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Consumer Tech: an IT Nightmare

snydeq writes "Advice Line's Bob Lewis discusses the difficulties IT faces in embracing the kinds of consumer technologies business users are demanding they support. 'Let's assume the consumerization of IT is the big trend many think it is. But using consumer tech in a business environment is a very different matter from being satisfied with consumer tech in a business environment. One of IT's legitimate gripes is that we're often asked to turn consumer-grade technology into business-grade technology with a wave of our magic wands. On top of the intrinsic technical challenges, there's this: IT doesn't have anything that even resembles a methodology for performing the business analysis we need to figure out what it means to put consumer tech to productive day-to-day use.'"

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  1. This is nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we're often asked to turn consumer-grade technology into business-grade technology with a wave of our magic wands

    This is nothing new. We've been expected to do this with Microsoft Windows for nearly two decades now.

  2. Re:Very True by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, the $70 drive from Newegg is 7200 RPM, 2+TB, and has 64mb cache. The $300 drive from HP is 5400rpm, 320mb, and comes with a piece of paper saying it's 'certified' compatible with the server, and they'll replace it free when it dies 7-18 months from now (same as the $70 drive's equally short lifespan). What a bargain.

    Spending more for SLC vs MLC? sure. Ditto, for the network gear. But don't kid yourself... "enterprise" drives are no less failure-prone than their Best Buy Brethren. Nowadays, they're *all* crap. :-(

  3. I find there are two paths that emerge by nimbius · · Score: 5, Informative

    for the IT department here.
    1. lock it all down:
    ive worked for companies that insist IT is the gatekeeper for everything from remote controls to pagers and cellphones. While you get great control, you also have no time or resources to dedicate to projects and ostensibly everything with a wall wart becomes "your job." Powerusers view you as some sort of hitler-incarnate so you wont get help or input from them at all.

    2. trust your users:
    im working at a company that embraces google apps, that trusts its users in the cloud, that appreciates anything that frees up resources so that projects can be accomplished and new achievements in the organization can be made. the downside to this is your IT support is often branded as a group of do-nothings as IT can really only help people with approved technologies. IT guys find themselves in elevators and hallways, cornered by desperate users who swear the problem theyre having in the cloud is something your IT department works on. If the bitching gets loud enough, you may end up supporting it anyhow, and that subset of 8 systems your team used to directly assist users begins to look like 'infinity.' you really need strong management for this type of environment to work. ready and open paths for users who bite off more than they can chew to safely make their way back to known desktop technologies is also a big plus. You can in some cases leverage power users to evangelize people in certain directions or help out where possible. Wiki's work wonders.

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  4. Again... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, stop your whining and do your job.

    Don't go complaining to management when they want you to do something on the cheap. They're the job creators and you're nothing but a griping parasite. They could eat your job and shit it out in Bangalore before you can say "MSCE".

    If you don't like the way business is done then go stand with the filthy stinking hippies in Occupy Wall Street. Otherwise, when we say "jump" you say "Minimum wage is good enough for me".

    Who do you think you are, anyway? We're the motherfucking job creators Bucky, so you better check yourself and get back to your little hole and do some coding or sysadmin-ing or whatever it is you do. There's a reason I'm getting the big bucks and you're getting the increased co-pays and that reason is "I know what's what and you know jack shit."

    Now close the door on the way out. I'm glad we had this little talk. And if I hear that you even whispered the word "union" I'm going to put my size 11 cordovan brogue ($370 at Nordstroms) up your bony ass.

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  5. Re:Not many people want you to support consumer te by Volante3192 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    departments who see no middle ground between "100% supported" and "not on my network ever".

    Because there is no middle ground.
    If we help you out of the kindness of our hearts once, you will never. ever. let us forget that.

  6. Sorry but that right there is the problem by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want to run the thing, you want it to be yours, but you want someone to bail you out if you can't make it work. That is the nightmare IT scenario. That is the one that sucks tons of time from the group: When users want to run their own devices in their own way, but want IT to fix it when there's a problem.

    Now I should say such a situation would be feasible, but only if you are willing to hire a bunch more IT people. Have a large enough group and sure, you can have people to do all the hand holding as well as all the all the central functions expected (like making network and all the servers work, developing new custom apps, and so on). However in a typical IT environment where there are not many support people, hand holding takes time away from other tasks.

    Basically if you want to use your toys that's fine, but don't expect IT to want to waste time on them. They are your devices, you deal with them.

    In terms of the "not on my network" I don't usually support that idea but there are cases where it makes sense. Security is a concern with companies and if the management decides they want only approved devices on the network, well then that is what IT has to enforce. There are reasons for that too: User devices are the biggest source of problems easily. I work at a university and we do allow for personal laptops and other things on the network. 99.9% of the time when there's a virus or other issue, it is from one of them. Of course they bypass one of the layers of our security, our border firewall, since they come inside the network, which makes them a bit more dangerous.

    To me wanting IT to support your personal devices is the same as wanting the motor pool to work on your personal car. It just isn't reasonable. Your stuff is yours to do with as you wish, but don't expect corporate support to help you out. They have other things on their plate.

  7. Mod parent up! by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The GP has no idea what "support" means.

    I don't expect you do this for every crazy piece of hardware out there, but it would nice if you could be *helpful* as I try to figure it out myself.

    The PROBLEM is that every single person out there has the same attitude towards "support" that you do.

    With you it is your iPhone.
    With someone else it is something else.
    A third person has a third product.
    And pretty soon it is "every crazy piece of hardware" (and software and website and so forth).

    At a basic level, I expect my IT department to not *actively* disallow use of such technology, which is what I see all the time, departments who see no middle ground between "100% supported" and "not on my network ever".

    The problem is that if IT provides 50% support for X ... there will be calls from people wanting help with something that falls on the other 50% of X. Eventually it is 100% support.

    If you want that to change, then get a business case together and get management's approval and IT will get the additional funding / staffing / whatever to provide the support.

    Otherwise, deal with it. IT is there to support the management approved users on the management approved software with the management approved hardware.

  8. Re:Not many people want you to support consumer te by dissy · · Score: 5, Informative

    iPhones fully support exchange activesync, with remote wipe and everything.

    In the mail settings, you add an account, and tap the first mail type in the list "Exchange"
    Feed it your email address, then password. Done.

    It uses the encrypted outlook web api (Same as the web app in a browser would over https) so works on the internal wifi as well as outside on 3G.

    Employees are warned about the remote wipe feature, both in the employee handbook and directly when I'm asked if they can get their mail on their phone.
    Users can even log in to web mail and perform the remote wipe and remote password reset features on their own, including from home, and most importantly whenever they need it.

    Otherwise it has been one of the more simple non-windows devices I've had to support on a windows network.
    I come from a Linux/Mac background as well, which doesn't translate the best to running a windows domain. I'm the reverse equivlant of the ditsy windows admin installing x11 and gnome on all the servers so he can remote admin them :P
    The less I have to do to dig deeper into the windows world, the better.

    Most android devices are basically as easy, but usually also ask for a username instead of extracting it from the email address for the first try.
    Only two people with android ever had mail problems, both solved by removing and re-adding the mail server entry.

    I'm just thankful the CEO is no longer using that blackberry... BES was hell!

  9. Re:Consumer Innovation by starfishsystems · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it began with businesses buying and managing Unix workstations for their staff.

    Where it started to fall apart was when businesses thought it would be cheaper to buy Microsoft systems instead. There was a little TCO problem there. Microsoft users were managing their own systems, and they were doing it badly. Not only was their actual job function was being diluted, it also created some truly monstrous infrastructure train wrecks. That problem still isn't solved. Businesses simply think it's normal.

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  10. Re:Apple has jumped the shark by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Informative

    > Wow, how much do you have to pay for an Android developer licenses to do the same thing? $100. Shocking.

    Try $0. Android owners don't have to play "Mother, May I?" with Apple and jump through hoops to run our own apps on our own phones. We can install our own .apk files anytime we feel like it. If you want to publish on Android Market, it's $25.

  11. Re:This is getting out of hand by McGruber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do IT support for a company of about 800-1000 people. All of our executives and corporate staff wanna use their goddammed iPads, iPhones, Androids, and other personal wotsits or doo-dads to do their work. Enough is a-freakin-nuff! We're a corporation and we need to maintain stability and compatibility over fancy and chic. You get a laptop. With Windows. And a BlackBerry... if you're lucky.

    Here's the deal: Those "goddammed iPads" and other "doo-dads" are stable and allow their users to be productive. The windows laptops and crapberries are neither stable nor do they allow the user to be as productive as do the personal "doo-dads".

    More and more of the decision-makers in your company are letting their Windows laptops sit unused while they turn out productive work using their personal "doo-dads". Many of those users whom you say are "lucky" enough to be issued a Crapberry are also carrying a personal iPhone or Android for their personal calls and other personal business; they're not happy about having to carry a Crapberry because their other phone is so much more useful.

    Eventually, one of those decision-makers is going to realize that their unused laptops cost your organization $5k each. They will then multiply that $5k cost per laptop by 800 to 1000 users, a lightbulb is going to go off in their head and you're going to be looking for another job.

  12. Re:This is getting out of hand by unimacs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    About 25 years ago, my boss, the IT manager, had the same attitude towards PCs. He referred to them as "toys". They lacked security. At the time you didn't even need to log into them. You had to upgrade and install software on them independently. Backing them up was problematic, etc. etc.

    Of course the mini-computers and terminals we all used at the time were eventually replaced with PCs.

    It's about productivity. It's about not depending on an IT department with a backlog of 2 years for every little thing. What we've done to the PC in the name of security and making life easier for IT is to make them part of a centrally controlled system just like the mini computers were 25 years ago.

    Want to use a great new piece of software? Is it on the approved list? No? Too bad.

    That is not how we should be doing things.

    I'm an IT director. Yes, you need security. Yes, centrally controlled admin is good. Being able to roll out tested software patches on mass is good. However, our role in IT is to FACILITATE, not to be a road block. That doesn't mean we have to say yes to everything but we need to understand why people want to use these devices for work and if there is a legitimate purpose, we need to figure out how to make it happen.

    Our job is to support our people, even if that makes our job harder.

  13. Today it is backwards by Xenious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Years ago the kit you used at work was faster, better and more powerful than your home consumer devices. Today it's the reverse and what you are forced to use at work is totally crappy next to what you have at home. Thus consumerization of IT is necessary to even get your own work done.

    Or to put it more simply, my companies OS is XP with Office 2003.

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  14. So this is why I have to use Good Mail by germansausage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here is what happens when IT meets consumer tech.

    My new iPhone has built in email contacts and calendar. I point it at our exchange server and give it my password and it "just works". "Well holy shit", says the IT dept, "that just won't do". "We can't have users looking after themselves" So they tell me I need to get "Good" mail. First I have to buy a license to use it, and then they dick around a week getting it to work. Now my email is "secure", because we just can't run the risk of the KGB finding out when I'm having lunch next Thursday, or how many meters of #6 cable we buried last week. How is this better you say? I'll tell you. Before Good, my phone would go ding, I would look at the screen and see "Meeting with Fred, 11:30, big boardroom". Now I get a ding, and my screen says "Event!" I unlock my phone, I open the Good app. I enter my Good password. I wait 30 seconds while things are decrypting. Finally the app opens fully. I push the button for calendar and see "Meeting with Fred, 11:30, big boardroom. The entire process now takes 45 seconds, where it used to take 0 seconds.

    The badge for unread emails used to tell me how many unread emails I had. Now with Good mail, it increments with every new mail received. Then if I read the email on the computer, it increments again. Yes, that's right. If I receive 5 mails and read them on my computer my phone now says I have 10 unread mails. (Apparently it is not our IT dept's fault that this "Good mail app" they have forced on me sucks so bad. It's all Apples fault, just ask our IT guys, they'll tell you.)