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Banshee, Mono May Be Dropped From Ubuntu Default
itwbennett writes "The Banshee music application, and Mono, the open source implementation of Microsoft's .NET framework, on which Banshee is dependent, may be excluded from the next release of Ubuntu. In 'a blog entry titled Bansheegeddon,' Banshee and Mono developer Joseph Michael Shields says the reasons given for the change are that Banshee is 'not well maintained' and 'porting music store to GTK3 is blocked on banshee ported to GTK3.' Other reasons mentioned but not in the session logs are complaints that it doesn't work on ARM. Ubuntu Community Manager Jono Bacon pointed out in a blog post that the decision to drop Banshee, Mono or other apps that are dependent on Mono has not been finalized. But the blogosphere is lit up with speculation that this is a deliberate move to exclude Mono because of its emulation of Microsoft .NET."
A lot of people forget that when something is excluded from the default installation of Ubuntu, that doesn't mean that you can't install that feature later.
looks like ubuntu finally dropped off the #1 spot in the rankings on the right hand column
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sudo apt-get install banshee
Is it that fucking hard?
Clementine and Audacious are pretty good. Check them out.
You do realize that Mono does run on ARM? Heck, Xamarin makes its money primarily from running Mono on ARM systems (among other things, the iPhone/iPad). So, claiming that Mono is being disqualified because it doesn't run on ARM tablets doesn't really hold water.
the promise was made to Novell which licenced .NET. Anyone who dowloanded Mono from Novell would be protected (with the implication that anyone who got it non-Novell sources would not be protected, I don't know if that'd stand up in court, but it was used as an excuse against using Mono by various people)
Now Novell no longer exists, I'm not sure where the promise went, or the licencing agreement they had. Perhaps de Icaza's spin-off company has it, maybe Attachmate has it.
I've been using Clementine for awhile now. It's still a bit rough around the edges (no podcast support) but it looks and works just like the old Amarok 1.4 did. (I always hated Amarok2... I kept old KDElibs around just so I could run 1.4 as long as possible) I forget if Clementine is a complete rewrite or a port of 1.4 to Qt4 libs.
.NET, not when Qt is pretty good about cleaning up after itself at the QObject level. Sure, you may have to do some manual GC here and there, but its nowhere near as bad as vanilla C++ is.
Besides, who needs Mono when you can write cross-platform apps with Qt? Stuff like automatic garbage collection isn't enough to get me using
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That's the point. "Album Artist", which is different from "Artist", is always the same in every track of the album, so grouping works.
For example, in the Pulp Fiction soundtrack, each music has a different Artist, but the Album Artist in all of them is "Various Artists", so the tracks are kept together.
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It runs on ARM with caveats and bugs. In particular, apparently it only supports single-core ARM systems - if you try and use Mono on a dual-core ARM, it will crash because the code it generates is SMP-unsafe. It also sounds like it's incredibly buggy even without this problem.