really expect OEMs to do like RIM and just sit there while Apple designs and builds awesome hardware from the same factories they use?
Plus, Apple's products are amazing until you start "thinking different." Then you run into HUGE walls. Example: In Android, I can install an application that controls battery usage by controlling all interfaces on the phone. This seems to be impossible on the iPhone, which is bad because there are days when it will use most of the battery in less than half a day and others in about two days. Another example is adding a Windows print queue on OS X, though this might have been made easier with Lion. I'm not sure.
His frustrations are thinly warranted, though I do agree that most of Google's products are either crappy or great for two months after release. It would be great if they made APIs along with their products, but I suppose that's not the Google way.
It's not about money it's about ego. Steve heard over and over how innovative he was how great he was how much better he was then everyone else and he started to believe it. So when the competition started implementing some of the ideas he implemented he viewed it as an affront to his greatness. He saw the strength of android and feared it, he probably sees android doing to the iphone what windows did to the mac, ironically enough by using many of apples innovations. That is why he wanted to destroy android he has been down this road before and is afraid of losing his greatness.
Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
Trouble yourself to understand why this is. If you don't have proprietary lock-in/ownership of killer app, all you have to trade on is the quality of your manufacturing work.
That is what fashion labels offer. My wife likes to buy and sell these designer purses online. Fake ones are looked on very differently, because the quality of manufacture just isn't the same.
If software companies were banking on the quality of their finished product rather than the patented features of their sloppy-ass third-rate implementation of protected intellectual property, don't you think the IT industry would have a much better reputation? As it is people find computers relentlessly buggy and difficult to use, EVEN THE DAMN IPHONE. Maybe if quality was the #1 job, instead of 'safely-protected revenue stream,' our nation's economy wouldn't be such a horrorshow, either.
After all, for the last 20 years at least, it seems that American businesses value being first (and alone) in line to capture a revenue stream, rather than being the best product on the market.
It's no wonder our economy sucks.
One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / the next it's rolling over me / I can get back on / I can get back on
I'm sorry he's dead but I'm not sorry he's gone.
overpriced Apple smart-phones, tablets and MP3 players
I think the other phone, tablet & MP3 manufacturers would disagree with this. They don't seem to be able to compete on price without a subsidy.
There are two types of people in the world: Those who crave closure
I understand this is an authorized biography, so I'm sure Steve Jobs knew at least what it contained. Maybe he didn't care because he knew he was dying.
But I definitely understand his perspective that he could beat the cancer. Imagine his ego (and I really am trying not to sound insulting), but this is a man with his own distortion field who was very successful in his chosen field. I've heard similar stories about NFL players; because of the all the work and strong sense of self importance must have to be so dedicated to compete at the highest level, to a degree you think you're invincible. "That career ending injury was terrible for that other guy; but that couldn't happen to me."
A man that believed he could put a dent in the universe probably believed he could beat cancer on his own. I know if I get cancer I'm doing exactly what the doctor tells me, but that's also probably why I'm not the head of a multi-billion dollar company either.
"I've asked [Jobs why he didn't get an operation then] and he said, "I didn't want my body to be opened...I didn't want to be violated in that way," Isaacson recalls. So he waited nine months, while his wife and others urged him to do it, before getting the operation, reveals Isaacson. Asked by Kroft how such an intelligent man could make such a seemingly stupid decision, Isaacson replies, "I think that he kind of felt that if you ignore something, if you don't want something to exist, you can have magical thinking...we talked about this a lot," he tells Kroft. "He wanted to talk about it, how he regretted it....I think he felt he should have been operated on sooner."
Which means that the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field ultimately claimed the life of it's creator.
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Steve Jobs is just a big narcissistic, hypocrite asshole. After having stolen everyone else's ideas to make his iPhone, he actually had the nerve to complain that people stole his ideas (if they even were his ideas, he probably believed they were)? Im sorry, but the more I learn about this guy the more I think he was just a user and a twat, and doesn't deserve his fame.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
>This cancer is not "perfectly treatable".
Except this particular cancer was relatively easily treatable with surgery.
>And Jobs seemed to have waited with surgery only until it was clear that the tumour wouldn't shrink.
How was it going to shrink exactly? The homeopathic bullshit he was engaged in wasn't going to do anything anyway. He signed his own death warrant.
>But yes, maybe he would have lived longer if he hadn't waited. Maybe not.
All facts point to yes, he would have. Oh well, that's his decision. I can't stop people from killing themselves, but we can at least use him as a cautionary tale for those who are entranced by woo medicine.
But they were usually modded down quickly by Apple fanboys. Bill Gates is often evil figure in computing but it was a blessing that EVERYONE else, including Steve Jobs, screwed up completely and we our home computers became machines based on cloned hardware and even cloned software. Or what do you think Apples response would have been to either Compaq or DrDos? Oh wait we KNOW. Clone a Mac and get sued. Luckily IBM was asleep at the wheel and Compaq cloned the IBM and we all bought IBM compatibles at a fraction of the price. And because they were clones, they weren't locked down and some drunk Fin wrote an OS and the rest is history and the future.
None of this would have happened if Apple had won the race. Or if IBM had won the race. Or commodore or any of the others. Don't be fooled by the "nice" image of Apple or the "open" base of OSX. That happened because they were to small. Want to see what PC's would have looked like if Apple had produced them? Buy an iPhone. Expensive option is the only option and totally closed down.
Real history doesn't have heroes. If we are lucky it is a tale of the lesser of two evils having the upperhand. In this case it was Bill Gates. Who won't be remembered as a great man but just as not as totally evil if the people he defeated had won. It is sorta like how the world is better of for America having dominated for the last half century. Oh, not because the Americans are so nice but the world would have been a lot worse under Nazi/Japanese/British/USSR rule.
But hey, the punters who want their shinies got to believe that their guru is a hero else they might have to ask themselves why very expensive phones with a gigantic profit margin can't be produced in America or at least without near slave labor. Dennis Ritchie? Richard Stallman? Not sexy enough, to difficult with him asking troublesome questions.
So, the fanboys turn Jobs into a man he never was and put their fingers in their ears whenever someone dares to ask why he is considered such a hero.
Cue mod down by a fanboy.
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