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Dennis Ritchie Day
mikejuk writes "Today we celebrate Dennis Ritchie Day, an idea proposed by Tim O'Reilly. Ritchie, who died earlier this month, made contributions to computing that are so deeply woven into the fabric that they impact us all. We now have to remark on the elephant in the room. If Dennis Ritchie hadn't died just after Steve Jobs, there would probably have been no suggestion of a day to mark his achievements. We have to admit that it is largely a response to the perhaps over-reaction to Steve Jobs which highlighted the inequality in the public recognition of the people who really make their world work."
If we had days and events to recognize each and everyone who helped to make the world work, the world would not work.
i was thinking maybe a fund to help educate people would be a more fitting memorial ?
how about a free e/book ?
regards
John Jones
More people celebrate "Talk like a Pirate Day" than "Dennis Ritchie Day."
People like good salesmen not people that work in unknown office spaces, regardless of their contributions.
A public image is the luxury of those who don't have to labour, and so can afford to put their efforts into selling their ideas and themselves.
Dennis Ritchie was a giant within his tribe, RIP.
There have been many great physicists, artists, actors, authors, musicians, mathematicians, doctors, engineers, architects, statesmen, etc etc. If the calendar gets littered with memorial days for everyone it'll just be exhausting and pointless.
The book of K&R?
If Dennis Ritchie hadn't come along the world would still look the same
Happy dennis ritchie Day..
(The Geek's day)
My thoughts entirely.. Wouldn't be at where I am right now
Today we come to slashdot not to piss on the memory of appliance designer Steve Jobs but to celebrate a true computer scientist and engineer dmr.
He was not a boisterous man or one too proud and busy to assist various teenagers on the internet who now wish they'd archived those emails. He was able to admit his greatest works were flawed. And perhaps most importantly, the man could create excellent documentation.
To commemorate dmr is to commemorate ourselves as his ideas still hold sway. He lives on in the constantly modified code base. His DNA remaining as his direct additions are slowly dropped from the source while his patterns remain.
ALL HAIL ELDER GOD OF COMPUTING DMR, MAY HIS LANGUAGE AND OS LIVE ON UNTIL WE ADOPT SOMETHING BETTER
Am I missing something here that says we have to compare all these people on the merits of their accomplishments?
Steve Jobs did great things. Dennis Ritchie did great things as well. We can argue all day about who was "better" or "more influential", but what's the point? Why not just celebrate their lives to honor them, instead of to passive-aggressively piss off people who look up to someone else?
If you celebrate Dennis Ritchie, do it for his monumental contributions to computing. If you do it just because you think Steve Jobs got too much attention, you're doing a disservice to both of their memories.
It is a nice idea, I suppose... But why Oct 30? Is it just because his birthday (which is in September) is too far away, and we'll forget him by then?
When is John McCarthy day?
"...the inequality in the public recognition of the people who really make their world work."
You're joking, right?
When a surgeon saves the life of a loved one, no one EVER walks right past the doctor to make a phone call to thank the inventor of plastic, blended steels, or surgical procedures. I don't even have to wonder how many surgically-enhanced women walking around these days have EVER thought to thank the inventor of silicone, because the answer is likely zero.
And the same thing should be expected in damn near any other industry. Most of us probably owe our lives to some scientist or inventor, yet you've probably not even bothered to know who it is, much less give them any recognition, living or dead.
we recognize that someone else would have come up with their achievements, or possibly one better. Who cares. Give them your thanks and move on for crying out loud.
speaking of ejumication, isn't it AN education fund...?
How can it be a bad thing for Steve Jobs' death to have brought increased awareness of Dennis Ritchie's contributions? Assuming, that is, that there's ANY connection between the two. It doesn't have to be a competition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Hilleman The guy develops loads of vaccines include 8 of the 14 currently recommended. Some how they forgot to give the guy the Nobel prize in medicine. Seems like it's long overdue. (I mean he's got a couple of buildings with his name on them but nothing that would tell anybody that he probably saved the lives of tens to hundreds of millions of people.)
Did you know 80 to 90% of the moderators on slashdot wouldn't recognize a troll even if one dragged them under a bridge.
Wait, you're just now learning that life isn't fair and that people who (you feel) deserve recognition for their efforts rarely get it? Well, here’s a learning moment for you.
...and there's nothing wrong with that. The point to me wasn't so much about 'who was better or more influential', it was clearly about the fact that mass media was utterly swamped, to the point of nausea on my part anyway, with Jobs 'retrospectives' and commentaries. Celebrating that this other man who so recently passed was in many ways more influential on the 'guts' of IT, ostensibly what the readers on slashdot would care more about, is neither disrespectful to Jobs or out of place in any way.
If I had "discovered" lisp living under one rock in Chile I would have grabbed a second rock and crushed its little head with it. (Doing everybody a great big favor.)
It isn't just computer science that the world ignores. People still smoke, go on drinking binges, and smoke pot - all of which are very bad for you. But, for a number of reasons, medical research into the impact of the aforementioned's affects on human health go ignored or even denied. There's a paper (written by Case and Shiller in 2003 named "is there a bubble in the housing market?") where a pair of economists CLEARLY suspect irrational behavior in the residential real estate market. Back in 2003! But it wasn't convenient for society to hear that message, so they didn't.
Ultimately, people pay attention and homage to whatever or whoever they *think* is important.
PS: I don't reply to ACs.
I wish this had been more publicized. I just found out about this by reading this article. I would have preferred that there was more of a chance to do events locally today. A gathering in a pub, or a Linux fest celebrating his accomplishments.
As for the S.J. vs. D.M.R.:
Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Richard Stallman, Tim Berners Lee, Linus ..., and millions of others owe their lives to the work done
Torvolds,
by Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson, with the assistance of Brian
Kernighan. The IT World would be MUCH different, and definitely not as
technologically advanced as it is today, without their efforts.
They deserve much more recognition, awards and thanks from the entire
world than they will ever receive.
Rest in Peace Dennis! You and your work will never be forgotten! Thank you!
OK, a number of people contacted the Guardian before this, but however it happened they got the point and gave him a full page on the Saturday edition. I hope that goes some way to make up for Google having to help rescue Bletchley Park.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
What bothers me is every tech site that posts a Ritchie story can't seem to do so without also adding a paragraph about Steve Jobs. Even when they're complaining Jobs' passing stole Ritchie's thunder. Apparently the hypocrisy is lot on them. I wish the tech media could treat these men as two separate people and stop mentioning them both in the same breath.
But K&R actually built something almost from the ground up using rather primitive tools, and today the children and bastard children of their ideas are running six machines in my house. (Possibly 7 if, as I suspect, the solar panel inverter supervisor is BSD based).
I entirely agree about Einstein, though. Physics is much more of a collaborative effort than the media like to pretend. The fact is that we could have developed all modern technology without the Theory of Relativity, using empirical rules. Quantum mechanics, however, is actually necessary for the furtherance of chemistry and modern materials (including things like IC substrates). But there is really no one father of quantum mechanics.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
"Dennis Ritchie Day = Fuck Steve Jobs Day"
Only if you're a necrophiliac. He's been dead for several weeks.
Is there a security patrol at the cemetery he's in? They might not like the idea.
This has just appeared: On Dennis Ritchie: A conversation with Brian Kernighan
"When is John McCarthy day?"
Most people aren't sure if he's the caricature with the hand up his butt from the 1950s or the congressman from the 1950s.
Oh wait. I repeat myself.
Seriously, though a number of the pioneers of computing are leaving us or soon will be.
He's just refactoring.
told Brian that the royalties from the book were only $700 and only gave him $350? No, we would call him an asshole, which is what he would have been if he had done that. But that wasn't him. Steve Jobs was an asshole given way more credit than he deserved. Look at this story, he is being given credit for recognizing Dennis Ritchie. WTF?
And speaking of phones, the software that runs the phone network is largely written in C.
Well, in the US.
Ericson stuff will be written in Erlang.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
C'mon... let's go another level and also declare a John McCarthy day!!!! He's even less known than dmr and was the inventor of LISP and AI !!! And he *also* died last week.
Why? Because mostly all the fathers of current computing entered their 70's / 80's at about 2000. It's life people, we must die. Let it go will you?
Indeed, many people forget that modern languages are still greatly affected by lisp. We're still trying to recover from that horrible misguided mess.
Lisp is a language for academic wanking. It brings nothing that other languages aren't doing way better. Not then, and certainly not now.
Completely and utterly off-topic, had the Germans not had Hitler, for instance, the German military might have found another front man to run the country. At some point they would probably have started a war of expansion to reclaim their losses of WW1. That might have been a "normal" war run by sane people. The outcome might have been very different for German Jews, but not much different for the French or the Poles. The world today might look rather similar, but with the EU much more obviously a German economic state.
However, but for Unix, computer systems might have stayed fragmented and proprietary. It's very hard to predict the outcome - personal computers might have stayed very limited systems, the Internet might never have started its enormous spread. The world banking system might have become far less computer-centric. It is entirely possible that K&R were simply extremely lucky, or simply very bright, and whether the results of their work were overall a good or a bad thing is, in my view, far too early to call.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
2day should be another SEVE JOBS day instead cuz he gave us all da ipodz!!!
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
I'm a research scientist and software engineer with a PhD, and I can clearly see that these accomplishments are amazing.
Additionally, I have made my living using Unix and programming languages derived from C, and for that, Dennis Ritchie deserves substantial acclaim.
Was the world better off due to C? If it had not existed then programmers may have simply used Pascal. The world would largely be the same, except we would have far fewer buffer overflows. ;-)
Here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1512306&cid=30785704
and here http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1885098&cid=34360492
* So - Not only are you an admitted "self-absorbed jerk", but you have a tendency to open your mouth & insert foot (as you did vs. myself regarding multithreaded coding, how it's done, with actual EXAMPLES I've written that still exist online in actual programs... which mind you? You have NONE to show for yourself, and yet you said I was just "talk"? LMAO!)
APK
P.S.=> I also agree that Steve Jobs was just a mass of rich man money "p.r.", he's FAR from an "inventor" that the presses seem to be trying to make he out as, posthumously. In fact, I respect Bill Gates FAR MORE, because he actually did do work in coding @ least, ala http://www.zdnet.com/blog/murphy/bill-gates-programmer/640 ...
Yes, because it was and STILL IS, guys like Steve Wozniak that actually DO create things for the better, & not just some "10,000 foot view idea outline" that any dimwit "visionary" (that makes me laugh that term, it honestly does) can merely state, but it's an entirely DIFFERENT THING, actually doing the work & details ("where the devils are"), to make them happen...
A trait you've already SHOWN you're not very good at demonstrating yourself (per the url links above) showing YOU ARE "ALL TALK", & no actual visible proofs of things you've done whatsoever, whereas when you confronted myself on that note?
LMAO - You had to "EAT YOUR WORDS, flavored with 'the bitter taste of your own defeat' you only brought on yourself, with your BIG mouth (lots of hot air/wind, but no proofs of having done what was discussed, multithreaded code, yourself, above)...
... apk
Jobs and Woz wouldn't be where they are without each other, nor would they be where they are without Ritchie (and a whole slew of other pioneers).
The Apple II's OS was written in assembly. The original 3rd party development environments were assembly and BASIC. The Macintosh's OS was written in Pascal. The original 3rd party development environment was Pascal. C and Unix were not really involved in Apple's *initial* success.
Steve Jobs impacted people who use stuff he helped create. He impacted people by technologies he helped support (Ed Catmull was real smart, and his subdivision surfaces and other 3d creations are vital to all 3d graphics, but it wouldn't have taken off if Jobs hadn't been annoyed by Catmull pestering him for money at a trade show, and Jobs promising to give him a few million to start up Pixar). But without Dennis Richie, Ed Catmull might not have created subdivision surfaces, there would be no opportunity to build Pixar, there would likely be no internet, no Microsoft, no Oracle, none of the silicon valley startups, and likely no smartphones. What Dennis Richie did was more like electricity or water, it was more fundamental.
C and UNIX were not comparable to anything that was being done anywhere else in the world at the time.
I fail to see how C was terribly different from Pascal, ALGOL and a host of other languages available back in the day. I've used C for decades, but if one of the other languages had become dominant I expect the world would be largely the same. A lot of early 3rd party Mac programming was done in Pascal, Mac OS itself was written in Pascal. A lot of early 3rd party and hobbyist PC programming was done in Pascal. I think Borland's Delphi demonstrates a more modern Pascal dialect that works well for large scale modern applications.
Perhaps a correction is in order, if C had not existed the world would largely be the same, except perhaps we would have far few buffer overflow concerns.
If you want to talk about languages that were truly different then you need to discuss LISP, APL, etc.
It's a big world, big whoop.
One day something set me off, and I was wondering how the name "cron" was chosen. Wikipedia credited Brian Kernighan with creating cron, so I took a chance and emailed him. He responded and said he thought it was derived from chronos.. but that he didn't write it and didn't know why Wikipedia credited him. He said it was probably Ken (Thompson), Dennis, or Bob Morris.
So I emailed Ken and Dennis at what email addresses I could find for them, I couldn't find Bob's email.
Dennis emailed me back and said that Steve Johnson was the author of the Unix cron, and that he thought the name had to do with chronology. Ken emailed me back and said he thought he wrote it, and that the name had to do with time.
I was really surprised these guys emailed me back about something so trivial, but I was still pretty excited about getting responses. The answers weren't completely definitive, but interesting none the less. Something that we use every day, and nobody seems to be quite sure who wrote it.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
When he was confronted on it -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1512306&cid=30785704
and here too -> http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1885098&cid=34360492
So, so much for THIS, from you (and, BitzTream? We know it's you replying as AC to me too):
"I have personally seen many works by BitZtream and can say he is one of the few has made a major impact of how every day millions of people view the world. He is a genius of our age." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, @05:53PM (#37888334)
* Pretty "tall words" for a guy that ran from producing the proofs for the basis of that in the links I posted above, quite a while ago too... lol! In other words? BitzTream: You're right - You ARE way, Way, WAY too FULL OF YOURSELF, and full of it... period.
APK
P.S.=> As to THIS from you (BitzTream, we KNOW it's you I am replying to, as you replied AC instead of using your "registered 'luser'" account here):
"What have you done?" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, @05:53PM (#37888334)
Oh, I posted a couple of my favorites here in another reply. To wit/e.g.:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37888612
Now, once more: I could ask the SAME OF YOU, BitzTream... but then again, I have before, & you had ZERO TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF!
... apk
In other words, the internet has a guilty conscience for expressing such a sad display of blubbering over Jobs, a man who was well known to be a world-class selfish asshole regardless of any accomplishments under his belt.
I think it's disrespectful that suddenly so many people are showing such mock interest in a man who they normally wouldn't give a shit about. What a ridiculous society we live in, that they use a man's death to justify prior overreactions.
If every important technology figure who dies from this point forward doesn't get the same respectable coverage that Dennis Ritchie has, then they only further disrespect him by proving my point.
Don't forget Doris Day.
just come to slashdot - everyday is steve jobs day.
They think engineers like Steve Wozniak and Dennis Ritchie are more influential than the designers like Steve Jobs.
Woz hasn't done shit since 1978. His last achievement was Apple II, and then not all of it. The Macintosh was Steve's baby in all but the name (Jef Raskin contributed the name). Apple was Steve's baby in all _including_ the name (it was named after the farm commune he went to in his early 20's). That's not to say Woz was not important early on, but he hasn't done shit for the company for the past 30+ years aside from getting in line and buying products.
I showed a small fraction of mine from commercial software, tech trade shows, freeware/shareware (& there are many more) & books, magazines (there's newspapers articles too, but I'd have to hunt them ALL down, not fun) - so for all your "talk"?
* Where's what you've done, EVER, that was noted as any good by anyone else??
(Without the above to your credit, & better + earlier than I did it, & as over as long a timeframe? Please... make us laugh some more, Mr. "Armchair QB", lol...)
APK
P.S.=> See subject-line above: I don't see too many "anonymous cowards" software programs out there, lol... & thus, "here endeth the lesson" (your replies will be further evasions of the question in my subject-line above, & more illogical adhominem attack off topic b.s. I predict)...
... apk
Praise for Dennis Ritchie += 1
He once inserted random mutations into his code, just so he could have the experience of debugging.
I am so excited that members of the community finally came out and publically supported this figure whom we have all admired for so long. I can't think of another individual who has inspired so many members of the tech community to feel better about themselves - if only for a few virtual minutes - in our times of loneliness and isolation. Many of us as young men spent hours on the internet when there was even the hint of some unreleased file, image, or video. I know that I personally would never have bothered to learn how to configure a firewall if it wasn't for my being so inspired to get that torrent of Wild Things... And though we may have publically mocked her as a nuclear physicist in that Bond movie , we all secretly know exactly what "Christmas" present we wanted to see unwrapped...
What? Dennis?
oh... nevermind...
Jobs is old news, and no-one has though of a Steve day. As much as Dennis Ritchie has contributed to UNIX and C, I can't see any reason why he should have an official day for him. In the end we all die.
There was an unknown error in the submission.
"We now have to remark on the elephant in the room. If Dennis Ritchie hadn't died just after Steve Jobs, there would probably have been no suggestion of a day to mark his achievements."
1) I didn't know that there was a 'Steve Jobs' day. I predict it will be rapidly forgotten.
2) Yes, a Dennis Ritchie day is more appropriate. Same as when Ronald Knuth were to die.
Religion is what happens when nature strikes and groupthink goes wrong.
that may as well have been a minion for all he did to get this technology in to the hands of the people. It's Amazon, Apple, and E-bay that empowered the people. There are scenarios (where Steve Jobs wasn't on the scene for example) whereby nobody would have heard about this guy or Unix, except an inner elite, that nobody really likes or cares about anyway...
You haven't done anything, ever, @ all/whatsoever, & you see fit to give others guff who have? Please - people call others like you, this term: "Armchair Quarterback"...
"So you haven't actually done anything in 10 years" - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:06AM (#37892290)
First of all - Check the dates of some of what I put up... you don't read very well, do you? They're more recent than that... far more recent.
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"The only programs you have for show are some little freeware utilities that do exactly one thing." - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:06AM (#37892290)
Try 40-50 different things, & over 40 of them over time online... Plus, I haven't even shown you them all, only a tiny partial list of some "favs" of mine.
I've also done 30 "enterprise class" information systems, apps that help doctors diagnose eye conditions, & far more professionally as a coder too circa 1995-presently.
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"Writing such programs isn't especially hard or time-taking. I bet I did more complicated projects when I was 10 years old." - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:06AM (#37892290)
Ok, big talker - Again: Where are your programs you claim to have written then??
1.) Did they make books, magazines, newspapers??
2.) Did they make top rated technical trade show contests???
3.) Did they end up as commercially sold code????
(Mine have done "all of the above", & more than once... & that's only the stuff I have put out above, I have more...)
* Like I said before earlier & I know definitely wager I am correct on - I did all that (doubtless before you were out of diapers!)
APK
P.S.=> As far as my "not knowing anything about modern operating systems"?
"and know nothing about modern operating systems? How nice of you. " - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:06AM (#37892290)
I think you'd better look @ this (how to secure modern Windows NT-based Operating Systems - I've been doing THAT type of thing, since 1997 to present as well online, & it works (& is rated very, Very, VERY HIGHLY nearly everyplace online it is):
http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&btnG=Search
I wrote that, & it's bar-none, the best of its kind (regarding "modern operating systems").
It's used to "immunize" a Windows system, I effectively use the principles in "layered security" possibles!
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&form=QBRE
Bing shows the same as GOOGLE does, & I get the "top spots" in both search engines (without trying to "SEO" it either as many others do).
I.E./E.G.-> I have done so since 1997-1998 with the most viewed, highly rated guide online for Windows security there really is which came from the fact I also created the 1st guide for securing Windows, highly rated @ NEOWIN (as far back as 1998-2001) here:
http://www.neowin.net/news/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text
& from as far back as 1997 -> http://web.archive.org/web/20020205091023/www.ntcompatible.com/article1.shtml which Neowin above picked up on & rated very highly.
That has evolved more currently, into the MOST viewed & highly rated one there is for years now since 2008 online
The day should be a memorial to the millions of man years and thousands of lives lost to pointer errors and uncaught arithmetic errors due to the fact that the C language provides no facilities for helping in their prevention.
64k? You had 64k? When the price fell on SRAM we built a 32k expansion board for our TI9900 based industrial computers and we thought Christmas had arrived already. That was the first multitasking kernel I ever worked on. I still have to remind myself that just one of those controlled an automated test and measurement plant that literally caused engineers to stand open-mouthed and then ask "how did you do that?". Nowadays, we would use a network of controllers to handle that job. Something did go a bit wrong, somewhere.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
FIRST - I don't use 127.0.0.1, first of all (you're WRONG):
"And yet in your stupid hosts file stuff you use 127.0.0.1" - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:58AM (#37892484)
See the above, lol... you're WRONG (I use 0, or 0.0.0.0).
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"and flood your local HTTP daemon and other ports with useless requests that need to time out EVERY FUCKING TIME, SLOWING DOWN BROWSER AND WHOLE SYSTEM as more threads need do be created and applications need to wait for the time out." - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:58AM (#37892484)
SECOND - YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN, & I'll even have Mr. Oliver Day of SECURITYFOCUS.COM back me on it, as far as what HOSTS files do for websurfers:
A RETURN TO THE KILLFILE:
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491
Some "PERTINENT QUOTES/EXCERPTS" to back up my points with (for starters):
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"The host file on my day-to-day laptop is now over 16,000 lines long. Accessing the Internet -- particularly browsing the Web -- is actually faster now."
Speed, and security, is the gain... others like Mr. Day note it as well!
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Per my points exactly, no less... & guess who was posting about HOSTS files a 14++ yrs. or more back & Mr. Day was reading & now using? Yours truly (& this is one of the later ones, from 2001 http://www.furtherleft.net/computer.htm (but the example HOSTS file with my initials in it is FAR older, circa 1998 or so) or thereabouts, and referred to later by a pal of mine who moderates NTCompatible.com (where I posted on HOSTS for YEARS (1997 onwards)) -> http://www.ntcompatible.com/thread28597-1.html !
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"Maybe you're too stupid to see why this i a problem." - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:58AM (#37892484)
Ahem/THIRD: See above... lol, & perhaps YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO KNOW THAT TURNING OFF THE LOCAL DNS CLIENTSIDE CACHE SERVICE IN WINDOWS (for large HOSTS files only) WHICH STOPS ANY SLOWDOWNS, & also saves CPU/RAM, & other forms of I/O associated with that unnecessary service running (not the http daemon as you stated by the by also)..
(AND, because the HOSTS file is just a FILE, like any other? IT GETS CACHED BY LOCAL KERNELMODE DISKCACHE SUBSYSTEMS, for speed of access/re-access)
Please, I am going to tell you what you TRIED to tell me & where wrong about: LEARN YOUR MODERN OPERATING SYSTEMS BOY AND HOW THEY WORK!
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"but that wouldn't surprise me BECAUSE YOU'RE A NOOB AND JUST GOT SERVED!" - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:58AM (#37892484)
No, I don't just *THINK* this, I truly now KNOW this: You're the noob that just got served, & for opening your BIG MOUTH & INSERTING YOUR OWN FOOT INTO IT.
* How's it taste? The bitter "taste of defeat"?? Absolutely... see the above!
APK
P.S.=> This? Ah, I just GOTTA SAY IT, as-per-my-usual with noobs like yourself: This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'"...
Now I KNOW why you "talk a big game" but have zero to show for yourself in freeware/shareware, commercial softwares code, or your work being featured in any publications of note in the computer sciences arena (as I have to them all), lol, per the above... BOTTOM-LINE HERE IS "know your role boy", and you just smoked yourself... badly!
... apk
Is that all you've got now, along w/ egg on UR face? That's always what your type is left w/, especially after your BLATANT SCREWUPS HERE (lol, huge ones) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37894894
(Your calling ME that, noob, earlier? LMAO - Please... you got fried by your own blatant stupidity, especially after YOU tried to tell ME "know your modern operating systems", lol...)
Apparently so.
Like I stated in my 1st post, I knew this would be all "your kind" has in the end (wannabes & armchair QB's in the art & science of computing)... Where you showed us ALL here reading, just who the "noob" is (you).
Same, same, same "last resort of the defeated trolls of /.", illogical adhominem attacks, & not even the GRACE to accept defeat you only brought on yourself, due to your lack of TECHNICAL ACUMEN in computing.
Your reward's looking foolish, especially after trying to "take me on", & failing, & tossing names etc./et al, after your massive screwup on how HOSTS files work now too!
(Not only you shooting your mouth off calling me noob & saying writing wares is trivial etc. but you have NONE YOURSELF TO SHOW, & certainly none others noted as good either in publications in this field of computing, either - lots of talk, no action, that's you!)
* Heh... always the same, lmao - SEE MY SUBJECT-LINE ABOVE, & thank you for also proving my initial posts' "p.s." correct in its predictions as have others here as well... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Ahem - Now that the NOOB hakahaka has been burned by his own big mouth, & utter ignorance of how HOSTS files work (as well as saying he has done wares but can't produce evidence of it, & certainly none that were noted by others in respected publications, commercial software, etc. either on his part)?
Well... All I can say, as-per-my-usual, is this:
This> This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'"
... apk
You evade that constantly anyhow when ur asked: I already have, on many grounds (including commercially sold highly esteemed work for "enterprise class" systems that are millions of lines in length Client-Server design systems, & others for a Certified Microsoft Partner no less), & I've worked in the Fortune 100-500 many times (Lockheed Martin, Goulds Pumps, & others for example), doing MIS/IS/IT database information systems work (for "steady-eddy" bread-N-butter - shareware/freeware was just "sharpening the sword" on the side, learning more).
"I am a professional software author" - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @01:26PM (#37897132)
As I am, for over 17++ yrs. now no less, & one who's received a decent amount of acclaim for it no less here... how about you? Oh, we already KNOW you have ZERO ON THAT ACCOUNT, lol... your evasions prove that much for us, easily.
* So, prove what you said... no, you'll evade it once again, & you certainly couldn't show you've done MORE than I have, EARLIER, & TO BETTER ACCLAIM IN RESPECTED PUBLICATIONS as I had many times, all while YOU WERE STILL IN DIAPERS... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Now, if THIS makes me a "zero"? Then you are certainly LESS THAN ZERO, lol:
"All you have developed is some little crappy programs and go on and on about hosts file like it's some new miracle." - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @01:26PM (#37897132)
I never called it a miracle.
I only produced MULTIPLE PROOFS (you know - the thing you're "not big on" to back up your big talk but no action on your end, lol), & how it works for better speed, & online security...
In fact - Let's use Mr. Oliver Day of SECURITYFOCUS.COM on that account again, shall we?
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SLASHDOT USERS EXPERIENCING SUCCESS USING HOSTS FILES QUOTED VERBATIM:
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"Ever since I've installed a host file (http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm) to redirect advertisers to my loopback, I haven't had any malware, spyware, or adware issues. I first started using the host file 5 years ago." - by TestedDoughnut (1324447) on Monday December 13, @12:18AM (#34532122)
"I also use the MVPS ad blocking hosts file." - by Rick17JJ (744063) on Wednesday January 19, @03:04PM (#34931482)
"I use ad-Block and a hostfile" - by Ol Olsoc (1175323) on Tuesday March 01, @10:11AM (#35346902)
"^^ One of the many reasons why I like the user-friendliness of the /etc/hosts file." - by lennier1 (264730) on Saturday March 05, @09:26PM (#35393448)
"I use a custom /etc/hosts to block ads... my file gets parsed basically instantly ... So basically, for any modern computer, it has zero visible impact. And even if it took, say, a second to parse, that would be more than offset by the MANY seconds saved by not downloading and rendering ads. I have noticed NO ill effects from running a custom /etc/hosts file for the last several years. And as a matter of fact I DO run http servers on my computers and I've never had an /etc/hosts-related problem... it FUCKING WORKS and makes my life better overall." - by sootman (158191) on Monday July 13 2009, @11:47AM (#28677363) Homepage Journal
"I do use Hosts, for a couple fake domains I use." - by icebraining (1313345) on Saturday December 11, @09:34AM (#34523012) Homepage
"They've been on my HOSTS block for years" - by ScottCooperDotNet (929575) on Thursday August 05 2010, @01:52AM (#33147212)
"Better than an ad blocker, imo. Hosts file entries: http://www.mvps.or
I can't show my projects to you because they are classified information. Unlike your little freeware programs.
See subject line above, & these "fine showings" of yours (lol, not)... Man - you CANNOT pay for this kind of entertainment!
* 3 "classic examples" thereof:
hakuhaku said I needed to learn more on "modern operating systems" & YET HE BLEW IT ON HOSTS FILES:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37894894
hakuhaku said he's a professional coder, but when asked for proof of it? LMAO - EVASIONS ON HIS PART ONLY, nothing to "back up his big mouth writing checks his mouth cannot ca$h (the troll tactic of last resort)!
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37892368
hakuhaku said he's a professional coder, AGAIN, but when asked for proof of it? LMAO - see the post I just replied to!
(Trollish evasions galore... off topic no less, as seems to be his trollish usual!)
APK
P.S.=> Give up kid - You're way, Way, WAY OUTTA YOUR LEAGUE, bigtime... especially per your "fine examples" above, lol... apk
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37897918
APK
P.S.=> Get over your geek angst: You only did the above, to yourself... nobody else - & if you're going to "talk a good game", then @ least be able to BACK IT UP WITH PROOFS & CORRECT COMPUTER SCIENCES BASED INFORMATION @ least!
(Like your blunder on HOSTS files especially shows you cannot do, yet you told myself "to learn more on modern operating systems"? Please - speak for yourself!)
Yes, you certainly "did yourself in" in the link above, & the posts of yours it led to (that I dismantled point-by-point, easily!)
... apk
Where I was also a lettering athlete/1st string starter (as a freshman no less) &, for a many time NCAA Division II national and league champion in the sport of Lacrosse:
http://lemoynedolphins.com/sports/mlax/history/mlaxletterwinners
* See letter "K", 1985...
(That's for the 1st of 2 degrees (B.S.) around the computer sciences (MIS minor) & CSC A.A.S. was earned in another school later on (I do schooling periodically still even, because of keeping skills "updated" with new tools/techniques, etc.-et al)).
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-line here though, is this: No matter WHERE I went to school? I still can show that I did more & better than you can in the computer sciences arena, period!
(& earlier too, + longer duration)
All of good note on my part in respected publications, tech trade shows, & commercial software code credit to my name (along with open source, freeware & shareware too) than you do... plus your utter fails here:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37897918
You had NONE of the above, & evaded proofs of it when you were asked for them as well... which of course, makes you look even futher the "big talking armchair QB" on your part, & an evasive troll also.
Like I said earlier to you: "Cut your losses, give up while you are behind" essentially... lol, because your "fine showings" in the url link above? LMAO, priceless...
... apk
Wasn't he the Irish Tenor on the Jack Ritchie Benny show?
About your "fine showing" (lol, 'NOT') here http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37894894 after you said THIS to me especially:
"So you haven't actually done anything in 10 years and know nothing about modern operating systems?" - by hakahaka (2485890) on Monday October 31, @04:06AM (#37892290) http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37892290
Funniest part is? Well, ok, enumerated list time:
1.) Some of that only SMALL PARTIAL LIST of my "favs" (far from all I could put out here no less of decent note around the computer sciences arena) is from the last couple years
and
2.) About "modern operating systems"?? LOL, see the 1st link above... tell us another good joke, ok???
* As you can now see, others are commenting who are reading here, and your off topic b.s. isn't cutting it with them either... you only did this, to yourself.
APK
P.S.=> You opened your mouth & inserted your foot, all due to your wounded "geek pride", as others are noting here (which I find utterly hilarious @ this point)... apk
I thought THAT'd be rather obvious, lol, especially to you & that it's not very secure!
Heck - I've shown that the entire LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) insecure by comparison to MS' Toolsets for business & development... & the LAMP toolset's rather primitive & CRUDE by comparison to tools MS gives you, and it's certainly not as secure (in terms of unpatched vulnerabilities)) is how...
* Anyhow, I am actually sort of sorry to see how badly you did, after your having the NERVE to call me "noob" & say I don't understand "modern operating systems" etc./et al, in your off topic illogical adhominem attacks you directed my way here repeatedly...
I mean, lol... This "poor showing of yours" on HOSTS files did you in the worst though, no questions asked:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37894894
(Even moreso than your claiming to be a professional coder, & yet, you have NO PROOF of that either... Whereas by way of comparison, I have truckloads of that from a partial list only I put up (could have put out far, Far, FAR MORE too), & from commercial software, books/magazines of respectable note, MS TechEd 2000-2002 trade show results, & a professional client-server MIS/IS/IT databasing career to go with that too for 17++ yrs. now on my part & more)...
APK
P.S.=> On coding though? Hey - imo @ least: It's NOT about languages, syntax of them, programming IDE's, or anything along those lines as far as coding (imo @ least): It's more a "SYSTEM OF THOUGHT", knowing what needs to be done conceptually & architecturally (meaning you have to know the problem or sought after goal first, then stuff it's intended to run on, & then you can actually start coding in WHATEVER language on it, after all that)... apk
I'd rather use more sophisticated toolsets that have less unpatched security vulnerabilities is all. Yes, I know it can be used on other platforms + w/ other toolsets & such also, but... starting out with unpatched security vulnerabilities isn't a SMART way to start - put it THAT way, & imo @ least!
(The point you make though is why I like JAVA &/or Python so much lately, "multiplatform write once/run almost nearly anywhere", the "latest tools/languages" I've learned 2009 to present in fact).
APK
P.S.=> Man - This is going way, Way, WAY 'off topic' @ this point, so... I'll "bid you adieu" & say "brush up on how modern operating systems work" as a parting note -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2500566&cid=37894894 per your "fine showing" (lol, 'NOT') there on that very thing no less!
(Especially after you called me "noob", & said I didn't understand how modern OS' work)...
So - "better luck next time" (hopefully there won't BE one though)...
... apk