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Anonymous Hacks Finland

First time accepted submitter spuguli writes with more exploits of Anonymous. "From Helsingin Sanomat: 'A data leak was uncovered in Finland on Saturday, in which personal details ... of around 16,000 people were uploaded onto a file-sharing website.' Anonymous has claimed responsibility for the cracking of several databases."

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  1. Correction by ttong · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fins hack Finland. Nothing to see here, move along.

    1. Re:Correction by ttong · · Score: 2

      It happens (I've even done so myself when I was younger), but they're just using "Anonymous" to grab attention. Not to hide their tracks.

  2. The main story is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The National Bureau of Investigation published a slightly obfuscated list of the 16,000 victims, which brought down their website. They had 60,000 simultaneous connection attempts to the site. The question is how would the officials communicate with the public if it were a real national disaster.

    1. Re:The main story is... by nepka · · Score: 2

      If they had used Amazon or other good cloud hosting service, it would had scaled automatically. Cloud hosting does has good sides too.

  3. Geography by DaleCooper82 · · Score: 5, Funny

    How on Earth could they miss Mexico and end up in Finland instead?

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    1. Re:Geography by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I saw in google news that they called that off. Something about the Zetas being a bunch of vicious psychopaths who promised to murder 10 innocent people for every one of them exposed.

      Can we please either send in the military or end the idiotic drug prohibition, which has brought about a massive wave of organized crime (just like last time)?

    2. Re:Geography by sleigher · · Score: 2

      Just like last time? No! Way worse than last time. Yes the gangs in Chicago and New York were ruthless and all that, but they didn't leave heads on stakes to prove a point. The level of violence has exceeded prohibition by such a large amount that it is almost criminal for our government to either sit by and do nothing, or to continue prohibition. Especially when much of this is about pot for crying out loud. I mean really? Let the people get stoned if they want. What the fuck is the problem? You let them get drunk!

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  4. Re:Kids by raedeon · · Score: 2

    Kids? I'm 26

  5. Anonymous Finland denies the hack by amazeofdeath · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Hello,
    This is Anonymous Finland messaging you once again (actually not, the earlier messages were not written nor released by us.)

    We have no opinions on any politicians all.
    We have not hacked any Finnish websites.
    We find antisec childish, among with lulzsec that was nothing but a bunch of bought exploits."

    http://pastebin.com/X98zQ4Ea

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    1. Re:Anonymous Finland denies the hack by nepka · · Score: 2, Informative

      Lol, what a circlejerk again. There's no "anonymous finland". Anyone can claim to be anonymous.

    2. Re:Anonymous Finland denies the hack by poity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You see, Anonymous and their supporters will accept the "Anyone can be Anonymous" position only when it's in their favor -- for example when law enforcement makes a public effort to arrest them, then no voice represents Anonymous, Anonymous is anyone. But when a hack occurs that's morally nebulous to a majority of people, out comes the ablative armor of a unified voice of denial.

      In a thread about suspected Anonymous members being arrested your post would be +5 Insightful. But here you get down modded because their supporters deem this information counter productive to their damage control efforts. They can't have it both ways and have reasonable people believe them.

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  6. Re:Kids by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Idle hands are the devil's tools." Other cultures have similar sayings. Basically, when people are not busy working (or learning), they find themselves more likely to cause mischief. Nothing new here.

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  7. Surprisingly sane newspaper website by Kidbro · · Score: 2

    The most astonishing thing with this story is the medium. This is the first time in quite a while I've seen an easy to read, easy to navigate web page (from a news organization) where the actual content gets the majority share of my screen real estate.
    It also was so quick to load that I couldn't really believe that it was done, and for a long while after it had finished I simply sat staring at the page wondering when the rest (the crap!) would arrive. It never did.

    Good job, Helsingin Sanomat.

  8. Re:It is probably a hoax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Finnish newspaper Iltalehti (in Finnish) is now reporting that the attempt by some members of Anonymous to claim the leak is a hoax. Actually, the person or group claiming responsibility did probably do neither of the leaks. The "new" leak was actually published already three weeks ago, and someone just copied that leak and tried to gain news coverage for his political ends.

  9. Re:Is this even a hack? Is this even a data leak? by Zironic · · Score: 2

    You can not legally give out a persons full social security number through the internet in the Nordic countries, so no.

  10. Re:Is this even a hack? Is this even a data leak? by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    no. the social security numbers are not public, neither are the addresses or phone numbers. and especially that they're on some db isn't public information.

    they're so widely spread though that they might just as well be. but they are NOT public. also the institutions which had assembled these lists broke the law by leaking them.

    you know whats the funny thing here? the fucking police spread the information and link to db..

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  11. Discuss their evildoing by qxcv · · Score: 2

    The person who did this uses the alias anomuumi. It is a generic term used when individuals who hang around at the Finnish message board forums discuss their evildoing.

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    1. Re:Discuss their evildoing by weicco · · Score: 2

      Yes, anonymous = nimetÃn. Anomuumi is not actually a word at all. It can be a mix of the word "anonymous" and "muumi" where "muumi" means Moomin but I'm not sure about this. Basically it's just common nickname which a lot of people use. In fact, I used it some years ago at Helsingin Sanomat forum but I'm not the Anomuumi in question here.

      And what comes to the incident, my knowledge is that Anonymous has already denied that they had anything to do with this.

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  12. You morons! You are playing right into their plot! by Gopal.V · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wrong forum to say this, but listen to me, all you call yourselves Anonymous!

    Forget about "V for Vendetta". Now, take a history lesson from someone who's not of the first world and grew up in a communist paradise.

    Guy Fawkes did British revolutionaries a complete disservice. First up, he was a religious nutjob who wanted to kill a king for religious intolerance. The end result of which was that finally the king had a real good & proper reason to hunt down the catholics. The ordinary catholics ended up in a long drawn struggle and bore most of the collateral damage out of the actions of an anarchistic commune. Those thirteen proved to be as bad for the catholics as the original.

    With the new "Guy Fawkes" vigilantes are similarly giving ammunition to the government to grab control of the internet, choke down every protest fair or otherwise. You assholes aren't fighting authority, you're just the reason giving their oppression legitimacy in the eyes of the people who don't want to be accidentally your targets for the lulz.

    And here's some advice from my dad, "If you really want to be a rebel, live for the rebellion, don't die for it". Now, if you want to be a martyr instead ... don't take me down with you.

  13. Leak, not a hack by Bostik · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Bit of background: Finland has pretty strict privacy laws, and compiling personal detail lists, such as this, is subject to regulation. Very few care about that. What really matters is that storing such lists has certain requirements - and disseminating them is explicitly unlawful.

    The leaked list is apparently a compilation of 10 (or more) smaller lists. Criminal Bureau are going after the person who compiled and published the list, and the morons who compiled the original lists will probably get off with less than a slap on their wrists.

    The original compilations have been passed around via mailing lists. I'll let that sink in.

    [Puts on the cynic hat]
    What should be a wake-up call to enforce the collection and dissemination rules will be used to drum up the threat of Anonymous and increased possibility to get spammed. The real problem, namely the near-criminal negligence with which this type of data is handled, will be ignored.

    In a nutshell: someone who had access to multiple lists exposed a systematic indifference to privacy laws and the utter ignorance of decent practices. The leak itself will be vilified, while the practices which allowed this to happen with such trivial effort are unlikely to be addressed.

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  14. Re:Guess Anon by nepka · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, they did it to promote their own political agenda. Pastebin is here http://pastebin.com/ZGf00sJS

    At least before "Anonymous" hacked evil companies or countries. Now some idiot is just pushing his own political agenda.

  15. Re:Is this even a hack? Is this even a data leak? by nepka · · Score: 2

    you know whats the funny thing here? the fucking police spread the information and link to db..

    No they didn't. What they released only had first names and birth date so people can look up if they are possibly listed. It doesn't even contain anyone's last name.

  16. Re:You morons! You are playing right into their pl by psiclops · · Score: 2

    cool, that makes me feel better about being too lazy to stand up for anything. now i know that doing so would only make things worse.

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