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A Decade of Apple Oddities

harrymcc writes "It's been exactly ten years since Steve Jobs stood on a stage at Apple and explained to a surprisingly small group of journalists that his company was going to make a music player and call it iPod. Technologizer's Benj Edwards celebrated the iPod's first decade by rounding up a dozen iPod-related oddities, including the iPod-powered tooth cleaner, an iPod mount for a semi-automatic sniper system, and the classic 1958 Dieter Rams Braun FM radio that may have helped inspire it all."

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  1. Why so much Apple crap here lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why has there been so much Apple crap here on Slashdot lately? I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a story when Apple does something of a technical nature that's notable, but most of these stories are totally irrelevant and very boring.

    There's nothing special about iPods. They're a digital music player, just like every other digital music player out there. People have modded them for many years now, and many of these same "hacks" were done using portable CD and tape players well before then. None of this is remotely interesting, even to those of us who enjoy such hacks.

    Can we please have some interesting content here for once? Something not having to do with Apple or American politics, perhaps? Maybe something involving science or math in some way, or maybe even engineering?

    1. Re:Why so much Apple crap here lately? by masternerdguy · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Because Apple has brainwashed everyone into believing that their particular flavor of UNIX running on some less-than-inspired devices is special.

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    2. Re:Why so much Apple crap here lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      "There's nothing special about iPods. They're a digital music player, just like every other digital music player out there..." ...except it's the single best selling line of personal music players of all time, having sold more units that all competitors combined.

    3. Re:Why so much Apple crap here lately? by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're right, in 2001, the iPod was extremely expensive, ugly and wouldn't work with anything other than a Mac. And as for the iPhone, it wasn't going up against Windows phones, it was going up against RIM's Blackberry, who knows what would have happened had RIM not been criminally incompetent.

    4. Re:Why so much Apple crap here lately? by msobkow · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree whole heartedly. Slashdot needs to stop shilling Apple.

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    5. Re:Why so much Apple crap here lately? by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All the articles are free advertising for Apple. The company doesn't care whether the readers and posters are for or against their products. Just so long as you talk about them and spread the name.

      Nor is it limited to SlashDot -- the article titles and summaries are broadcast to social media sites as well, pushing the Apple name into the public eye without comment.

      It's disgraceful.

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    6. Re:Why so much Apple crap here lately? by quacking+duck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not so. The iTunes Music Store didn't exist until a year and a half after the first iPod became available. It was also initially compatible only with Macs, which made up only about 5% of the market at the time, further limiting market penetration.

      IMHO the revolutionary part was the iPod combining a number of critical elements:
      - the smallest HDD (physically; by itself the 5GB drive was the price of an iPod)
      - Firewire for fast transfers and charging (cheaper players were agonizingly slow USB1, and required separate charging cable or bulky batteries)
      - the iTunes playlist sync, rather than manual file management (which some people still prefer to this day). So you didn't have to manage files in two locations (computer, and what you wanted on your player)
      - the scrollwheel interface that let you navigate through hundreds of titles efficiently, compared to arrow keys or typing songs to find them.

      Looking at the original /. discussion on it, it's especially hilarious to see a comment about how he didn't like HDD or even Flash-based mp3 players, because CD-mp3 players were cheaper and readily available. That line of thinking is what allowed Apple to steamroll over every other player at the time.

  2. Fuck apple. by migla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I understand that being in the eyeball-grabbing game, a site must post an avalanche of apple related stories especially around new or upcoming marketing drives, so I'll just state that I wish it wasn't so, that the site wasn't in the eyeball-grabbing game, but in the game of building a quality community. And I'll just leave a friendly reminder:

    Take heed! Apple is evil. They are out to lock you in and to destroy your freedom.

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    1. Re:Fuck apple. by MrHanky · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure they want to "sell" you things. That's why, when you already bought one of their products, they make sure you need to buy a new one now and then, through forced obsolescence. You think Siri is nifty? It's only a software update, and would work perfectly on your iPhone4 if Apple didn't want your money so bad. When you buy from Apple, you buy an expensive subscription to new hardware.

    2. Re:Fuck apple. by bonch · · Score: 3, Insightful

      avalanche of apple related stories

      What avalanche? A whopping two out of the last 20 stories have been about Apple--and one of them was really about an Android app mimicking an iPhone feature. The company that Slashdot posts most about is Google.

      Since Android came out, Slashdot has become a ridiculously over-the-top haven for emotional Apple-haters. This place has really jumped the shark.

  3. He's dead, can we move on? by newcastlejon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For myself, I could do without a constant stream of articles listing things he may or mat not have designed personally. If Apple release something new and interesting then by all means post it, but I think everyone here knows what an iPod is.

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  4. Re:And Slashdots Founder's Reivew fn the iPod by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The fact remains, however, that the iPod was lame and continued to be lame until it got wireless. And it didn't have much storage space. Also, it was DRM-laden back then, too.

    It remains the case that Apple's business plan floats along on a big fat gasbag of marketing hype. Mr. Jobs flirted with new-age cult crap in his youth, and learned how to do that stuff pretty effectively. To the degree, even, that True Believers will write this comment off as coming from a Hater.

    Apple's Macintosh, the basis of everything they have become, was founded on the principle that it was a 'hacker proof' machine. And yes, they meant 'hacker' in the old, good sense. It was hyped long and hard as a 'just use it, no screwdriver required, or even permitted' system.

    Many of us have said 'fuck that' for decades.

  5. When Apple stopped being a computer company. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's been exactly ten years since Steve Jobs stood on a stage at Apple and explained to a surprisingly small group of journalists that his company was going to make a music player and call it iPod.

    In 'B' school (yeah yeah, heard it all before) we had a Harvard test case about the PC industry which included Apple Computer, Inc. To make a long and boring story short, the test case basically left Apple for dead saying it had no chance competing in the PC industry because of the slim margins (they all do), small market share, etc ....I mentioned that Apple has other things going on and they'll keep kicking. The prof kicked in "as a computer maker, No.They should liquidate" But before I could finish my point - pointing out the iPod and the change in direction of the company - some fangirl kicked in about the wonders of Macs and blah blah blah blah ....

    I was trying to make a point that Apple was no longer a PC Computer maker and they were a personal device maker. And Apple Computer eventually changed their name to Apple, Inc.to reflect that change in direction.;

    I learned two things in my MBA cap class: I just wasted 2+ years on a shit degree. Apple fans can be such conformists.

  6. Stick your slides up your backside by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously 13 slides and zero good content even on the first page. I'm not clicking through that shit.

  7. iPods were NOT the first pocket MP3 players! by Aqualung812 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To say that they're a digital music player is backwards: the rest of the world would say digital music players are bad ipods

    I owned a Diamond Rio & Creative Nomad, 2 years before the iPod was ever sold. I enjoyed them more than the first iPod, and I still would take the music management software that I had to use for them over any version of iTunes.

    I say this as a iPhone owner. I don't hate Apple, but I hate the incorrect praise they get for inventing things they did not invent.

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    1. Re:iPods were NOT the first pocket MP3 players! by slimjim8094 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He didn't say they were the first pocket DMP. He's saying that people judge DMPs by the iPod. Much in the same way that handheld tablet devices are judged by the iPad, and smartphones are judged by the iPhone.

      This is, for better or worse, very hard to argue. Again, none of these were at all first. But let's think about what came before:

      - The iPod. Previous devices were bulky, slow, complex - well, Nomads. Existing DMPs had slow transfer rates and were complicated. I don't know a single non-nerd who had one. How have DMPs looked since the iPod's release?

      - The iPhone. Previous devices were bulky, slow, complex - well, WinPhones. They worked, but they sucked. Existing smartphones were really set up for mice, and I don't know a single non-business user who had one. How have smartphones looked since the iPhone's release?

      - The iPad. Previous devices were bulky, slow, complex - well, Tablet PCs. They worked, but they sucked. Existing tablets were just Windows laptops with a stylus and perhaps a note-taking program and handwriting recognition. I don't know a single non-nerd non-business person who had one. How have tablets looked since the iPad's release?

      I could say the same thing about the Macintosh and the LaserWriter. Nobody who has anything interesting to say has ever said that Apple did any of this first, but they might as well have since nobody had one before Apple came along and made them viable products. And they've been imitated on each one, to the point where you can't find a "classic" Tablet PC anywhere, or a "classic" WinMo smartphone, or a "classic" Nomad-esque device.

      And this is why Apple kicks everyone's ass. I know I've been wrong on every front - the iPhone (2G only?? No apps?) and the iPad (I already have a laptop and a phone) were huge successes despite my conviction that it was impossible. Apparently, most of these other companies are filled with people like me - and not the people who buy millions of these things because they fill a need.

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  8. Re:The difference is in the details by t2t10 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, the Ferrari is special: it's an overpriced, unreliable, impractical car for guys who feel inadequate. Kind of like Apple products.

  9. Re:The difference is in the details by Lost+Race · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a basic transportation appliance for moving a standard family unit with accessories and groceries from point A to point B, the Ferrari sucks ass. The Corolla provides 1000x the value for that purpose.

    For recreational driving, having fun, going fast, showing off, the Ferrari wins. Some people will never appreciate any of those things and struggle to rationalize why anyone would ever waste money on a sports car. Finding nothing in their own psychological inventory, they project feelings and motivations familiar to them, such as issues of "inadequacy", particularly sexual inadequacy. ("He has that fancy car to compensate for his small penis, ha ha!") Such projections reveal at best a lack of experience, perspective, and imagination; at worst a small-minded pettiness brought on by envy that someone else would have the means to waste so much money on such a frivolity.

  10. Re:The difference is in the details by syousef · · Score: 1, Insightful

    As a basic transportation appliance for moving a standard family unit with accessories and groceries from point A to point B, the Ferrari sucks ass. The Corolla provides 1000x the value for that purpose.

    For recreational driving, having fun, going fast, showing off, the Ferrari wins. Some people will never appreciate any of those things and struggle to rationalize why anyone would ever waste money on a sports car. Finding nothing in their own psychological inventory, they project feelings and motivations familiar to them, such as issues of "inadequacy", particularly sexual inadequacy. ("He has that fancy car to compensate for his small penis, ha ha!") Such projections reveal at best a lack of experience, perspective, and imagination; at worst a small-minded pettiness brought on by envy that someone else would have the means to waste so much money on such a frivolity.

    If I want to have "fun" driving, I go and play with dodgem cars or go-karts. I don't spend $100k on a toy car. In any case you can't have the sort of fun driving that you need a Ferrari for without either breaking the law or going to a race track.

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